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Russian Bear 5000 - Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:08 PM
Russian Bear 5000-Vanilla is a high calorie; zero fat; protein rich weight gaining powder providing 5000 calories and 292 grams protein per serving providing an anabolic formula for rapid weight gain without gaining fat.

what do u guys think??
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RE: Russian Bear 5000 - Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:13 AM
If it's true it looks awesome to me, I almost bought some.


The one thing that is confusing is its serving size... it's a 4lb jug and it says its one serving per bucket.  You have to mix it all in a gallon of milk?  That must mean it doesn't last very long.
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RE: Russian Bear 5000 - Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:54 AM
i ordered yesterday 2 tubs of russian bear on ebay, 19.89$$$$ hehe there are a lot of exelent reviews on http://www.nicemuscle.com/russian-bear-5000-powder-80353.htm
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RE: Russian Bear 5000 - Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:24 PM
when u get some let us know
 
im curious as how it taste
 
if its good im willing to try it thats a lot of protein though in thing
 
good luck with it
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RE: Russian Bear 5000 - Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:32 PM
its not 5000 protein,,,"Calories - 2600 - 5000"^, Protein - 184gm - 292gm^, Carbohydrates - 391gm

thatss the ****¡¡¡¡ im bulking so...size size
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RE: Russian Bear 5000 - Friday, February 24, 2006 1:33 PM
Let's see some reviews when you guys get about 2 weeks down the road
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RE: Russian Bear 5000 - Friday, February 24, 2006 3:14 PM
i read about it on vitaminshoppe.com sounds great how much did u pay for it?
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RE: Russian Bear 5000 - Friday, February 24, 2006 6:26 PM
i bought it on ebay and its very cheap...just 20 bucks...i ordered two...
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RE: Russian Bear 5000 - Saturday, February 25, 2006 8:24 AM
2 for 20??? THATS AWSOME
even if it doesn't work thats a great deal
 
even though 1 scoop is a gallon of milk
im gonna be running out of milk every day
that seems a little crazy
 
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RE: Russian Bear 5000 - Saturday, February 25, 2006 4:04 PM
no no, hehehe 2 for 40...20 each
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RE: Russian Bear 5000 - Saturday, February 25, 2006 4:47 PM
Wait.  One serving is a pound of product in a gallon of whole milk?  This is ridiculous.  The vitaminshoppe site nutrition info also doesn't give the total calories prepared with whole milk, as recommended.  Add 2336 calories.  So you're talking over 4000 calories of superficial, plastic food.  This is just playing with numbers.  A gallon of Muscle Milk, prepared with water, is 5600 calories; make it with whole milk, and you got 7900+ calories/gallon.

Smells like marketing to me.  Stick with real food, use supplements to supplement, not surplant!
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RE: Russian Bear 5000 - Saturday, February 25, 2006 7:00 PM
i'd give it a try anyway. u alright got the stuff both thats a whole lot of milk ur gonna be drinking and using up.
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RE: Russian Bear 5000 - Friday, March 03, 2006 9:10 AM
ok...i recived today my 2 tubs of russian bear, and glutamine(prolab)...so on monday im gonna start with a new stack...

1-Russian Bear**
2-Glutamine**(im gonna start with 10 grams...5 grams before training and 5 before sleep, and the other weak it will be 20 grams)
3-Cellmass
4-Nitrix**
5-Multivitamins.
6- and a proper diet

** those products are the new ones that im gonna add to my stack, what u guys think???
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RE: Russian Bear 5000 - Friday, March 03, 2006 9:12 AM
ill keep posting my results
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RE: Russian Bear 5000 - Friday, March 03, 2006 1:40 PM
So it has
Serving Size: 5 Scoops (approx. 635gm.)
Servings Per Container: ~3
In Water - In 1 gal Whole Milk
Calories 2600 - 5000
Protein 184 GM - 292 GM
Carbohydrates 391 GM - 567 GM
Fat 0 GM - 128GM

In perspective
A reasonable 1 scoop serving in water provides
Cals - 520
Protein - 36.8
Carbs - 78.2
Fat - 0
 
That gives you 15 servings per container.
at 20$ per container that is about $1.35 per serving.
 
This product recieves Honorable mention on my list of CRAP FREE products. 
 
I have not purchased it and tried it myself as an MRP for two reasons:
1) Cost..I prefer my MPR to be 1$ and under per serving.
2) Nutrient profile.  It would take a little work to design a good MRP with the right nutrient mix for me with this...
 
Protein source is "pharmaceutical grade protein blend consisting of non-fat milk solids and hydrolyzed egg white (albumin)"
 
Carb source is "complex, medium chain and simple carbohydrates"
 
It should be noted that there is no listed Fat...which is not really optimal and will leave ~85% of people feeling hungry.  Some flax oil might be in order there.  BUUUT there are 9 gm of MCT's per 1 scoop.  This is a fat and is probably listed under the carbs.  Coconut oil for instance.  That the body either burns or excretes.  Some people have a low tolerance for this...and they have a very strong excretory response to it!
 
Also contains per 1 scoop:
Yohimbe Bark 300 MG
Sika deer Antler powder 100 MG
Schizandra chinesis 100 MG
Elutherococcus 200 MG
Inosine HXR 100 MG
Colostrum 80 MG
Boron .6 MCG
Chromium Picolinate 40 MCG

Che, do tell us HOW you prepare it and what your portion size is and how you feel 1 hour and 3 hours after...also, how is your energy...?
 
And about those sudden bathroom breaks an hour after if you have em!
 
Side notes:
Modern herbalists recognize Schizandra to have the following actions: antibacterial, antidepressant, antifatigue, aphrodisiac improves endurance, mental performance, physical performance, urogenital tonic and uterine stimulant.
 
Traditionally, antler velvet (Sikadeer Antler powder) has been used to restore, balance and strengthen the body, support joint function, and cultivate an overall feeling of well-being.
 
Colostrum (from cows) contains the growth factor IGF-1, which may help build muscle, and on this basis colostrum has been proposed as a sports supplement. However, results are conflicting on whether it really works.
 
Boron does seem to assist in the proper absorption of calcium, magnesium, and phosphorus from foods, and slows the loss of these minerals through urination. Very preliminary evidence suggests that boron supplements may be helpful for osteoarthritis and osteoporosis.

Yohimbe is sometimes promoted as enhancing libido and acting as an aphrodisiac.   Yohimbe bark is generally expected to contain at least 0.2% yohimbine.
 
Inosine is an important chemical found throughout the body. It plays many roles, one of which is helping to make ATP, the body's main form of usable energy. Based primarily on this fact, inosine supplements have been proposed as an energy booster for athletes. However, most of the available evidence suggests that it doesn't work.
 
Chromium's most important function in the body is to help regulate the amount of glucose (sugar) in the blood. Insulin plays a starring role in this fundamental biological process, by regulating the movement of glucose out of the blood and into cells. Scientists believe that insulin uses chromium as an assistant (technically, a cofactor) to "unlock the door" to the cell membrane, thus allowing glucose to enter the cell.Studies evaluating chromium as a performance enhancer or aid to bodybuilding have yielded almost entirely negative results. 
 
Medium-chain triglycerides (MCTs) are fats with an unusual chemical structure that allows the body to digest them easily. Most fats are broken down in the intestine and reassembled into a special form that can be transported in the blood. But MCTs are absorbed intact and taken to the liver, where they are used directly for energy. In this sense, they are processed very similarly to carbohydrates. For that reason, MCTs have been proposed as an alternative to "carbo-loading" (consumption of a large quantity of carbohydrates prior to intense physical exercise) for providing a concentrated source of easily utilized energy.
 
Siberian "ginseng"  Eleutherococcus senticosus is actually not ginseng at all, but the Russian scientists responsible for promoting it believe that it functions identically.  Some experts believe the herb ciwujia is actually Eleutherococcus, while others claim it is a related but different species.  A double-blind study of 20 endurance athletes over an 8-week period failed to find evidence of benefit with a standard eleutherococcus formulation. Lack of benefit was also seen in another small double-blind crossover trial. Furthermore, in a small double-blind, placebo-controlled trial of endurance athletes, use of eleutherococcus actually increased physiologic signs of stress during intensive training. Ciwujia has not yet been studied in meaningful double-blind trials.  Note that this 200mg is 50% lower than the recommended dose.
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