bigDman's Insane Attempt at wieght gain

Well I here it goes i am going to log my deit very specific and log my wieght
Everyday i will post my diet and my weight at 3 differnt times. Once in the morn before i eat and then once after Meal 5 and once before bed
the wiegh in in the morning and the night is on one scale that is heavier i am wieghing in after Meal 5
 
here is my sample diet i am trying to follow
Okay guys after 2 weeks on a 6000 cal diet and gaining only 1 lbs i am going to the extreme. I have calculate I burn 5700-6500 cals a day. So I am upping my cals to 6800. With the extreme exersize regimine i am on(wrestling) I figure i burn mostly carbs and fat. I am upping my fat and carbs drasticly. I am lowering my protein, but i will still get more then enough protein. I am eating more vegies, trying to cut out dairy all in an atempt to slow down my matablisom
so here is what i came up with
Meal 1- 6:00 AM
banana
carrots
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 oz flax
1 cup quinoa
Meal 2- 8:30 am
Wardog Weight Gain Bar (469 cals 26 gram fat(good fats from pb) 21 grams carb 28 gram protein)( i sometimes replace this with 8oz of lean meat when i can)
30 pistachio's
banana
2 cup rice
carrots
Meal 3- 10:10 am
Turkey Sandwhich(2 pices of bread, 4 oz of turkey, Lettuce, Tomato)
Yogurt
Apple
28 almonds(or walnuts)
1 tsp olive oil
.25 cups quinoa
Meal 4( PRE WORKOUT)-2:30pm
2 cups of rice
4 oz lean meat
carrots
Meal 5(Pre pre workout) 3:30
Xtend and creatine in gatorade or grape juice
Meal 6(POST WORKOUT)-6:00 pm
1 cup oatmeal
Protein Shake(Glutimine, Creatine)
Apple
Anti Oxidents
.25 cups quiona

Meal 7- 7:30
What ever is served
For Example
.5 chicken breast
2 sweetpotato
Salad(spinach, Tomatoes, Shiitake Mushrooms, Broccoli, Flaxseeds)
1 tsp olive oil
Meal 8- 9:00-10:00
Casein Protein Shake
1 tablespoon olive oil
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 cup green beans

Calories 6819
Fat 237 31%
Carbs 923 52%
Protein 291 17%

I am going to eat this and see how my wieght gain goes. If it doesnt increase a pound a week i might have a metabolic disorder.
If i gain wieght to fast I will adjust accordingly

Just some notes!
 

i will post my diet and my weight at 3 differnt times

A weekly weigh-in on the same scale at the same time of day...in the same cloths is sufficient!!
 

If it doesnt increase a pound a week i might have a metabolic disorder.

Not necessarily!...More likely you have a VERY adaptive metabolism and so it is a matter of tweaking the foods, times, etc....the metabolic disorder is a low likelyhood thing to think of as a last resort thing to check!  Since you did not have a problem before your started training...we can reasonably assume the training and eating played a part.
 
AWESOME!!
 

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okay heres what i got today. I didnt eat as much as id like because I had a match today and didnt have chances to eat every 2 hours

Heres what i did eat

Meal 1- 6:00 AM
banana
carrots
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 oz flax
.5 cup quinoa
2 pices of toast
4 tsp of natural pb

Meal 2- 8:30 am

30 pistachio's
banana
2 cup rice
carrots

Meal 3- 10:10 am
Turkey Sandwhich(2 pices of bread, 4 oz of turkey, Lettuce, Tomato)
Yogurt
Apple
28 almonds(or walnuts)
1 tsp olive oil
.25 cups quinoa
Wardog weight gain bar
cheeze its :p

Meal 4( PRE WORKOUT)-3:00pm
2 cups of rice
4 oz lean meat
carrots

Meal 5(Pre pre workout) 4:30
 creatine in apple juice

Meal 6 10:00

4oz of meat loaf
2 sweetpotato
Salad(spinach, Tomatoes, Shiitake Mushrooms, Broccoli, Flaxseeds)
1 tsp olive oil
multi vit, calcium, fish oils


Calories 6913
Fat 264 34%
Carbs 9427 52%
Protein 234 13%


Tommrows diet will be much better... :)

Tommrow my diet will be much better

Weighed 182.5 this morning. I excpect a wieght gain tommrow for just the extra food in me making me wiegh more

7000 calories is insane dude... be careful, cause unless that's burned and/or needed that is most definitely not healthy.

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Some history...
 
Goal is to gain weight.
He ate 3500 calories and lost 5 pounds in a week and was burning 6000 calories a day.
He ate 4500 calories and lost 3 pounds in a week and was burning 6000 calories a day.
He ate 5300 calories and gained 1 pound in 4 weeks and was burning 5175 calories a day.
He ate 6000 calories and gained 1 pound in 2 weeks and was burning 5750 calories a day.
 
So to gain at least 1 pound a week he increased to a ~6800 goal.
Goal is to gain 10 pounds of "lean" mass as fast as safely possible.
181 to 191
 
That said, I helped him tweak his diet to slow his metabolism down...so he may be dropping out up to 1000 calories after 5 days or so!  Depends on his weight and Body fat.
 
Hey bigDman,
When do you need to be 191?
 
phersan

unless that's burned and/or needed 

I think you can see now why he is at that level!

 
Crazy huh!?
 
bigDman
You are kicking A**

 
How are you feeling...how does the training feel?
 
Do you have access to calipers to take your own body fat?
Sorry that body fat calculator link did not work. 
It still works for everyone else...?  Hmmm.
 
No problem..you are going to achieve your goal no matter what.

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i would like to be atleast 187-191 in about 4 weeks

I have this thing that is supost to estimate you bf% and i guess ill use that

i hope to gaine 1 -2 lbs a week(i weighed in at 183 this morning)

 have this thing that is supost to estimate you bf%

 
What thing is it?
 
According to your posts, you gained a half a pound in a day.
 
Since you cut down your protien to a level more appropriate for you, you will hydrate some...the high protein would have dehydrated you..also the carbs...will make you retain a bit more water in the muscle.  Muscle is about 75% water+- when healthy and not dehydrated.
 
So some of your initial weight will likely include water.  After a few days any consistent gains will be muscle or fat.  If the weight you gain every 3 days is over a pound consistently, that is an indicator to start to gradually lower the calories.  There are two ways to do this and when/if you need that I'll tell you about it!
 
Your goal is completely reasonable!  You are right on target!

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another readont he weight went up is yesterday

I only wrestled 1 match(i won in 4 mins) so my cardio was much less

I drink about 1 and half gallon of water a day now compared to the 1 from before

oops wrong one


heres the right one
weighed in at 183 today

i also folowed my diet exactly

Meal 1- 6:00 AM
banana
carrots
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 oz flax
1 cup quinoa

Meal 2- 8:30 am
Wardog Weight Gain Bar (469 cals 26 gram fat(good fats from pb) 21 grams carb 28 gram protein)( i sometimes replace this with 8oz of lean meat when i can)
30 pistachio's
banana
2 cup rice
carrots

Meal 3- 10:10 am
Turkey Sandwhich(2 pices of bread, 4 oz of turkey, Lettuce, Tomato)
Yogurt
Apple
28 almonds(or walnuts)
1 tsp olive oil
.25 cups quinoa

Meal 4( PRE WORKOUT)-2:30pm
2 cups of rice
4 oz lean meat
carrots

Meal 5(Pre pre workout) 3:30
Xtend

Meal 6(POST WORKOUT)-6:00 pm
1 cup oatmeal
Protein Shake(Glutimine)
Xtend
Apple
Anti Oxidents
.25 cups quiona


Meal 7- 7:30

.5 chicken breast
2 sweetpotato
Salad(spinach, Tomatoes, Shiitake Mushrooms, Broccoli, Flaxseeds)
1 tsp olive oil

Meal 8- 9:00-10:00

Casein Protein Shake
1 tablespoon olive oil
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 cup green beans


Calories 6819
Fat 237 31%
Carbs 923 52%
Protein 291 17%

Well, that's consistent!

Not now that it is fixed!
 
Just for reference...
 
Calories 6800
Fat 30%           226 G 
Carbs 55%       935 G 
Protein 15%     255 G

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my bad.. lol
i fixed the above post

How are you feeling?
 
After a few more days...where to take it should start to be pretty clear!

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i feel fine

good energy and everything after a couple more days I can comment about sorness

Im always completly full, and i dont like that feeling but hey, nothing i can do about that

Great.
 

Im always completly full

 
I know that one!  I have the insane metabolism too!
 
In a few days you will probably be able to cut back..that will feel different.  Not so stuffed.

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Looks excellent.
I do 8 meals per day too but my foods are separated, otherwise you eat a bit more than I but I love it!  I wish I could eat half the stuff you have in there but I am allergic to the poultry and eggs.
I go more like this:

Meal 1 (6am) - 40 gm protein shake, 5 gm glutamine, a Tbs Udos oil (5 gm creatine either here or post workout depending on timing)
1000mg Vit C, sometimes more if training harder, up to 10 grams taken 2000mg over 5 meals.  Multi vit/min

Meal 2 (9am) - 1 cup kashi, 1/2 cup no fat soymilk, 1-2 pc fruit

Meal 3 (11am) - 40 gm protein shake, 5 gm glutamine, a Tbs Udos Oil or 1/4 cup nuts

Meal 4 (1pm) - baked potato, 1/4 cup no fat plain yogurt or a sweet potato but no yogurt, 2 cups mixed greens, 4-5 baby carrots, 2 tbs of mustard yogurt dressing (no oils) and maybe a pc of fruit

Meal 5 (4pm) - 1 cup dry cottage cheese, 1 cup chopped brocolli, 1 Tbs Udos

Meal 6 - 2 cups cooked spaghetti, 1 cup no fat or sugar tomato sauce, 2 cups mixed greens with same dressing as lunch

Meal 7 - 40 gm protein of fish or 2 zoglos mock chicken fillets which are 15 gm protein each - with 1-2 cups mixed greens and a Tbs Udos oil mustard dressing (no carbs here, no yogurt), or same as meal 5.

Meal 8 - 40 gm protein shake, 5 gm glutamine and 1/4 cup nuts or if not hungry, 1 Tbs Udos oil.

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Now you inspired me......now that I am up to 8 meals I am going to try adding more to my diet which was always my plan but looking at your plan really inspires me!!!
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Hey Linda...I know you are "pre season" right now, still I bet you are shaping up to come in looking spectacular!

I looked into Udos oil looks great, I wish I could use it,

The oat (and soy) is a problem for me ...sort of the way eggs became for you...I was eating tons of oat a day and was exposed to a chemical that damaged my blood brain barrier...crazy result is hypersensativity to synthetics/artificials/chemicals and gluten.  Though I may have been marginally gluten intolerant before.

Now I have their recipe I can make my own!

Udo's Choice Oil Blend
Ingredient Details:
Flax oil*, sunflower oil,* sesame oil*, coconut oil,* evening primrose oil (0.9 mg GLA per capsule), rice germ and bran oil, soy lecithin (GMO-free), oat germ and bran oil,* tocotrienols.

*third-party certified organic

2 gram serving
Calories 20
Fat Calories 20
Total Fat 2(g)
Polyunsaturated Fat 1.5g
Monounsaturated fat 0.5g
Omega-3 fatty acids 920mg
Omega-6 fatty acids 460mg
Omega-9 fatty acids 400mg

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Hey Linda, I am glad i could be an inspration

weighed in at 185 today :)



Meal 1- 6:00 AM
banana
carrots
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 oz flax
1 cup quinoa

Meal 2- 8:30 am
Wardog Weight Gain Bar (469 cals 26 gram fat(good fats from pb) 21 grams carb 28 gram protein)( i sometimes replace this with 8oz of lean meat when i can)
30 pistachio's
banana
2 cup rice
carrots

Meal 3- 10:10 am
Turkey Sandwhich(2 pices of bread, 4 oz of turkey, Lettuce, Tomato)
Yogurt
Apple
28 almonds(or walnuts)
1 tsp olive oil
.25 cups quinoa

Meal 4( PRE WORKOUT)-2:30pm
2 cups of rice
4 oz lean meat
carrots

Meal 5(Pre pre workout) 3:30
Xtend

Meal 6(POST WORKOUT)-6:00 pm
1 cup oatmeal
Protein Shake(Glutimine)
Xtend
Apple
Anti Oxidents
.25 cups quiona


Meal 7- 7:30
2 cups of qunioa pasta with meat sauce
Salad(spinach, Tomatoes, Shiitake Mushrooms, Broccoli, Flaxseeds, cocunut)
1 tsp olive oil

Meal 8- 9:00-10:00

Casein Protein Shake
1 tablespoon olive oil
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 cup green beans


Calories 6857
Fat 244 31%
Carbs 910 51%
Protein 300 17%

I have more energy while on this diet
I am not completly dead after practice :)

weighed in at 185 today :)
I have more energy while on this diet
I am not completly dead after practice :)

 
Yea! 
I love it when a plan comes together!
 
After you totally hydrate, you need to watch the weight..you dont want to be 220 pounds in a month!!!
 
After the 16th, if it continues to climb 1.25 pounds a day, then you can look at dialing back the calories...
 
 

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i wieghed in at 182 today... I dont know what happen :(

ive decided to cheat ont the weekends for a couple reasons
Eating this many clean cals is hard and cant do it 7 days a week
Something to look foward to and make me want to eat clean all week
Its hard to eat clean on weekends because im always out. at other people house and at parties and it is very difficult to eat clean

While cheating i will still try and keep carbs and fat up and protein down and to eat around 7000 cals 

i wieghed in at 182 today

You really have to sit back and wait for the first full week of following this plan to see results.  3 weeks is better for seeing the results from a plan.
 
Water flux can have a big change right now. 
 
You are Weighing in :
in the same cloths
On the same scale
at the same time
??
 
Do you have calipers?
It would really help to observe the change in bodymass as the weight changes.  Over a few weeks, months etc. 
 

While cheating i will still try and keep carbs and fat up and protein down and to eat around 7000 cals 

 
You know..you could shoot for a range on those days
FROM 3500 with
Protein 219 g
Carbs 440 g
Fat 100 g
 
To 4500 with
Protein 215 g
Carbs 600 g
Fat 150 g
_____________________
Even up To 5500 with
Protein 220 g
Carbs 740 g
Fat 180 g
-----------------------
 
This would certainly keep the metabolism on it's toes!  And be easier for you.
If you are not training it would also be a maintenance level and no trouble for your goal..while having enough to feed your body and your recovery!

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i wiegh in naked on the same scale every morning after i go to the bathroom


i will aim for numbers around those on my cheat days

weighed in at 182 Friday

i also folowed my diet exactly

Meal 1- 6:00 AM
banana
carrots
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 oz flax
1 cup quinoa

Meal 2- 8:30 am
Wardog Weight Gain Bar (469 cals 26 gram fat(good fats from pb) 21 grams carb 28 gram protein)( i sometimes replace this with 8oz of lean meat when i can)
30 pistachio's
banana
2 cup rice
carrots

Meal 3- 10:10 am
Turkey Sandwhich(2 pices of bread, 4 oz of turkey, Lettuce, Tomato)
Yogurt
Apple
28 almonds(or walnuts)
1 tsp olive oil
.25 cups quinoa

Meal 4( PRE WORKOUT)-2:30pm
2 cups of rice
4 oz lean meat
carrots

Meal 5(Pre pre workout) 3:30
Xtend

Meal 6(POST WORKOUT)-6:00 pm
1 cup oatmeal
Protein Shake(Glutimine)
Xtend
Apple
Anti Oxidents
.25 cups quiona


Meal 7- 7:30

.5 chicken breast
2 sweetpotato
Salad(spinach, Tomatoes, Shiitake Mushrooms, Broccoli, Flaxseeds)
1 tsp olive oil

Meal 8- 9:00-10:00

Casein Protein Shake
1 tablespoon olive oil
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 cup green beans


Calories 6819
Fat 237 31%
Carbs 923 52%
Protein 291 17%


yesterday i had a cheat day and i did not wiegh my self


today i am going to have another cheat day and i weighed in at 184

today i weighed in at 184.5

wieghed in at 185 today


yesterdays diet went as followed

Meal 1- 6:00 AM
2 eggs
2 pices of toast with natural pb
banana
carrots
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 oz flax


Meal 2- 8:30 am
Wardog Weight Gain Bar (469 cals 26 gram fat(good fats from pb) 21 grams carb 28 gram protein)( i sometimes replace this with 8oz of lean meat when i can)
30 pistachio's
banana
2 cup rice
carrots

Meal 3- 10:10 am
Turkey Sandwhich(2 pices of bread, 4 oz of turkey, Lettuce, Tomato)
Yogurt
Apple
28 almonds(or walnuts)
1 tsp olive oil
.25 cups quinoa

Meal 4( PRE WORKOUT)-2:30pm
2 cups of rice
4 oz lean meat
carrots

Meal 5(Pre pre workout) 3:30
Xtend

Meal 6(POST WORKOUT)-6:00 pm
1 cup oatmeal
Protein Shake(Glutimine)
Xtend
Apple
Anti Oxidents
.25 cups quiona


Meal 7- 7:30

Mahi Mahi
2 sweetpotato
Salad(spinach, Tomatoes, Shiitake Mushrooms, Broccoli, Flaxseeds)
1 tsp olive oil

Meal 8- 9:00-10:00

Casein Protein Shake
1 tablespoon olive oil
Multi Vit, Calcium, Fishoils
1 cup green beans


Calories 7050
Fat 269 34%
Carbs 875 47%
Protein 330 18%

Looks like an interesting diet.  Goddamn, thats about twice the amount I eat.

Squat 385, Bench 235, Deadlift 450 @ 181.

You are so on target, it hurts!

1/10 182.5
1/11 183
1/12 185
1/13 182
1/15 184
1/17 184.5
1/18 185
             

Here is the thing...how many days have you been taking the creatine?

I want to make an adjustment to the diet recommendation, but this weight gain is also consistent with the water gains from proper carb intake and when the muscles are loading creatine, and I don't want to recommend a change too early.

I  want to be sure to adjust from seeing gains other than water.
Are you happy with your results so far?

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You are so on target, it hurts!

1/10 182.5
1/11 183
1/12 185
1/13 182
1/15 184
1/17 184.5
1/18 185
            

Here is the thing...how many days have you been taking the creatine?

I want to make an adjustment to the diet recommendation, but this weight gain is also consistent with the water gains from proper carb intake and when the muscles are loading creatine, and I don't want to recommend a change too early.

I  want to be sure to adjust from seeing gains other than water.
Are you happy with your results so far?

i havent beent aking creatine... I stoped because i ran out and my dad doesnt want me taking it

Im happy with my results 2.5 lbs in 7 days :)