alcohol and weightlifting

Just wondering how much effect alcohol has on your physicque(sp?)(besides the obvious extra calories)  I know after a long weekend of binge drinking mon/tues i are pretty weak.  I'd like to just smoke a little... you know what... but i have drug tests monthly [&o]

Search the forums for.... alchohol... that might help

Age: 17
Height: 6ft
Weight: 76kilos (170pnds)
Bench: 80kilos (154pnds) Working at 75%
Squat: 85kilos (187pnds) Working at 100%
Deadlift 115kilos (253pnds) Working at 100%

Updated *19/10/06* UK format

actually it's alcohol !

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.

Alcohol is great after workouts... ask Old Navy :P

RIP Joshy.

Eat for the Body you Want. Not the Body you Have.

"May reason be My Guide.
May my Will be My Strength.
May Love be My Foundation."
-Gilbrando

LOL!

This question has come up at least once every week for the past 3-4 weeks.

5' 11'' , 176 lbs, 10%BF

**** dude...i drink beer all the time and im strong as hell. no beer gut as long as u work out regularly.  keep the good times rollin. drink up!!

Height:5'9
Weight: 180
Max bench:300
Max squat: 350
Max deadlift: 335

i drink beer all the time and im strong as hell

I dont drink alcohol. And I lift bigger weight than you. Is there any relavence?

RIP Joshy.

Eat for the Body you Want. Not the Body you Have.

"May reason be My Guide.
May my Will be My Strength.
May Love be My Foundation."
-Gilbrando

Ever heard of the story where some fat guys are athletic than leaner ones? They have better stamina and all? Well, it can be connected to this. Fat guys, though athletic, still have the lower hand. They are actually risking themselves more by not living a healthy lifestyle. Although they can pride themselves on being more athletic than their leaner counterparts, they should also pride themselves in being more prone to drop dead.
 
My point being, it doesnt mean that since there are no obvious effects, you're healthy...
 
Then again, this is a bodybuilding website... Not wholly a melting pot of health concerned people....

ORIGINAL: gnpstang05

**** dude...i drink beer all the time and im strong as hell. no beer gut as long as u work out regularly.  keep the good times rollin. drink up!!

what happens when you stop working out, and you keep drinking.. is it alright than?? And a hangover, which really puts a 2 day damper into your workout schedule.

-Mike



Height:6'2
Weight:254
bf%-13.2
Age:17
Bench: 360
Squat: 475
Deadlift: 515
leg press: 965
**UPDATED:10/2/2005**

FYI: A peach a day, keeps the doctor away!

i drink on the weekend, because im a teenager, and I still guarantee I am as strong as anybody in here.  Big Mike and I are pretty much the same.

and Big Mike is alot bigger than me, so hell yeah drink it up, unless you're planning on being a pro bodybuilder.  I'm all about working out and having a good physique, but don't let it compromise you're social life unless you are planning on making money off of it.

ORIGINAL: raider71

i drink on the weekend, because im a teenager,

I bet you feel cool...dont you!  that is probably the stupidest thing ive heard in a while(not the thing you just said but basically this whole topic).  So basically you drink to be cool in front of your friends , and chill with the popular kids.  i do plan on making it, in NY getting a scholarship to a d2 football school his junior year is pretty rare, and i sure as hell dont wanna mess that up.  And not saying your lying BUT most people that are my strength that i personally know dont drink or smoke because they know the effects that it has on them, and they wouldnt be stupid enough to do it.  Because becoming this strong isnt frigging easy, and i have never touched a beer in my life or even attempted to buy a pack of "boges" to look cool. haha being his big is your social life, when i got my scholarship my fridays were the gym and the grill with my friends, we had to workout and eat.  You dont get it do you, i guess heres where my maturity comes in where most teenagers dont have it... From my 3 years at the gym ive seen the most people on mondays and the least on the weekends... why do you ask? because their partying it up, and trying to work it off on monday.  My friend asked me one day why he only squats 225, i reply with "because my friday includes no weed, and yours does" It might not being that weed is making him only squat 225, but its the dedication factor. I sure as hell would love to see someone get to my size w/o any supplements(other than protein) and still drink beer.   You have pics?

-Mike



Height:6'2
Weight:254
bf%-13.2
Age:17
Bench: 360
Squat: 475
Deadlift: 515
leg press: 965
**UPDATED:10/2/2005**

FYI: A peach a day, keeps the doctor away!

Well man I'm sure I could get you some, but its not quite my top priority to prove anything to you.  What I'm thinking is perhaps you're just offended by the fact that someone can be as big as you are, and still have a little social life on the side.  Not that I am bashing you for your hard work and dedication, but come on you're being a little ridiculous arent you?  I always make my Friday workout and then drink the next day. I mean I had an offer from a division 2 school last year while partying it up.  Big Mike, you are not the supreme being of weightlifting like you think you are.  I myself am only 5'10 and bench pressed 335 while cutting months ago.  So you really dont need to generalize to everyone the way you did, because there is always gonna be someone better.

what is really bizarre and i'm sure will disappoint big mike is that this kid who played football for my high school 2 years ago, now hes a sophmore in college, he got a full scholarship to a D1 college for football to play linebacker. he's 6'1 and weighs only 220. hes strong as hell and fast as hell. finishing high school he barely benched 300 thought. he smoked weed and drank beer liek it was his job. he barely EVER lifted weights. another kid, same age as him, one of the biggest pot heads i've known, was the number 1 wrestler in New England for 2 years in a row, at a pretty hard weight class, also a full scholarship to one of the top wrestling schools in the country. the wrestler also rarely worked out, and he only started wrestling his sophmore year. that's genetics for you.

Alcohol and drugs clearly has some effect on you, to how far of a degree nobody here can really prove. What it comes down to is:

If getting drunk gives you satisfaction, and you can accept the fact that there will at least be a tiny bit of a disadvantage to your health, then do it.

If dedicating everything to weightlfiting gives you satisfaction, and you'd like a tiny advantage over those that do, and you don't need drugs to enjoy yourself, then do it.

Personally I drink and smoke weed regularily, but I have no grand dream of rising up as professional athlete. I work out to look good and handle myself in fights. I do drugs to enjoy myself and possibly get into fights. Works out pretty well.

^word
 
Although i dont smoke, i cant stand it, the smell, the annoyning smoke, i hate smoking full stop.
 
As for alcohol, i accept what i does, i accept the side effects and what harm it might to do the weight lifting, i just like having a good time with my mates.
 

Age: 17
Height: 6ft
Weight: 76kilos (170pnds)
Bench: 80kilos (154pnds) Working at 75%
Squat: 85kilos (187pnds) Working at 100%
Deadlift 115kilos (253pnds) Working at 100%

Updated *19/10/06* UK format

Alcohol has a negative effect on protein synthesis. But I wouldnt be concerned with that unless you are competing. I would just say relax and have a good time. You shouldnt let bodybuilding take over your entire life. As long as youre not boozing it up every night you wont see a bunch of effects of it.

ORIGINAL: Eclipse23

what is really bizarre and i'm sure will disappoint big mike is that this kid who played football for my high school 2 years ago, now hes a sophmore in college, he got a full scholarship to a D1 college for football to play linebacker. he's 6'1 and weighs only 220. hes strong as hell and fast as hell. finishing high school he barely benched 300 thought. he smoked weed and drank beer liek it was his job. he barely EVER lifted weights. another kid, same age as him, one of the biggest pot heads i've known, was the number 1 wrestler in New England for 2 years in a row, at a pretty hard weight class, also a full scholarship to one of the top wrestling schools in the country. the wrestler also rarely worked out, and he only started wrestling his sophmore year. that's genetics for you.

No dont get me wrong i know many people who also smoke and drink like somebody is makign them.  But those are the lucky kids, i have a friend named Dakota, best halfback ive ever seen, about 5'5 125 and the kid hits pretty damn hard.  Does more coke than anybody ive ever seen.  I dunno sh!t comes easy to those kids, but for most it isnt that easy.

-Mike



Height:6'2
Weight:254
bf%-13.2
Age:17
Bench: 360
Squat: 475
Deadlift: 515
leg press: 965
**UPDATED:10/2/2005**

FYI: A peach a day, keeps the doctor away!

ORIGINAL: raider71

  What I'm thinking is perhaps you're just offended by the fact that someone can be as big as you are, and still have a little social life on the side. 

underage drinking isnt a social life...
 

-Mike



Height:6'2
Weight:254
bf%-13.2
Age:17
Bench: 360
Squat: 475
Deadlift: 515
leg press: 965
**UPDATED:10/2/2005**

FYI: A peach a day, keeps the doctor away!

Why does social life have to involve drinking? can't it just involve hot strippers? I mean im ready to workout first thing the next morning after a few lapdances:P

RIP Joshy.

Eat for the Body you Want. Not the Body you Have.

"May reason be My Guide.
May my Will be My Strength.
May Love be My Foundation."
-Gilbrando

ORIGINAL: Bigmike77

ORIGINAL: raider71

What I'm thinking is perhaps you're just offended by the fact that someone can be as big as you are, and still have a little social life on the side. 

underage drinking isnt a social life...

 
So what you're saying is that for me to go out on the weekends and have a few with my buddies doesn't qualify as a social life.  Well, one day you're gonna look back on your high school years and wish you had one more beer and one less protein shake my friend.

Guys, guys!  Allow an old geezer of 30 to make two very important points to you:
 
1.  Drinking as a teenager and smoking pot are illegal.  You're not having a "social life" or "blowing off steam".  You're committing a crime.  If you spent half as much time building your character as you do your body, you'd find that you're much healthier, happier, and prouder in the long run.  Show some discipline and maturity and stop breaking the law.
 
2.  You might think that drinking isn't hurting you now, but give it a few years.  Keep binge-drinking on the weekends and see what your waist looks like at 25, 28, or 30 years of age.  As you enter your mid-twenties, your metabolism begins to slow, and all those empty calories from alcohol have nowhere to go but your gut.  Trust me.  I say this from experience.  I've always been a very skinny guy (weighed in at 113 when I entered the Army at age 17), but between 23 and 30 I put on 40 pounds of pure beer gut, 'cause I drank like a fish.  I regret the hell out of that now, and I'm spending six days a week in the gym doing weights and cardio to trying to undo the past seven years of slovenly living.
 
I know you think you know everything at 16, 18, or 22, but there's a reason that we older guys are fat.  It's 'cause we lived the same way you are when we were your age!
 
 

ORIGINAL: raider71

ORIGINAL: Bigmike77

ORIGINAL: raider71

What I'm thinking is perhaps you're just offended by the fact that someone can be as big as you are, and still have a little social life on the side. 

underage drinking isnt a social life...

So what you're saying is that for me to go out on the weekends and have a few with my buddies doesn't qualify as a social life.  Well, one day you're gonna look back on your high school years and wish you had one more beer and one less protein shake my friend.

Im gunna look back and be fit and healthy, and you my friend are gunna be lazy, out of shape or possibly dead.  Have fun!

-Mike



Height:6'2
Weight:254
bf%-13.2
Age:17
Bench: 360
Squat: 475
Deadlift: 515
leg press: 965
**UPDATED:10/2/2005**

FYI: A peach a day, keeps the doctor away!

ORIGINAL: Blitzseth

Why does social life have to involve drinking? can't it just involve hot strippers? I mean im ready to workout first thing the next morning after a few lapdances:P

-Mike



Height:6'2
Weight:254
bf%-13.2
Age:17
Bench: 360
Squat: 475
Deadlift: 515
leg press: 965
**UPDATED:10/2/2005**

FYI: A peach a day, keeps the doctor away!

i was with raider, but then i started bodybuilding, and i can't get myself to drink, i hated the feeling it left, and the braincells it stole, and how it left me weird

In defense of the drinkers, nobody here said they were binge drinking. You guys are blowing it way out of proportion like raider's some hardcore alcoholic when all he said is he likes to drink beer with friends on weekends. Let people "build their character" their own way, not everyone finds the same things to be fun or interesting.

drinking with my friends on the weekend always invlolved me drinking alot in a short amount of time... 

I never binge anymore, usually enough to get me thoroughly buzzed is all I need.

which is how many? when i would start i'd always end up drinking too much

5-6 beers will keep me comfortably numb. I usually just take 3 shots of something harder though.