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BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Thursday, November 13, 2003 1:32 AM
Since I have been on this forum, I have seen the same sort of initial questions from beginners looking for info on getting started with a bulking program.


here is a compilation of my research that got me started bulking:
- it is a culmination of probably 40-50 hours of research over a couple months.

*disclaimer*

- By no means treat this as gospel; think of it as a starting point to direct your own research.
Everyone is different and will need a slightly different approach to suit their needs and goals.

Anyway, a bit about me:
I am a 29 year old male, ectomorph, 6 feet and 155 lbs
I have never really weight lifted seriously before.
(I was 150 two months ago when I started training!)

I have learned ALOT since I started (all natural) bulking 2 months ago.
Using the following info, I've seen great gains already!

To give you an idea, here are some of my size gains:

I've added an inch to each bicep,
an inch and a quarter to my chest,
and over an inch and a half to my shoulders!!

In terms of strength gains, I was able to add 5-10% more weight each week on most things, so I am now lifting double the weight I started at for some exercises!

(you can always expect to make some quick gains when you first start lifting, then your body starts to get used to the stress and doesn't change as quickly - so get started properly and take full advantage of your "newbie gains"!)

I owe a HUGE thanks to people on forums like this.
The least I can do is pass along what I have learned so far.
I still do about an hour of "body building" research per day if I can
- there is so much to know, and I am always trying to learn something!

OK - lets get down to it...



GETTING STARTED:

take a soft tape measure and record your "girth" in several places.
biceps, chest, quads, waist, shoulders, etc...

try and take a "before picture", and then try and take a "progress picture" at least once a week. (also keep track of your weekly average weight)
- use the SAME lighting and ideally the same camera lens at the same distance to avoid any optical anomalies between your photos; the only thing that you want changing in your photos should be YOUR BODY!

- it may sound cheesy to take pictures, but this combined with the numerical values of your measurements are great ways to track your gains, keep you motivated and see what is working for you.

You'll also want to keep a "work-out journal" to track specific info at each work-out, I'll get into that when we discuss the routine further down.


STRATEGY:

Plan to build your WHOLE body regardless of what "show muscles" you want to aim for...
training the whole body (including legs which most people find boring) is important as it promotes growth hormone release systemically, and that will enhance ALL areas of training and muscle development...

SET REALISTIC GOALS:

Be sure to understand that you will not get a "six pack" or much enhanced muscle definition while bulking.
You can work your abs all day, but the only way to reveal your six pack and other muscle definition, is to reduce the layer of fat hiding it.
That is a whole other part of body building called "cutting" where you reduce your body fat to 10% or less.
- it is near impossible to build muscle and lose fat at the same time - so don't try to.
You can do a "cutting" phase after you bulk, to show off your new body, and all of your hard work.

Don't blindly say something like "I wanna gain 25 pounds by new years", or "I wanna be benching 250 before the summer."
people post crap like that all the time - they have no idea what is or isn't possible, and set themselves up for disappointment or injuries when they push themselves too hard.

Look at your progress and be happy with small gains as they come.
As far as weight gain goes, I think 0.5 to 1 pound a week of lean muscle mass is a pretty great rate of growth.
I don't think it is possible to do much better then that with out "roids", so be happy if you can achieve that.



Your THREE main concerns are:


1) DIET

2) ROUTINE

3) Supplements




1) DIET:

If you don't already know your body type and "basal calorie burn" you need to determine that.
here are a couple links to help with that:

Body Type

basal calculator

Generally for bulking, you want to try to get at least 18 calories/pound of lean body weight.

Try to get 1.5 or 2 grams of protein/pound of lean body weight.

- I am aiming for 30% protein, 50% carbs and 20% fat.
(some people suggest 40% protein, 40% carbs, and 20% fat)
but I can't eat that much protein to save my life, so for now, I am sticking with 30%

As for Carbs; try for complex carbs instead of simple sugars.
Have sweet potatos, brown rice, whole wheat bread, etc.

With fats, avoid saturated fats. Things to look for are Fish, natural peanut butter, olive oil and flax seed - they have the "good fats".

You also want to drink 4 to 6 liters of water a day!
(that's a gallon for you Americans)


Since I am an ectomorph and not worried much about fat gain, I rounded up and my target daily calorie total to 3000 (I weight 155)
As long as the ratios are good, I would rather error on the side of too many calories.
If I notice obvious fat gains, I will scale it back, but so far no issues with that.

At first I couldn't imagine how I would eat that much.
My usual day before was probably 2 crappy meals, making up a total of aprox 1800 calories.
I always used to skip breakfast...

The way to do it is to plan to have 6 small meals a day (500 calories or so)
- it isn't very hard now that I am used to it and NO SKIPPING breakfast!

Anyway - back to the ratio:

30% of 3000 = about 220 grams of protein.
Here is a good formula to know:
4 cals/gram of protein, 4 cals/gram of carbs and 9 cals/gram of fat.

Ideally, You'll want to track your diet; that can be a real chore, but unless you are actually getting your proper calories and correct amounts of protein, all your work is for nothing.
Even the best gym routine will have minimal gains if you don't feed your body well enough to gain lean muscle mass. The way the body looks at it, having extra muscle is a liability; it takes more calories to sustain additional muscle even at rest.
If memory serves, each additional pound of muscle burns 13-20 calories a day, AT REST!
So you really need to convince your body that you are going to feed it well enough that it can afford to use the extra resources and actually build muscle.

I thought that it would be impossible to accurately track my diet, who has time to do it having a busy life style?
But then I was introduced to an awesome site that makes it easy. check it out:
www.fitday.com


2) ROUTINE:

Train each muscle group hard ONCE per week, and try to keep gym time under an hour.
- don't do cardio within 8 hours of a workout.

I could go into detail about the reasons why, but thats a long story.
- it is mainly to do with mental intensity and biochemical factors; there is an optimal window of about 45-55 minutes for making gains, and then it fades into exhaustion and is counter productive to go any longer.
(look up "catabolic" for more info on why not to combine cardio and lifting, and why gym time should be relatively short.)

A lot of people say they are sore for a day or two, but then feel fine so they should be able to work those same muscles again 2-3 days later.
This is believed to be WRONG by the majority of the community.
Just because you aren't feeling "DOMS" (Delayed-Onset Muscle Soreness) doesn't mean you are "healed" and ready to train again.
I have read a lot about this lately, and from what I have found, the muscles only really begin to grow and heal AFTER the pain stops.

The idea is that YOU DON'T GROW AT THE GYM, so give your body time AWAY from the gym to grow and repair itself.

Most of what I have read says to work a muscle group ONCE per week. or even less
- some sources even say work a group once in 8-10 days!


With body building LESS is MORE
- I hear that a lot; don't try and rush it.
Eat properly and work hard on each workout then REST between them, and the gains WILL come.


You'll want to plan to take a FULL WEEK OFF from lifting about every eight weeks or so.
Take that time to let your body rest, and maybe tweak your gym routine and come back with some minor changes.
(examples of things to change: order of exercises, different exercises, numbers of sets/reps, etc...)
The idea with weight training is to keep your body guessing; as long as you are "shocking" your muscles, they WILL GROW!


This is my current split:
- it is pretty basic, but I have had good gains.


Day 1: Chest/Triceps

Day 2: Legs/calves

Day 3: OFF or cardio/abs

Day 4: Back/Biceps/forearms

Day 5: OFF or cardio/abs

Day 6: Shoulders/traps

Day 7: OFF or cardio/abs


Be sure to stretch the specific muscles during or after a workout for a few minutes. I used to think stretching before was ideal, but lately I have found many sources that say stretching before lifting may actually increase risk of injury. Warm-up sets (as described below) will prepare muscles for load bearing.


Take a full 90-120 second BREAK between sets! this may seem long, but it works.

FORM is very important, heavy weight with bad form will only hinder your gains (or worse - you could get injured).
Do your homework, LEARN how to do each exercise properly.
This is a good place to start:

great info about exercises and muscles

Start each workout with compound movements, then move into the isolation work toward the end.
Let's use legs as an example :
"Squats" are a great compound leg exercise, and "seated calf raises" are isolation.

Use light weight and build up slowly for the first couple weeks while you get used to how everything feels, and what weight you can handle.
There is no shame in lifting light to learn form; but it is pretty embarrassing (or much worse) to drop a bar on your face trying to be a tough guy.
you could also end up pulling something or tearing a ligament, and that kind of injury can haunt you for years. So don't mess with weight you can't handle.


You may have heard of "pyramid sets", or "super sets" with short breaks between sets...
personally, I don't think these are very good, they can lead to exhaustion before you get a chance to really work the muscle.

The idea that I believe in is a basic version of the "MAX-OT" philosophy, based on warming up with light weight, building toward the heavy weight without exhaustion, then going heavy for 3 sets to failure.
(as a beginner, there is no point in trying something as advanced as MAX-OT, but later, look into it)

So for now, try something like this:

Warm-up on each muscle group as follows:
NOTE: if you are failing on these sets - you are lifting too heavy for warm-up

1 set at 50% for 10-12 reps,
1 set at 70% for 8 reps,
1 set at 90% for 3 reps,

Now go heavy (100%) for 3 sets aiming to fail between 6-8 reps.
if you can lift more then 8 reps it is not heavy enough.
(advanced body builders will aim for failure between 4-6 reps)

*NOTE: These warm-up sets are only for the first exercise in each muscle group...
example - if "Flat Bench press" is your first "chest day" exercise (as it should be since it is a great compound movement), then warm up on it, but don't warm up again for incline bench, since your chest is already good to go.
Triceps are a small muscle group often paired with "chest day".
Since your Tri's were used in all your "push movements" while working your chest, they are already more a less warmed up.
I wouldn't do the full 3 or 4 warm up sets for Tri's, maybe just do one warm-up set at 70% and then go to your heavy sets.

- you don't want to be exhausted, just warmed up.



TRACK YOUR PROGRESS !!!

Make a "work-out journal".
This is an important way to find out what is working, and notice plateaus.
Use your journal for each work-out and track what weight you lifted and how many reps you did for each exercise.
If you are doing things correctly, each progressive week you should be able to do more reps with the same weight, or add 5-10% more weight and do the same number of reps as the previous week.

A journal is a critical part of your plan to make gains, as it will help keep you on track.
It is also great for motivation to be able to look back a few weeks and see how much stronger you are now!

do 3-4 exercises per muscle group
- try and use free weights instead of machines.
When lifting heavy with intentions to go to failure, always try to work out with a spotter...
(use dumbbells as opposed to barbell for things like bench press if you don't have a spotter, so you can drop them to your side safely if you have trouble.)



3) Supplements:

You'll want to have a good multi-vitamin, and maybe additional vitamin C.
Also look into creatine, glutamine, and ZMA.

Of course "whey protein" is a must to meet your daily protein needs.
(but don't do more then 2 or 3 shakes a day - you want to get more then half of your protein from REAL food sources..

As most weight trainers put their joints and tendons through the ringer, it is a good idea to look into a "connective tissue maintenance" supplement as well.

most of my research points to these three elements:
Glucosamine, Chondroitin, and MSM
- you can buy them individually, but it makes more sense to look for a tablet that contains all three.



There is a start to get you on the road to natural, safe and healthy bulking!

good luck!


OK then... that was alot longer then I set out to make it - I edited the hell out of it and it is still pretty long...
I think it covers all the basics, I hope you enjoyed the read.
< Message edited by Schteevie -- 1/22/2004 6:58:27 PM >

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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Friday, November 28, 2003 11:51 PM
To make this article more complete, I've added the initial bulking gym routine I used for my first 12 weeks.

warm up as explained above - heavy sets are to failure.
(breaks between warm-up and heavy sets 90-120 seconds)

Day 1: Chest/Triceps

flat bench press
- warm up x 3-4 sets
3x6-8

Incline bench (30 degress)
3x6-8

weighted dips
- warm up (on "dip assist machine") 1 set
3x6-8

close grip bench press
3x6-8

cable tri extension
2x6-8

Day 2: Legs/calves

Squats
- warm up 3-4 sets
3x6-8

legg press
3x6-8

legg curls
warm up - 1 set
3x6-8

standing calf raises
3x6-8

Day 3: OFF or cardio/abs

Day 4: Back/Biceps/forearms

pull-ups
(warm-up with lat pull down) 3-4 sets
3x6-8

one arm dumb bell row
warm-up - 1 set
3x6-8

bent over BB row
3x6-8

standing bar bell curls (EZ bar)
3x6-8

standing reverse hammer curls (fore arm)
3x6-8

seated fore arm curls (forearm on leg)
3x6-8

close grip pull ups (chin-ups)
2x6-8

Day 5: OFF or cardio/abs

Day 6: Shoulders/traps

Military press
- warm up 3-4 sets
3x6-8

Side lateral raises
3x6-8

DB shrugs
3x6-8

Day 7: OFF or cardio/abs
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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:48 PM
Wow... thanks.. i like the tips on the warmup workout...

I never do warm up sets, maybe now I will get better gains.

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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:45 PM
Totally.. if you warm up.. you'll be much more primed to lift the heavier weights. And you will be less likely to incur an injury due to a cold muscle and a pull. I warm-up always and I've noticed that my pumps are better and I can ultimately lift more weight.
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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Wednesday, December 17, 2003 5:48 PM
Hey, just wondering, did you ever post your detailed guide?

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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Sunday, December 21, 2003 12:31 AM
I got busy - sorry
- it'll be in that post that says it is comming soon - I'll edit it and get it posted on that second post right below the main article...

update: I am heading into week 15 now, and my size/weight/strength gains have continued on more a less the same curve!
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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Monday, January 05, 2004 4:48 PM
That was fantastic, i'm a beginner to this and reading that has given me so much advice and motivation, thanks.

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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:29 PM
I have updated the second post with my initial routine.
I am now heading towards week 17!

My gains have been consistant - I've gained almost 10 pounds now and my bicepts are 2 inches bigger then when I started 4 months ago!

I am redoing my routine abit this week - for variety, and also because my arms are stronger now, so I feel I can seperate the classic pairings of "back/bi" and "chest/tri".
(I was finding back day is taking too long (almost an hour and a half some days), so I wanted to get biceps onto a different day)

So for now I am going to do:

Day 1: Chest/Biceps/forearms

Day 2: Legs/calves

Day 3: OFF or cardio/abs

Day 4: Back

Day 5: OFF or cardio/abs

Day 6: Shoulders/Traps/Triceps

Day 7: OFF or cardio/abs
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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:40 PM

My gains have been consistant - I've gained almost 10 pounds now and my bicepts are 2 inches bigger then when I started 4 months ago!


WOW! Dude that's amazing you are doing so well!

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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:38 PM
That guy is GREAT for newbies.. very nice.. very detailed.. thanks again for the work!
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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:47 PM
Yeah he has some really good information on routine basics. Helped me get an idea.

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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Wednesday, January 21, 2004 9:08 PM
I'm thinking about using this on Freedomfly..
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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Thursday, January 22, 2004 6:49 PM
I have just edited my original article to make a small change:

______

"Be sure to stretch the specific muscles before a work out" was changed to:

Be sure to stretch the specific muscles during or after a workout for a few minutes. I used to think stretching before was ideal, but lately I have found many sources that say stretching before lifting may actually increase risk of injury. Warm-up sets (as described below) will prepare muscles for load bearing.
______


I have tried this change for the past 6 weeks, and have seen less DOMS - so who knows...
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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Tuesday, February 17, 2004 6:17 PM
Cool... thanks!

This is even better, I am positive this has already helped many.
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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:42 AM
This was a HUGE help! I wouldn't have known where to start without this, thanks so much!

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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Wednesday, June 30, 2004 3:37 AM

ORIGINAL: Schteevie

I have just edited my original article to make a small change:

______

"Be sure to stretch the specific muscles before a work out" was changed to:

Be sure to stretch the specific muscles during or after a workout for a few minutes. I used to think stretching before was ideal, but lately I have found many sources that say stretching before lifting may actually increase risk of injury. Warm-up sets (as described below) will prepare muscles for load bearing.
______


I have tried this change for the past 6 weeks, and have seen less DOMS - so who knows...



I'm new here, but I saw this and had to speak up....


stretching before you lift is absolutely imperative if you are going to lift heavy weights. It might not be necessary to stretch intensively, but stretching to at least get the tension out of your muscles is a must. Your muscles can vary from day to day, so just because you haven't had a strain *yet* doesn't mean you won't get one!!

It is actually optimal to stretch throughout your workout, but you don't have to do incredibly difficult stretches--just enough to feel a burn right before you lift maybe.

Lastly, nearly all championship bodybuilders work each muscle twice a week with 3 days rest (for ex. Monday and Thursday, Tuesday and Friday, etc.). This does, however, rely very much on your diet and getting enough protein and vitamins to allow your muscles to recuperate in that length of time.

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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:52 AM

ORIGINAL: RebelT
I'm new here, but I saw this and had to speak up....

Lastly, nearly all championship bodybuilders work each muscle twice a week with 3 days rest (for ex. Monday and Thursday, Tuesday and Friday, etc.). This does, however, rely very much on your diet and getting enough protein and vitamins to allow your muscles to recuperate in that length of time.

Um, and what is a major contributing factor as to why the top Bodybuilders CAN work out like that???? Anyone? Anyone?

Oh, right, 'Riods and Pro-Hormones

Yes, diet, rest, etc.. do contribute to your bodies ability to recover but please don't foster the belief that that is the main reason behind a large percentage of the Pro's ability to complete those ridiculous training regimens.

Paul
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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Friday, July 02, 2004 2:09 AM

ORIGINAL: pwolf66

Um, and what is a major contributing factor as to why the top Bodybuilders CAN work out like that???? Anyone? Anyone?

Oh, right, 'Riods and Pro-Hormones

Yes, diet, rest, etc.. do contribute to your bodies ability to recover but please don't foster the belief that that is the main reason behind a large percentage of the Pro's ability to complete those ridiculous training regimens.

Paul




I in no way see it as ridiculous. As I said, I'm new to bodybuilding so I can't comment directly, but my roommate in college last year absolutely exploded using that exact regimen and he used nothing but protein and a great diet.



For you or I to tell one person what is best in this case is like telling a person how much weight to lift the first time they go to the gym. EVERYONE is different, so everyone will work differently. The main thing is to use your brain and let you body tell you what you should and should not be doing. I'm just trying to let it be known that a beginner should not be scared of working a muscle group with 3 days rest *IF* it works for them.
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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:56 PM
Thats a really good read thanks for the info. Ive been using weights for a couple of years now and people prob wouldnt even know it (im about 130 pounds, 5''9) im real jealous of your gains!

Im an ectomorph, and the thing that confuses me a little is the 3-4 excercises per body part you mention. Does this mean 9-12 sets per body part? I get fatigued doing just 3 sets.

Ive always done 12 rep's, so Im guna try 6 reps for my sets now with heavier weight. Last year I havnt increased the amount i can left by anything.

But ill try what youve said, Thanks
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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:25 PM
thanx for all the advice, so far ive been going to my gym for about 8 weeks and have noticed deccent results, 8 pounds gain about
im going to try this plan out

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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Saturday, August 14, 2004 10:48 PM
wow that guide/advice is rly rly helpful its always critical to start trainging the right way and learn everything the RIGHT way. thanks alot bro

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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:57 AM
"SkinnyAsFck" is by far the funniest name I've seen on here. Dude (Skinny) you DEFINITELY need to do heavy weight/low reps. Good thing you figured that out. I was an ectomorph too (well I guess I still am, if that means small boned I guess it's a permanent thing..) but I've gained about 50 lbs in the past 5 yrs. It took me forever to actually realize that YOU GOTTA EAT. You also gotta lift heavy and heavier. Just keep adding weight and pushing harder. Sucks for me that I didn't figure this out when I was younger.. just didn't have the motivation then. It's also nice to get an edge, so creatine and some other supps help alot. Schteevie, I'm surprised you're not getting fat like me.. Now that I'm 29, my metabolism has seriously slowed.. You shouldn't have any trouble gaining weight; sounds like it's been working the past few months for you. Good luck guys.

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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:58 AM
Oh, and thanks for that FitDay link, looks sweet.

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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Sunday, September 12, 2004 8:17 PM
YES! Bulkling = eat eat eat eat eat. Yet another small bones fella here that's made the transformation. Even now, I'm in my bulking phase and all I do is eat, weight gainers are heaven though because A) I couldn't afford that much food and B) it's so nice and easy. 7 meals a day is a LOT but 4 meals and 3 drinks/bars is nice and easy.
Working out is such a personal thing, I wish it was easy to all do the same workouts and get the same results. I work one bodypart a week aside from arms, calves, and abs.
Here is a sample chest workout

Flat bench 5 x 5
incline bench 4 x 10
Flat dumbell press 3 x 10-12
Cable flys 3 x 12
weighted dips 3 x 8-12

then any of a few things for a couple more sets to completely burn out my chest
machine chest press, cable cross, incline dumbells (flyes or press depending on how I feel)

used to do pullovers but I use them for serratus anterior developement on back days now.

But most people wouldn't do that many sets, especially new people. But after a workout like that I'll throw down 1,000+ calories

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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Wednesday, September 29, 2004 9:11 PM
What weight gainers do you use? cuz the ones I looked at were like 40 bucks for about 20 servings (and thats halfing the serving suggestion they had.) I just think thats kinda expensive. Or not... I guess 2 bucks a meal aint that bad. Unless you look at the cost of my breakfast which is like $1.50 for 70 g protein 100 g carbs 10-15g fat...

anyway yeh... which weight gainers do you use?

Terr

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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:49 AM
It changes really. Whatever I can get my hands on on GNC's Gold card week, or vitamin world's sale days. Whatever I can get for the cheapest. My favorite tasting was Met-rx's chocolate. But Vitamin world's stuff is pretty good too. I can make it about a month on one container. I never take what they call a "serving size" Like GNC's 2200 is 2200 calories per serving,.....Uhhhh that's a lot in one meal. The average person only needs that many calories in a day. Don't get me wrong after a workout I'll throw down anywhere up to 1,000 calories or more. But 2200 is kind of way too much. I just use 1 scoop each drink. Adds up to be about 300-500 calories per serving which is all I need to tie me over from meal to meal. Sometimes I'll mix a protein powder with a weight gainer powder for a larger serving.

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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:25 PM
This is my first time posting after floating around the forum for a few days. After reading this I just have to say thanks for the help. I'm 6' at 160 lbs after lifting for about 3 months(gained 5lbs). A few weeks ago I felt like I hit a wall and I realized my workout has been ass backwards. I was working the same muscle every other day and paying no attention to diet. I have been researching alot to start my bulking stage and after reading this I plan on starting right after I submit this post.

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Day 1 Routine - Need Help - Sunday, February 06, 2005 10:56 AM
I have been working out for two months and made similar gains by working out my WHOLE body on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. I have went from a skinny punk to much larger everything. Very noticeable improvement. It takes about two hours a day, and I've been primarily been using a weird cable machine thing my dad has called Hoist... but now I have some free weights.

If I'm reading this right, and you guy's seem to know your stuff, I'd be better off working one muscle once a week? I'm going to try it but I need your help... your Day 1 looks like this:

Day 1: Chest/Triceps

flat bench press
- warm up x 3-4 sets
3x6-8

Incline bench (30 degress)
3x6-8

weighted dips
- warm up (on "dip assist machine") 1 set
3x6-8

close grip bench press
3x6-8

cable tri extension
2x6-8

I do not have a bar bell... just dumb bells. I can't get a bar bell either... but I can use this "hoist" machine that allows you to be in a seated position and do cable type presses...

I just have three quick questions that anyones advice on would be great...

Question #1

I don't have a dip machine, so which of the following should I replace the "weighted dip" exercise with?

1. Cable Rope Overhand Tricep Extension
2. Cable Lying Tricep Extension
3. Or anything else that would utilize Dumb Bells and/or a Bench.

Question #2

Since I don't have a Bar Bell, Should I attempt the "close grip bench press" with my dumb bells? Or should I just go ahead and do it on the Hoist machine? Again the machine (if you don't know) is one of things that you can sit on with a back support and two big arms come out on your sides with handles, so you can grip it like a bar bell and push out horizontally out for the presses.

Question #3

For the "cable tri extension" I'm not sure what exercise that refers to... which of these should I do for that? I already believe one of these will be replacing the dip machine in my #1 question...

1. Cable Rope Overhand Tricep Extension
2. Cable Lying Tricep Extension
3. Or anything else that would utilize Dumb Bells and/or a Bench.

Ok that's it.. oh and if you really want to help a guy out... should I throw in a pectoral fly exerices anywhere in the routine? I really want my chest larger. The hoist machine lets you do a decent one or I could do one with free weights... what would be best??

Thanks!!!


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RE: Day 1 Routine - Need Help - Sunday, February 06, 2005 12:54 PM
I have been working out for two months and made similar gains by working out my WHOLE body on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. I have went from a skinny punk to much larger everything. Very noticeable improvement. It takes about two hours a day, and I've been primarily been using a weird cable machine thing my dad has called Hoist... but now I have some free weights



If i were to work out my whole body, it would take me at least 5 hours in the gym when it is not busy! 1 hour per body part.

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RE: BULKING !!! - A beginner's guide - Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:37 AM
good plan man, i am going to try it out.
-Mike

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