benching strength question.

twistedlink


thatd be difficult i go to the gym by myself...I might have an old video somewhere.

Im not trying to sound ****y, but im pretty sure my benchpress form is correct, pinkys on the rings or thereabouts, arms in line with nipples, bar touched nipple, and raise up, only keep a slight arch in the back and dont lift off your ass.

If it was 220lbs or 250lbs id say it was form or something i could fix, but 200lbs bodyweight for a max nearly half my weight, thats wrong, no matter how bad my form is that max is way ****ed up, it should not be happening.

Im having scrawny 120lbs teenagers out-bench me, some come in and can rep 175lbs for reps, and im there 80lbs of muscle heavier doing 65lbs less for 1 rep.

same form, its dumb.

The annoying thing is it doesnt appear to be injury, the only time i get pains or problems is when i bench or shoulder press.

Personally im just designed to pull, and not push, sucks, but life deals out **** cards sometimes, i dont think its much of a problem, just frustrating, im not terminally ill or anything, if id ask for one design **** up on my body, id ask for something as trivial as a low benchpress LOL, know what i mean?

Its just annoying that all training methods i use increase my strength, apart from bench, doesnt matter what i do it just goes down or stays the same, and when i do increase it its hard work, the only time i ever did increase it was when IBB got me doing like 25 sets every other day on chest, and it hurt, a LOT.

Id rather not do it again, but it does work admittedly.

Just wondering if you ever tried the bench routine I PMed you?   If you do that routine for a few months or so and still don't increase your bench strength then you might want to consider going to a sports med doc and getting checked.  

There is never enough time to do everything, but there is always enough time to do the most important thing

 

I tried it already smound, i cant add the 5lbs every week, my bench just sticks, i know progression is the only way to properly train size and strength, deadlift and rows i can do that usually quite well, but bench, nah

Il do the xlbs for x reps

next week if i add 5lbs, the reps simply go down.

Like i said, gaining strength on bench for me is stupidly difficult, deadlift and everything else i can rack another 10lbs on and stay at the same reps (or i used to, but at 400lbs im not too bothered at lack of progression, because im already strong in that lift)

but yeh...bench is just shyte, i might go to a doc, but thatl cost money which i literally dont have

but what about negatives?? negatives help BIG time.
 
wish i could train with you for just 6 months andrew.  i'm sure we could get your bench up there.  almost certain of it.  that'd be saaaaWeeet.

My name is FOX.... and I approve this message.

ehhh...negatives are just heavy weight with someone helping you silverfox, it wont get my body used to a higher weight because its not using a higher weight, im using the same weight because the spotter is doing the extra 45lbs i cant do, which is why i never see the point in negatives, not just that but ive never really done negatives, i wouldnt know how to perform them properly, and if i ask a gym member theyl start lecturing me on what im doing wrong when they just do cable curls all day long which id rather not have LOL

twistedlink


ehhh...negatives are just heavy weight with someone helping you silverfox, it wont get my body used to a higher weight because its not using a higher weight, im using the same weight because the spotter is doing the extra 45lbs i cant do, which is why i never see the point in negatives, not just that but ive never really done negatives, i wouldnt know how to perform them properly, and if i ask a gym member theyl start lecturing me on what im doing wrong when they just do cable curls all day long which id rather not have LOL

Twisted, from your responses it seems you've simply given up... If that's the case then you're probably right and will never make any progress on your presses.  

You mentioned in your post in response to me that you were unable to add 5lbs each workout.. if that's the case then it's obvious you're not following my instructions.  You should be starting out your routine at approximately 70% of your ?Rm   if you're max for 15 reps is 100lbs then you should start the routine at 70lbs and not 100lbs.   It's fairly obvious most people on here believe that it's impossible to gain strength doing high reps, lighter weight and that's simply not the case... do the routine for 8 weeks and I can almost promise you that you'll add 20-40lbs on your current press.

There is never enough time to do everything, but there is always enough time to do the most important thing

 

lol, you got all that from my opinion on negatives? haha

Admittedly youre half right, i am fed up and not really caring much for an increase anymore.

I didnt know i had to go to 70% of the x rep max, but thats like...the bar...for 15 reps...

Im going to look an even bigger tool repping the bar and then deadlifting 330lbs for 10 reps....

10 rep max (to failure) is around 85lbs as you know smound

65lbs i can do 15 reps to failure

45lbs (the bar) i can do 15 reps at the 70% point...

Uggggh this sucks...

twistedlink


10 rep max (to failure) is around 85lbs as you know smound

65lbs i can do 15 reps to failure

45lbs (the bar) i can do 15 reps at the 70% point...

Uggggh this sucks...

Well I do admit it's going to look horribly funny seeing someone dead 300 Plus and then rep the bar.. LOL but hey, so what....

I think the biggest problem with your imbalances are greater chances of injury, even on your strong lifts.. the body functions as a whole and anytime an imbalance is that great... It's only a matter of time before you end up with some type of serious injury...

don't do it for the sake of lifting big weight on presses.. do it for the sake of keeping your body healthy and functional... You can do it!!

There is never enough time to do everything, but there is always enough time to do the most important thing

 

you can do it andrew.   just try.. TRY it for 6 months.  regardless of whatever you think... or feel, just give it a solid 6 months effort.

and as for the negatives thing, i'm a firm believer that it can help you get out of slumps.  but to each his own i guess. 

smoundz gives great advice, and his method WILL work. i've used it myself many times.  it takes a lot of time, hard work... and patience.  i say give it a go, and don't give up.  even if your numbers start to go down 3 months in.. who cares.  just keep trying. 

My name is FOX.... and I approve this message.

smoundzou

twistedlink


10 rep max (to failure) is around 85lbs as you know smound

65lbs i can do 15 reps to failure

45lbs (the bar) i can do 15 reps at the 70% point...

Uggggh this sucks...

Well I do admit it's going to look horribly funny seeing someone dead 300 Plus and then rep the bar.. LOL but hey, so what....

I think the biggest problem with your imbalances are greater chances of injury, even on your strong lifts.. the body functions as a whole and anytime an imbalance is that great... It's only a matter of time before you end up with some type of serious injury...

don't do it for the sake of lifting big weight on presses.. do it for the sake of keeping your body healthy and functional... You can do it!!

A design is only as strong as the weakest part...as they say...

Yeh smound and silver, i'll try, but ive tried before and not much luck, so dont get your hopes up LOL.

Believe me id love to train with some guys here, especially smoundz, thatd be awesome.

I can imagine smound loading on like 400lbs bench, and throwing it in the air, clapping his hands, catching it, and doing it over and over while shouting

"EURO!"

"TRAINING!"

each time he throws it up HAHA.

And then deadlifting the entire dumbell section haha.

Have you got any pics or vids actually smound??

2skinny it also depends on your age but i'd say your lift is alot more impressive..

Bulking through atleast new years

Technically he is stronger but in ratio you are stronger, becuase for your size, you can lift more he can. YOu can lift more then your bodyweight and he cant so if you were to be same size and weight, you would be stronger.