Thoughts of this lifting routine?

accidently made a post trying to edit my last one..

Bulking through atleast new years

i only do 5 sets for the flat bench, deadlift, and squats. All the rest are 3 sets with 6-10 reps

Id really rather not drop anything on my arms day. I love the feeling you get from it. What exercises from it owuld you say i should drop from my arm routine.

Oh and my back/ shoulder routine is prob an hour and 15 mins.

And for my fitness level im pretty healthy. Im 145lbs benching about 195lbs. not much body fat at all(except for a little bit of that pesky fat hiding my abs lol) I been lifting for about a year and a half but i just started doing the deadlift and squats lately.


but i started doing culrs like 2 years ago so they are a little bit bigger than the rest of me. Yea i was the guy that wanted my arms to be huge and to tell the truth i stil am like thatbut i realized i need to start wokring on everything else too. My legs are really bad compared to my upper body. My max dead lift is like 200lbs and my max squat is prob like 150lbs. Yea embarassing. But my bench ain't bad lol.

Good Riddance


LoL, good lord. I looked at that back/shoulder day and was amazed. How long does it usually take you to get through a workout? Soop maybe you should post your routine also? Sound like you might need some critiques to be honest.

NBSFighter

soopanick


personally i wouldn't listen to "connelly" if i were you...
i mean, i don't know where you're at fitness wise...
if you're a beginner, intermediate or advanced...
i'm doing chest today...
here's what i'll be doing...
i like variety instead of beating one exercise to death...
3 sets of 10...  

for the pecs...

1.  barbell overhead pull
2.  flat dumbbell fly
3.  flat bench press
4.  flat dumbbell bench press


upper pecs

1.  incline bench press
2.  incline dumbbell bench press


lower pecs

1.  decline bench press
2.  bent-arm pullover
3.  decline dumbbell bench press


than maybe some cable crossovers, regular pushups and decline pushups...
a good hour to an hour and half = DRASTIC OVERKILL

I fixed your message for you

i didn't think anyone would think it was meant to all be consecutive...

jkenosky88


Id really rather not drop anything on my arms day. I love the feeling youget from it. What exercises from it owuld you say i should drop from my arm routine.

If the feeling your muscles get is more important than making them grow, then by all means keep you workout how it is.  IF, however, you want to optimize gains, work every part of your body evenly.  When you do any press, your tri's get hit, and any pull will hit your bi's. They get plenty of stimulation elsewhere.  If you must, it wouldn't hurt too much to do 3 sets of curls and 3 sets of some sort of tricep iso, but no more than that.  Focus on your big lifts.  They are much more important for overall growth and development.

soopanick



Good Riddance...
a critique?
from who?   you?
right...
ifthose are the only chest exercises he's going to be doing for hischest, then it'd be a routine that's sorely lacking.
he asked what are some exercises that he could do...
i listed some chest exercises and where they work...
OBVIOUSLY i didn't mean for him to do all that consecutively...

You, sir, do not have any credentials to be giving out advice, especially now after the poor advice you have given in this thread. Good riddance advice > yours.

You say OBVIOUSLY you didn't mean for him to do all that, yet in the post you said "Here is what I do".  Sounds to me like you were recommending to do every bit of it.

NBSFighter

jkenosky88


Id really rather not drop anything on my arms day. I love the feeling youget from it. What exercises from it owuld you say i should drop from my arm routine.

If the feeling your muscles get is more important than making them grow, then by all means keep you workout how it is.  IF, however, you want to optimize gains, work every part of your body evenly.  When you do any press, your tri's get hit, and any pull will hit your bi's. They get plenty of stimulation elsewhere.  If you must, it wouldn't hurt too much to do 3 sets of curls and 3 sets of some sort of tricep iso, but no more than that.  Focus on your big lifts.  They are much more important for overall growth and development.

soopanick



Good Riddance...
a critique?
from who?   you?
right...
ifthose are the only chest exercises he's going to be doing for hischest, then it'd be a routine that's sorely lacking.
he asked what are some exercises that he could do...
i listed some chest exercises and where they work...
OBVIOUSLY i didn't mean for him to do all that consecutively...

You, sir, do not have any credentials to be giving out advice, especially now after the poor advice you have given in this thread. Good riddance advice > yours.

You say OBVIOUSLY you didn't mean for him to do all that, yet in the post you said "Here is what I do".  Sounds to me like you were recommending to do every bit of it.

bad advice?
he asked for chest exercises...if those are the only ones he does, IT WILL be lacking...
listing things that he COULD add (or not) is bad advice?
i didn't mean for him to do EVERYTHING i listed...they were options.
...i asked what level he's at, without getting an answer why would i suggest all that?
you boy, don't seem to know what you're talking about...
as much as diggin your whole confrontational thing, i think i'll move on.

soopanick

NBSFighter

jkenosky88


Id really rather not drop anything on my arms day. I love the feeling youget from it. What exercises from it owuld you say i should drop from my arm routine.

If the feeling your muscles get is more important than making them grow, then by all means keep you workout how it is.  IF, however, you want to optimize gains, work every part of your body evenly.  When you do any press, your tri's get hit, and any pull will hit your bi's. They get plenty of stimulation elsewhere.  If you must, it wouldn't hurt too much to do 3 sets of curls and 3 sets of some sort of tricep iso, but no more than that.  Focus on your big lifts.  They are much more important for overall growth and development.

soopanick



Good Riddance...
a critique?
from who?   you?
right...
ifthose are the only chest exercises he's going to be doing for hischest, then it'd be a routine that's sorely lacking.
he asked what are some exercises that he could do...
i listed some chest exercises and where they work...
OBVIOUSLY i didn't mean for him to do all that consecutively...

You, sir, do not have any credentials to be giving out advice, especially now after the poor advice you have given in this thread. Good riddance advice > yours.

You say OBVIOUSLY you didn't mean for him to do all that, yet in the post you said "Here is what I do".  Sounds to me like you were recommending to do every bit of it.

bad advice?
he asked for chest exercises...if those are the only ones he does, IT WILL be lacking...
listing things that he COULD add (or not) is bad advice?
i didn't mean for him to do EVERYTHING i listed...they were options.
...i asked what level he's at, without getting an answer why would i suggest all that?
you boy, don't seem to know what you're talking about...
as much as diggin your whole confrontational thing, i think i'll move on.

So, since I was backing connelly and GR, then all 3 of us don't know what we are talking about.  Seeing as how we are telling this guy things that are generally agreed upon on this site, you might want to find a new message board since you know more than all of us.  I really would like to know how I don't know what I am talking about.

soopanick

jkenosky88


what else could i do on my chest day? I thought i might be over training it with just those exercises. I used to do my chest twice a week but that was too much for my body and became over training.  i started doing it only once a week and i already notcied i was stronger on my chest day.

personally i wouldn't listen to "connelly" if i were you...
i mean, i don't know where you're at fitness wise...
if you're a beginner, intermediate or advanced...
i'm doing chest today...
here's what i'll be doing...
i like variety instead of beating one exercise to death...
3 sets of 10...  

The End.

Every Saint has a Past. Every Sinner has a Future.

I have to agree with good ridance.  You may have not meant what you said but you said it.

To jkenosky on:
bench press
chest flies
dumbell press
incline bench press
pushup

If all of that is not giving you enough workout then you aren't using high enough weight or never reping to muscle failure.

no no no that chest routine is fine with me. Im always soar the next morning and work to failur. Im glad i dont have to do ne more. I dont think id be able todo any more at the end of my workout lol

well since you cleared up how many sets your doing that puts you at 14 sets for chest plus pushups. I would say that seems reasonable since your only working your chest once a week.

And soopanick no one is trying to start anything with you we are just trying to help give the best help we can to help jkenosky with his lifting.

Also jkenosky for the next month or two your gonna have alot of motivation if you stick with a solid program since you just started doing squats and deads. i remember seeing my deadlift go up 70 lb. in about 5 weeks its fun (:.
And for back/shoulders i would probably take out dumbell rows for arms i would take out 2 exercises for bi's and 2 for tri's.

Bulking through atleast new years

i should have worded it better!!!

AGAIN...

all i did was suggest some things jkenosky88 COULD add to his chest program...

i listed a ton of stuff he COULD add ...or not.

you'd think the first response to my bad wording would be for some clarification... - BUT - NBSfighter had to post some wise ass remark...

...and then he's mentions good riddance and 13yo as his "backup"?

what is this, high school?

...insisting (even AFTER i posted AGAIN to clarify what i orig meant!) that i don't know what i'm talking about and that I am the one that needs advice.

unnecessarily confrontational...

the concept of this site is for a variety of people to give and ask advice.

MANY times, people disagree...

the guy orig asked for advice...i disagreed with connelly, who initially responded to him.

with respect - and taking ALL things into consideration - i don't know what a 13yo is doing giving advice in this matter...

it's great that he's on here - BUT - he should be listening and asking questions more than offering advice.

and also, i'm quite sure that my education in sports medicine AND level or fitness exceeds that of connelly, Good Riddance AND NBSfighter...

i don't know eveything...but my original response was quite simple...

his chest wasn't bad but his routine IS limited...not so much in the output but balance and variety.

essentially all i did was list exercises that he could pick and choose from to fix that.

i could have worded it better...true.

the thing is tho, you'd think after my first clarification these people get it...i mean seriously.

being difficult for the sake of being difficult isn't productive.


 
 

No reason to continue getting fired up.  It's done, forget about it.

soopanick


i should have worded it better!!!

AGAIN...

all i did was suggest some things jkenosky88 COULD add to his chest program...

i listed a ton of stuff he COULD add ...or not.

you'd think the first response to my bad wording would be for some clarification... - BUT - NBSfighter had to post some wise ass remark...

...and then he's mentions good riddance and 13yo as his "backup"?

what is this, high school?

...insisting (even AFTER i posted AGAIN to clarify what i orig meant!) that i don't know what i'm talking about and that I am the one that needs advice.

unnecessarily confrontational...

the concept of this site is for a variety of people to give and ask advice.

MANY times, people disagree...

the guy orig asked for advice...i disagreed with connelly, who initially responded to him.

with respect - and taking ALL things into consideration - i don't know what a 13yo is doing giving advice in this matter...

it's great that he's on here - BUT - he should be listening and asking questions more than offering advice.

and also, i'm quite sure that my education in sports medicine AND level or fitness exceeds that of connelly, Good Riddance AND NBSfighter...

i don't know eveything...but my original response was quite simple...

his chest wasn't bad but his routine IS limited...not so much in the output but balance and variety.

essentially all i did was list exercises that he could pick and choose from to fix that.

i could have worded it better...true.

the thing is tho, you'd think after my first clarification these people get it...i mean seriously.

being difficult for the sake of being difficult isn't productive.

All you need for your chest is flat bench, and dips.

Also, so you know, there's no upper and lower chest.  The pecs are one muscle, you have two of them, a left and a right.  Doing an incline bench does not target the "upper" fibers of the chest, it just focuses more on the shoulders.

And this isn't Floral Park, you don't have to argue with everyone.

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no need to keep arguing i think you've made it pretty clear you disagree with most everything and more we've said and i'm glad you think so highly of your physical training education..

Bulking through atleast new years