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Training help and question - Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:56 AM
Hi, ok so im 183~ tall and my weight is around 85kilo, no im not fat.

I made a topic before which can be found here: http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/Training_Question_in_need_of_help/m_400265/tm.htm

My question is i been training like that for 2weeks, (i know that might not be enough) but only difference is i lost some weight and "baby fat" around my face, more.. "tight" body?

But well how long does it take to gain a sixpack^^? I mean im not happy with the result. I thought i would see a bigger difference after 2 weeks. Sure the difference IS visible pretty much but not enough:P

I am a vegetarian i eat soy & egg daily
No im not on any type of diet except i dont eat candy / fast food or drink any kind soda's
I sleep on sundays & sometimes wendsdays

Also i dont train at gym all my training is at home on the floor.
Also one of my friends told me i need to go to gym to gain a sixpack & real muscle's :S is that true? cause i cant really afford a gym card.

Also could anyone tell me how to train chest muscle's properly :)?
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RE: Training help and question - Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:44 AM

ORIGINAL: Bradley123
Also could anyone tell me how to train chest muscle's properly :)?

 
I recommend regular pushups.
Prop your legs on a table and do decline pushups too.
Grab two folding chairs and do some dips as well.
 

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RE: Training help and question - Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:10 PM

ORIGINAL: Solomon Grundy


ORIGINAL: Bradley123
Also could anyone tell me how to train chest muscle's properly :)?


I recommend regular pushups.
Prop your legs on a table and do decline pushups too.
Grab two folding chairs and do some dips as well.



k:P

any answer on my other questions?

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RE: Training help and question - Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:46 PM

ORIGINAL: Bradley123

k:P

any answer on my other questions?

 
You just started training 2 weeks ago.  Don’t expect a sixpack any time soon.  Tight abs are hard to get and easy to lose.  It is mainly a matter of diet anyway.
Decrease the soy protein, increase the egg protein.
BTW:  I recommend sleeping every day, not just Sundays and sometimes Wednesdays.
 

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RE: Training help and question - Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:54 PM

ORIGINAL: Bradley123

Hi, ok so im 183~ tall and my weight is around 85kilo, no im not fat.

I made a topic before which can be found here: http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/Training_Question_in_need_of_help/m_400265/tm.htm

My question is i been training like that for 2weeks, (i know that might not be enough) but only difference is i lost some weight and "baby fat" around my face, more.. "tight" body?

But well how long does it take to gain a sixpack^^? I mean im not happy with the result. I thought i would see a bigger difference after 2 weeks. Sure the difference IS visible pretty much but not enough:P

I am a vegetarian i eat soy & egg daily
No im not on any type of diet except i dont eat candy / fast food or drink any kind soda's
I sleep on sundays & sometimes wendsdays

Also i dont train at gym all my training is at home on the floor.
Also one of my friends told me i need to go to gym to gain a sixpack & real muscle's :S is that true? cause i cant really afford a gym card.

Also could anyone tell me how to train chest muscle's properly :)?


hahaha this is what i was just talking about

dude, 2 weeks is NOTHING.  i bet you're doing the same workout and bodyparts everyday, right?

sorry, but these make me sick.  those guys at the gym that LIVE next to the ab machines. and the guys that come in, bench, do some curls, walk over to the ab machines, then leave.  only to come back and do the same thing the next day.

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RE: Training help and question - Friday, July 11, 2008 6:41 AM

ORIGINAL: boomersooner1331


ORIGINAL: Bradley123

Hi, ok so im 183~ tall and my weight is around 85kilo, no im not fat.

I made a topic before which can be found here: http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/Training_Question_in_need_of_help/m_400265/tm.htm

My question is i been training like that for 2weeks, (i know that might not be enough) but only difference is i lost some weight and "baby fat" around my face, more.. "tight" body?

But well how long does it take to gain a sixpack^^? I mean im not happy with the result. I thought i would see a bigger difference after 2 weeks. Sure the difference IS visible pretty much but not enough:P

I am a vegetarian i eat soy & egg daily
No im not on any type of diet except i dont eat candy / fast food or drink any kind soda's
I sleep on sundays & sometimes wendsdays

Also i dont train at gym all my training is at home on the floor.
Also one of my friends told me i need to go to gym to gain a sixpack & real muscle's :S is that true? cause i cant really afford a gym card.

Also could anyone tell me how to train chest muscle's properly :)?


hahaha this is what i was just talking about

dude, 2 weeks is NOTHING.  i bet you're doing the same workout and bodyparts everyday, right?

sorry, but these make me sick.  those guys at the gym that LIVE next to the ab machines. and the guys that come in, bench, do some curls, walk over to the ab machines, then leave.  only to come back and do the same thing the next day.


I dont train at a gym, i train at home as i said.

>dude, 2 weeks is NOTHING.  i bet you're doing the same workout and bodyparts everyday, right?

Yea :O except now haven't trained for 2 days now due to sickness:(
But i train pushups both military and with hands in middle, situps with legs in air,running,and 7kg .. .. i don't know the English word for it but those  iron things u got in hand.

I cant afford gymcard yet^^

>You just started training 2 weeks ago.  Don’t expect a sixpack any time soon.  Tight abs are hard to get and easy to lose.  It is mainly a matter of diet anyway.
Decrease the soy protein, increase the egg protein.
BTW:  I recommend sleeping every day, not just Sundays and sometimes Wednesdays.

I sleep everyday 9-11 hours but when i said sleeping i mean i don't train^^:D
>
Decrease the soy protein, increase the egg protein.
Why? Isn't soy good? i heard somewhere its like 60% protein and i heard it on this forum.
Btw i drink egg's everymorning before i train but a vegetarians main consumation is soy so it will be hard to decrease it.. :O


But yesterday my friend told me that pushups and situps wont make any diffrence and that i NEED a gym to get the result i want. But sure he must be wrong? our trainers at boxing looks like they are made out of muscle and they tell us situps and pushups are good and easy.

Anyways boomersooner1331 could you give me some tips please? thanks :)



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RE: Training help and question - Friday, July 11, 2008 7:12 AM
Yea and also when you said diet is the main factor for abs, is running good for that?

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RE: Training help and question - Friday, July 11, 2008 7:44 AM
in order to see your abs you need to have a very low BF%.  beyond that exercises can be done to strengthen the abs in order to make them have a full look.  I personally do a 3 day full body split and dont directly focus on the Abs. 
 
what is your current diet like?  please post it so we can critique it.  every little bit will help in acheiving your goal.  2 weeks though is honestly not a  long time at all. 

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RE: Training help and question - Friday, July 11, 2008 9:04 AM
Yea like Neutralyze said, you have to remove the body fat. It's more about uncovering your abs than ab focused workouts. There was a study done by several universities that came to this conclusion

Stop doing crunches. Abdominal focused exercises such as crunches and the superman only partially activate the abdominals. The area is difficult to activate and maintain force production. Recent studies point away from such exercises to dynamic lifting activities. For example a weighted squat performed with good upright posture does more to work the midsection than crunches or the superman.
The take home message is to activate these muscles and to think about your abdominals while performing your other standing lifting exercises.

That's not to say you should never workout your abs. Have you tried these ab workouts? They are very good.

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RE: Training help and question - Friday, July 11, 2008 10:52 AM
if u are frustrated about not seeing enough gains after two weeks then i would quit the game alltogether buddy. bodybuilding or lifting in general comes down to a science and u are not going to get huge in two weeks. and not in two months either!
 
and soy protein im pretty sure increases ur estrogen levels which equals man boobies!
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