Cutting is that easy?

    Hey everyone!

Ok I might become obnoxious with that show but on the UFC i see the people cutting before their fights from like 185 to 170 in 2 days, that blows my mind because all they do is put a sweater on and hop on a bike and whatnot and just make their weight to fight.

Who does sometime I hear people on the forum saying they bulk on winter n cut for summer etc etc? why not bulk all time and just cut when you need to? Everyone has a bike, everyone has a sweater....

Is it because the ufc way they lose muscle on the process or anything? I don't understand, hmm

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

They put nearly all of it back on...

they just need to make whatever weight requirement for the weigh in, then most put as much back on as they can for the actual fight.

Thats what I have been told, I've trained but never actually done any organized fighting, so maybe im wrong

ORIGINAL: BodyBuildingNovice

Hey everyone!

Ok I might become obnoxious with that show but on the UFC i see the people cutting before their fights from like 185 to 170 in 2 days, that blows my mind because all they do is put a sweater on and hop on a bike and whatnot and just make their weight to fight.

Who does sometime I hear people on the forum saying they bulk on winter n cut for summer etc etc? why not bulk all time and just cut when you need to? Everyone has a bike, everyone has a sweater....

Is it because the ufc way they lose muscle on the process or anything? I don't understand, hmm

current 3x3 max's (Work in progress)
Squat:325
Deadlift:380
Bench:265
BB Row:225
My lifting journal
http://strengthmill.net/forum/showthread.php?p=16591#post16591

yea but that's not what I meant.

THey are 185 and they got 1 week to bring it to 170.. they've been slacking for the whole week long so they end up 2 days to go down 10 pounds, OMG ! IMPOSSIBLE I GOTTA MAKE THE WEIGHT! so they put their jackets on, hop on the treadmill or bike and just get going till they can't move anymore, 2 days after they do the weight.

Here people keep saying they'd like stuff to go faster but they take 2 whole seasons to cut/bulk?

If you do the maths, something is wrong...

2days 10 lb cut vs 2 seasons cut? hmm

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

You have around 20lbs of **** sitting in your intestines, these people are obviously roiding or PH ing, both of which are very good at cutting fat, they probaby take laxatives, and many vitamins to flush the entire body out, and also exercise to exhaustion for the 2 days to burn off as much as they can.
 
I can lose 10lbs of water weight after a night of heavy drinking, and even more once the beer sh!ts start coming.
 
Its not difficult, its just flushing the system of extra crap (literally) that you dont need.
 
Its not that healthy..
 
However i do agree that some people take way too long to cut around here, theyre too worried about losing muscle and as a result there calories are too high, ive seen some cutters here with 2500 calories, eh, its just not going to go that fast @_@
 
I dont mean go way low, but if its slow progress, knock of 250
 
when bulking the general advice is "add another 250 calories"
 
say "lower 250 calories" to a cutter and its sacrilige....I dont get it?? surely both logics work with each other perfectly?
 
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVNOiGBrBEo&feature=related

no roids there but I see where you're going

(nevermind the music)



PS: at 4:55 till the end is a really funny part

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

ORIGINAL: BodyBuildingNovice

   Hey everyone!

Ok I might become obnoxious with that show but on the UFC i see the people cutting before their fights from like 185 to 170 in 2 days, that blows my mind because all they do is put a sweater on and hop on a bike and whatnot and just make their weight to fight.

Who does sometime I hear people on the forum saying they bulk on winter n cut for summer etc etc? why not bulk all time and just cut when you need to? Everyone has a bike, everyone has a sweater....

Is it because the ufc way they lose muscle on the process or anything? I don't understand, hmm

hahaha no dude.  they lose water weight.  they sweat it all out so they can make their weight.  they don't actually lose fat or anything

but cutting can be easy, it just depends on how disciplined you are.  i can drop 10 pounds in 2 weeks or so.

but they're losing water weight, not fat

yah definitly water weight..but thats still a hella lot of water to lose in 2 days..
 

Bulking through atleast new years

lol are you serious?   its all water weight, could be **** like twisted said, and muscle. just a small amount of fat

and twisted you think everyone is on steroids. i think your on steroids and just want a good cover

My good friend is an MMA fighter...To cut weight, he doesnt eat, drinks very little, puts on a plastic sweat suit and rides a bike in the sauna for an entire day.  They literally carry him to the weigh in.  He has dropped about 20 lbs in a day, but puts it all on the next day.

Owner of two gym franchises in Virginia.

  I used to wrestle and now do powerlifting so I've cut weight like this before. It's all water weight, and sometimes when you have no water left there is senna(herbal laxative).

    I Just cut until I'm 2-3 lbs away then the rest of the weight will float off if i'm careful about eating and drinking the rest of the day. When I cut it usually consists of running with all of my swetpants and sweaters on with parachute pants and a windbreaker on top. I lift at 165 and usually weigh in at 162-163, but during the competition I weight around 170.The most I've dropped is 15 lbs in 1 day. But I have friends that have dropped 30 or more in 2 days.

If it wasn't painfully difficult then you didn't do it right

age:18
5' 81/2"
173 lbs
goal : 195


supplements: Multi, fish oil

ORIGINAL: HEARTS

  I used to wrestle and now do powerlifting so I've cut weight like this before. It's all water weight, and sometimes when you have no water left there is senna(herbal laxative).

   I Just cut until I'm 2-3 lbs away then the rest of the weight will float off if i'm careful about eating and drinking the rest of the day. When I cut it usually consists of running with all of my swetpants and sweaters on with parachute pants and a windbreaker on top. I lift at 165 and usually weigh in at 162-163, but during the competition I weight around 170.The most I've dropped is 15 lbs in 1 day. But I have friends that have dropped 30 or more in 2 days.

wow they must lose so much muscle.
doesnt that hurt your lifts when you powerlift though? i would think it would be more beneficial to stay in your weight class and build strength there

I only have to cut around 6 lbs for lifting and don't really lose any strength when I do.

If it wasn't painfully difficult then you didn't do it right

age:18
5' 81/2"
173 lbs
goal : 195


supplements: Multi, fish oil

ORIGINAL: connelly

yah definitly water weight..but thats still a hella lot of water to lose in 2 days..

 
nah, you've actually got alot of water in your body.  alot more than you think

ORIGINAL: David1991

ORIGINAL: HEARTS

I used to wrestle and now do powerlifting so I've cut weight like this before. It's all water weight, and sometimes when you have no water left there is senna(herbal laxative).

  I Just cut until I'm 2-3 lbs away then the rest of the weight will float off if i'm careful about eating and drinking the rest of the day. When I cut it usually consists of running with all of my swetpants and sweaters on with parachute pants and a windbreaker on top. I lift at 165 and usually weigh in at 162-163, but during the competition I weight around 170.The most I've dropped is 15 lbs in 1 day. But I have friends that have dropped 30 or more in 2 days.

wow they must lose so much muscle.
doesnt that hurt your lifts when you powerlift though? i would think it would be more beneficial to stay in your weight class and build strength there

It's better to train in a weight class and then cut 1-2 weight classes down. You gain a good bit of it back by the time you're in the ring as it's water weight and you can get in plenty of water and 2-3 meals between weigh in and fight depending on when they are.

One of the guys I train with (who's really good) trains at 177-182 and then cuts to 155 to fight. It's almost unfair how badly he beats on these guys who train at 160-165 and cut to 155.

I personally train at 125 but can cut down to the lowest class -105- for females for weigh in. By the time I step in the ring I'd be 118 at least.

5'6" 125/ Bench: 115 / Front squat: 90 / Deadlift: 205 / Pullups: 10

rippedchick what do you compete in?

so you dont find that cutting that much weight hurts performance/strength?

ORIGINAL: David1991

rippedchick what do you compete in?

so you dont find that cutting that much weight hurts performance/strength?

MMA and no not really.

5'6" 125/ Bench: 115 / Front squat: 90 / Deadlift: 205 / Pullups: 10

ORIGINAL: rippedchick

ORIGINAL: David1991

rippedchick what do you compete in?

so you dont find that cutting that much weight hurts performance/strength?

MMA and no not really.

No because you generally have time to put it back on and have a few good meals between weigh ins and the tournament, fight or match.

If it wasn't painfully difficult then you didn't do it right

age:18
5' 81/2"
173 lbs
goal : 195


supplements: Multi, fish oil

u think it's hard to get inside the ufc?

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

I was referring to mostly water weight, which is what everyone already elaborated on.

They train and fight at a higher weight but cut down to a targeted weight to give themselves an advantage...

One of my friends used to get big ol meals in and drink pedi-a-sure's those childrens vitamin drinks to get his weight back up.

ORIGINAL: BodyBuildingNovice

yea but that's not what I meant.

THey are 185 and they got 1 week to bring it to 170.. they've been slacking for the whole week long so they end up 2 days to go down 10 pounds, OMG ! IMPOSSIBLE I GOTTA MAKE THE WEIGHT! so they put their jackets on, hop on the treadmill or bike and just get going till they can't move anymore, 2 days after they do the weight.

Here people keep saying they'd like stuff to go faster but they take 2 whole seasons to cut/bulk?

If you do the maths, something is wrong...

2days 10 lb cut vs 2 seasons cut? hmm

current 3x3 max's (Work in progress)
Squat:325
Deadlift:380
Bench:265
BB Row:225
My lifting journal
http://strengthmill.net/forum/showthread.php?p=16591#post16591