Is sleep the same benefits at all times?

Pretty simple, Being a teenager in summer vacation I got caught up in that big maelstrom of waking up at 4 pm and going to bed at 5 am... hard to get out of it for some reason

I keep training no matter what and I know that training smart means getting enough rest, If i sleep from 10pm to 8 am or 5 am to 4 pm (it's probly not the same amount) the same kind of rest ? I heard that the sleep in midnight is ''enhanced'' or something like that?

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

Our bodies hormones and internal clock is set up to be asleep at night and awake in the day, to "flow" with nature as you wind down at night as the day winds down. Noon is the day's peak and so should the humans. I would think that not sleeping at the proper tmes will screw up the body's natural schedule.

But.....


You are a teenager so enjoy life! When your young you can abuse your body much easier than when your older.

Enjoy your youth, one day you'll wake up and ask, "Where did my youth go?"

People only regret what they DIDN'T DO, not what they did do.

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You are a teenager so enjoy life! When your young you can abuse your body much easier than when your older.

Enjoy your youth, one day you'll wake up and ask, "Where did my youth go?"

People only regret what they DIDN'T DO, not what they did do.

Indeed Indeed but then again I could also regret not going to bed when I actually should and realise I messed up my gains, AGAIN.


I guess It's because I just moved and my friends are kinda far now so it's not as easy to meet up and what not, not to mention I dumped my job (trying to get a new one, trying to find landscapping job atm) and everything is closed so basically i'm off on my own in my house with nothing to do but to... chill... so yea I guess that doesn't help.

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

sleep is sleep, are your cells repair hormones equipped with watches going "holy **** its 1pm, i aint doin this, this countries going downhill man"
 
....No?
 
thought so.
 
Sleep is sleep, yeah there might be a few studies saying people sleep better at night than day, and that whole melatonin thing has got everyones knickers in a twist, but what they dont tell you is the fact that the difference involved is like being 5'8.1" or 5'8.2" for analogous sakes
 
Its such a little amount its only measurable in lab conditions, which...is what they do...lol.

This type of stuff is nothing you should be worrying about.  As long as your consistent with your diet and training you'll be fine.  Your body knows when it needs to rest, and that's when you sleep.  If you find yourself tired all the time then you may not be getting enough rest, but if you're not tired, then your fine.  Staying up until 5 in the morning every night is fine, and you sleep all day, so you're still getting the rest you need. 
 
You're fine.

Squats are better than steroids

I remember when I had that sleep schedule...5am to 4pm   I miss it.  

Owner of two gym franchises in Virginia.

From what I understand, the most frequent contributor to ineffective sleep is the use of various drugs/medications to put oneself to sleep.  Whether benadryl, valium, alcohol, or pot, they all cause problems with your REM sleep, to one extent or another.  Not sure about these newer medications, like "lunesta" that get advertised on tv.

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People only regret what they DIDN'T DO, not what they did do.

 
That's definitely NOT TRUE!

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People only regret what they DIDN'T DO, not what they did do.

That's definitely NOT TRUE!

X2 but i get what he is saying..

Bulking through atleast new years

there was seriously a thread about this like less then a week ago.
 
but i cant find it, our search function sucks!

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bench:290 squat:405 deadlift:420

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that whole melatonin thing has got everyones knickers in a twist

 
Oh twisted, you're so british

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there was seriously a thread about this like less then a week ago.

but i cant find it, our search function sucks!

yah i just decided to quit using it it's worthless...

Bulking through atleast new years

It works if you're a boss.

Ugh, you guys just don't know how to use it.  I just found it in 5 seconds flat after reading those complaints

http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/m_397614/mpage_1/tm.htm#397614
 
BTW I never saw that thread before

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It works if you're a boss.

 
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Bench:205
Squat:225
DeadLift:235

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sleep is sleep, are your cells repair hormones equipped with watches going "holy **** its 1pm, i aint doin this, this countries going downhill man"

....No?

thought so.

You're dead wrong, mate! That is entirely untrue. Our body's totally respons better when sleep is done at the appropriate time. Seratonin and Melatonin levels adjust to darkness and certain times of the day. Just liek women have a biological clock, so do men. Your body does know the time. Not the number like its 2 AM or 3 AM, but it knows the general cycle of a da. The most intense energy is at noon and the lowest point is midnight.

Is it going to screw up gains at the gym? Once in a while no. I guarantee someone who works graveyard shift every night, will have a lot of health problems later on in life due to screwing up his body's natural cycles.

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sleep is sleep, are your cells repair hormones equipped with watches going "holy **** its 1pm, i aint doin this, this countries going downhill man"

....No?

thought so.

You're dead wrong, mate! That is entirely untrue. Our body's totally respons better when sleep is done at the appropriate time. Seratonin and Melatonin levels adjust to darkness and certain times of the day. Just liek women have a biological clock, so do men. Your body does know the time. Not the number like its 2 AM or 3 AM, but it knows the general cycle of a da. The most intense energy is at noon and the lowest point is midnight.

Is it going to screw up gains at the gym? Once in a while no. I guarantee someone who works graveyard shift every night, will have a lot of health problems later on in life due to screwing up his body's natural cycles.

I know that I don't feel like this at all!

I used to work nights bartending so I lifted at odd hours. If you're resting and eating enough, you'll be fine.

5'6" 125/ Bench: 115 / Front squat: 90 / Deadlift: 205 / Pullups: 10

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sleep is sleep, are your cells repair hormones equipped with watches going "holy **** its 1pm, i aint doin this, this countries going downhill man"

....No?

thought so.

You're dead wrong, mate! That is entirely untrue. Our body's totally respons better when sleep is done at the appropriate time. Seratonin and Melatonin levels adjust to darkness and certain times of the day. Just liek women have a biological clock, so do men. Your body does know the time. Not the number like its 2 AM or 3 AM, but it knows the general cycle of a da. The most intense energy is at noon and the lowest point is midnight.

Is it going to screw up gains at the gym? Once in a while no. I guarantee someone who works graveyard shift every night, will have a lot of health problems later on in life due to screwing up his body's natural cycles.

 
  How late in Life? I need to know. I've been working in the dark since you've been filling your diapers or better. I'm thinking what? 80-90? I'm on the verge of 50 and can run those day people my age over.....Lookout! Like Tommy Boy (the Late Chris Farley) said " I can take a sh*t in a box marked Guaranteed, all your getting is a guaranteed piece of Sh*t. Your body adapts, I'm walking proof.
 
WD

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Well whatever. Some people smoke till 95 and have no health problems. Doesn't mean smoking is not unhealthy. Study basic physiology of the body's circadium rhythms. It isn't healthy to go to sleep at 5 AM and wake up at 2 PM, and do this everyday. It just isn't healthy. It tweaks you out a bit. If you do it sometimes you can bounce back. If this is your regular routine, it just isn't healthy. But like rippedchick said, there are other factors involved liek diet and exercise and mental state and such.

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Well whatever. Some people smoke till 95 and have no health problems. Doesn't mean smoking is not unhealthy. Study basic physiology of the body's circadium rhythms. It isn't healthy to go to sleep at 5 AM and wake up at 2 PM, and do this everyday. It just isn't healthy. It tweaks you out a bit. If you do it sometimes you can bounce back. If this is your regular routine, it just isn't healthy. But like rippedchick said, there are other factors involved liek diet and exercise and mental state and such.

 
So they found these basic rythms In a study? A study useing people? People that woke up when the Sun came up? Or just night people? Hmmmmmm. I just need to know when it all catches up to me, so I can get my Doctor on retainer for just such a thing.
 
WD

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Please don't mock me.

I am medically trained, so I have studied this stuff. Not trying to brag, but anyone who takes even basic pysiology learns of this stuff.

In Alaska they have SAD. Seasonal Adjustment Disorder which is a type of depression, but not just ,mentally. The body kind of goes into a depressed state when its dark most of the day in the winter. Why is this? It has a lot to do with melatonin and seratonin levels. Soem neurotransmitters and hormones are light or dark dependant.

I'm not going to post studies like a jackass. But to deny our bodies daily and seasonal sycles is just plain ignorant of how th ebody works.

Don't respond with some stupid comment how you stay up late all the time and your still alive. Totally missing the point.

All I was doign was responding to the original question which is does sleep at different times mean anything. It actually 100% does.

I thought there was quite substantial evidence that Humans are bi-phase sleepers?
 
Meaning we should sleep more than once, like 2 or 3 little naps, sets of 2 hours or 3 hours...??
 
I get how our brains responds to lack of sunlight and it means our bodies chemical reactions are ready for sleep, i DO get that acujeremy, i know that too, im not medically trained, but i do have knowledge of this stuff.
 
What im simply trying to say is your body isnt simply going to ignore your sleeping just because its daytime, itl just take the body a little longer in a "transition" phase as it were to realise its sleeping and start its usual shi-bang.
 
Theres also curtains for the day, seriously you get the right curtains, cover up the entire window, pretty much hardly any light comes through anyway.
 
 

ORIGINAL: Acujeremy

Please don't mock me.

I am medically trained, so I have studied this stuff. Not trying to brag, but anyone who takes even basic pysiology learns of this stuff.

In Alaska they have SAD. Seasonal Adjustment Disorder which is a type of depression, but not just ,mentally. The body kind of goes into a depressed state when its dark most of the day in the winter. Why is this? It has a lot to do with melatonin and seratonin levels. Soem neurotransmitters and hormones are light or dark dependant.

I'm not going to post studies like a jackass. But to deny our bodies daily and seasonal sycles is just plain ignorant of how th ebody works.

Don't respond with some stupid comment how you stay up late all the time and your still alive. Totally missing the point.

All I was doign was responding to the original question which is does sleep at different times mean anything. It actually 100% does.

 
Living in the dark is totally different than sleeping during the day. I get a few hours of sunlight each day. I'm walking proof you don't have to sleep at night. 47 years old. I don't get sick. I can run 10 miles if needed. I bench near my body weight. I even look younger by staying out of the sun. I have not slept at night like a normal person since 1980. Three more years it will be 30 years. What gives?
 
WD

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ORIGINAL: Acujeremy

Please don't mock me.

I am medically trained, so I have studied this stuff. Not trying to brag, but anyone who takes even basic pysiology learns of this stuff.

Did they misspell the name on the book as well?

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Not just that but physiology shouldnt really be teaching about hormones and receptors and controls of such things, thats not physiology, thats molecular biology/biochem .
 
From my knowledge.....