Twisteds program journal

well time to close my old journal, it had its uses, and it showed loads of lean mass gain throughout the time, im happy, but time to add some serious mass
 
Right time to go on that program I mostly made myself (IBB lol)
 
I’ll start on cycle 1 even though I don’t need to lose anymore fat, but oh well, itl make for a better cycle 2.
 
Il be going to the gym tomorrow Thursday and Friday, no days between are off, but this is a one off, ive had TONNES of work (all plastering, im a dry liner too and plastering is harder lol) and basically, ive managed to accumulate nearly $1000 just in 5 days work (whos da man? LOL) so yeah, my diet is going to be R.O.C.K. F.U.C.K.I.N.G. S.O.L.I.D. and im gonna be treating myself big time.
 
Im going to be extremely strict with the routine too, no “but I like sticking to barbells” ****.
 
Every 4-6 weeks il change to isolation dumbbells for a while and back again.
I’ll change grips and speeds etc.
 
This routine I want to get to a good 3 cycle alternates, cycle 1 3 times ycle 2 3 times, that in total is around 6 months….so dayum!, but hey, I will do it, then il try out vdk’s HST, but if this program doesn’t work or starts to fail-il go straight to HST.
 
This is tommorows workout for chest tris and shoulders
 
Barbell bench (average/fast reps)
6-12-6-12-6-12
 
Hopeful weights are
 
132lbs for 12 normal grip
110lbs for 12 Very wide grip
155lbs for 6 normal grip (I could manage this last week, but with no spotter I had trouble pushing myself as I might have failed and nearly got there, il make sure to have a spotter tomorrow after reading about that footballer who crushed his neck, gyah)
132lbs for 6 very wide grip
 
dumbbell flys (slow reps)
 
10-8-10-8-10-8
 
hopeful weights are
 
18kg for 10 reps
20kg for 8 reps
 
bench dips (wide stance at all times, fast)
6-12-6-12-6-12
 
hopeful plates on legs are
 
66lbs for 12 reps
110lbs for 6 reps
 
dumbbell shoulder press (slow)
10-8-10-8-10-8
 
hopeful weights are
16kg for 10 reps
18kg for 8 reps
 
Notice also how my exercises go com-iso-com-iso
 
That’s 24 sets in total, 12 for chest, technical 18 for triceps but only 6 direct, and 6 for shoulders.
 
That’s a nice balanced start to the program methinks!
 

Can I join in too?

I mean my training is a little different but I will incorp the speed reps in after my regular sets and change around my squats a little bit..


aye never mind I will make my own adjust your routine a bit but still use the same foundation.

One more thing twisted... you really don't want to go over 16 sets bro... 24 is alot you did not mean that all in one day did you?...

Its your routine I will be silent...


({Edit})15 is actually a maximum for hard gainers... 16 would be pushing it... 24 really is alot... You may want to reconsider that maybe throw shoulders into another day. Then again that rule might apply to body parts in this case you are working 3 different ones.. Problem is your working your triceps secondary in each one which would put a total of almost 24 sets on top of your triceps "Not good"...
----------Thats just my input------------------------------------------------

I usually do 5-6 sets of bench, 3 sets of inclines, then 3 sets of dips and 3 sets of tricep kicbacks, totalling 15 sets...so yeah 24 secondary triceps being used is overkill...
 
Hmmm...well i can go 4-6 sets, il change the sets up
 
benchpress 6 sets
 
dumbell flys 4 sets
 
dips 6 sets
 
shoulders 4 sets
 
that makes 20, thats not much better, but we'll see.
 
dont worry IBB man my program is going to undergo major editations, thats why i posted it and wanted volunteers in the first place, to edit it and make it a damn decent and relatively flawless routine!
 
So any tips-i'll take them!

ORIGINAL: twistedlink

I usually do 5-6 sets of bench, 3 sets of inclines, then 3 sets of dips and 3 sets of tricep kicbacks, totalling 15 sets...so yeah 24 secondary triceps being used is overkill...

Hmmm...well i can go 4-6 sets, il change the sets up

benchpress 6 sets

dumbell flys 4 sets

dips 6 sets

shoulders 4 sets

that makes 20, thats not much better, but we'll see.

dont worry IBB man my program is going to undergo major editations, thats why i posted it and wanted volunteers in the first place, to edit it and make it a damn decent and relatively flawless routine!

So any tips-i'll take them!

dont worry IBB man my program is going to undergo major editations, thats why i posted it and wanted volunteers in the first place, to edit it and make it a damn decent and relatively flawless routine!

So any tips-i'll take them!

Its a little better. I am going to make a journal above yours with your routine as the foundation Like i stated.

Looks good though Just like i said try not to over kill the sets.

Yeah that is a problem...
 
with back day il be doing tonnes of sets though....so damn, then again back is a big muscle, and my biceps like to take a pounding (sounds so wrong! LOL)
 
we'll see, may have to change some stuff up.
 
Okay cool man!
 
I got raiden to make one too.
 
and toolman in 2 weeks time
 
odw might be doing it, he said he liked its ideas, thats a good 5 people, not too shabby!
 
The only problem is were all either meso or ecto so...lol...i really want an endo, because we get tonnes of endos here spending a year cutting down to just bulk up again, id love for my routine to shave off a good 5-7lbs of fat every 4 weeks of that 1st cycle so they could literally fluctuate in weight but be gaining muscle and losing fat, thatd ROCK.

ORIGINAL: twistedlink

Yeah that is a problem...

with back day il be doing tonnes of sets though....so damn, then again back is a big muscle, and my biceps like to take a pounding (sounds so wrong! LOL)

we'll see, may have to change some stuff up.

Okay cool man!

I got raiden to make one too.

and toolman in 2 weeks time

odw might be doing it, he said he liked its ideas, thats a good 5 people, not too shabby!

The only problem is were all either meso or ecto so...lol...i really want an endo, because we get tonnes of endos here spending a year cutting down to just bulk up again, id love for my routine to shave off a good 5-7lbs of fat every 4 weeks of that 1st cycle so they could literally fluctuate in weight but be gaining muscle and losing fat, thatd ROCK.

The only problem is were all either meso or ecto so...lol...i really want an endo, because we get tonnes of endos here spending a year cutting down to just bulk up again, id love for my routine to shave off a good 5-7lbs of fat every 4 weeks of that 1st cycle so they could literally fluctuate in weight but be gaining muscle and losing fat, thatd ROCK.

Lowered could be in between a meso / endo... stalloneis#1... He is an endo... Just ask one of them. I think they are both between endo / meso though because they are both really strong... Then again I guess strength does not entirely rely on muscle and they do tend to gain more fat then muscle on a bulk but can still cut down in size.

yeah il ask if them two are interested!
Ill PM them asap, however for now, i shall sleep, as its nearly midnight here and ive got a tough workout ahead of me tommorow!
 
I hope i can still manage 155lbs with all this time off ive had (but the moneys worth it, im filthy rich now haha)

Okay, have i got an update for you folks!
 
today was a surreal day.
 
On the way back home from the gym, two sovereign ring toting chavs decided to start a fight with me, heres how that went
 
1 was 5'10" 140lbs, the other was pretty much 6'0" and around 140lbs too, the shorter one shoulder barged me, and grabbed my shirt (suddenly while walking past them, wasnt ready for it) and started punching me in the chest and collar bone area, before he got his 3rd punch in, i grabbed his shoulder and headbutted him in the face-he let go, however as i withdrew my head the taller guy was behind my and landed a punch to the back of my head, and while turning around managed to get a 2nd one in the side of my head too.
 
At this point i got a major adrenaline rush, as you know, i swear a lot...Basically, i started screaming "****ING ****!" and grabbed him by the throat and squeezed real tight, he went to kick me and landed one in my leg, however i noticed his weakness of being on one leg-and put mine behind his and pushed him to the ground (my dad does this move on me in play wrestling, only playful neck gripping and he catches me before i fall to the ground lol) and here i didnt really care what the **** i did, so just did what i have said to do in a fight-i started stomping on his chest-his friend then decided to go for a 2nd attack, but i just basically punched him in the face twice and he went off.
 
I walked off and his friend got back up a couple seconds later and ran after his friend
 
 
Heres where this **** gets even more ****ing funky, 15 minutes later, again still on the way home
 
3 ****ING CHAVS start on me
they were all over 6'3" and all over 190lbs, so i thought "**** this ****" and ran for it, luckily was only 3 mins away from home.
 
this is the 2nd time ive outran a nearly 6'5" guy, i might time my running times, because i appear to be quite fast LOL.
 
I dont know if them two chavs phoned up them 3 to get me, ive seen that done before, in bars some chavs get phonecalls where there mates started a fight and lost and told the bar friends the direction of the winner, and they go and get him, so im not too sure, either way im feeling pretty sore everywhere, my face, my back, my chest, my arms, and my legs haha!
 
heres how the workout went
 
Bench (average/fast) NG/NG/WG/WG/NG/NG (normal grip/wide grip)
 
132lbs x 12
155lbs x 2 (went too fast, lost control too much and the bar went over my neck, felt a tad worried thanks to that article pappy posted and didnt have a spotter, so lowered the weight, but i could have done 155lbs really, was just kinda scared LOL)
143lbs x 6
110lbs x 12 (wide grip remember)
132lbs x 6
132lbs x 7(was meant to be 12 here, i was feeling pooped, so stopped)
 
5 sets in all, one part now to edit, n 5th set-lower the weight from the 1st and 2nd sets, the wide grip wears you out easy, and is best in the middle, NG for first 2 sets works the chest good, the next 2nd WG sets pump the crap out of your chest, the last 2 NG sets are there to feel fatigue and round off nice stress amounts, also ive had 1 1/2 weeks off benching-im glad ive kept my strength somewhat.
 
dumbell flys (slow)
18kg for 10
20kg for 8
18kg for 10
20kg for 8
 
completed fully
 
tricep bench dips
kept grips same here, wide stanced, and did a 12-6-12-6-12-6 routines with 66lbs and 110lbs for the first 2 sets, then went to 44-88lbs for the last one
 
the lower weight for higher reps and higher weight for lower reps obviously
 
dumbell shoulder press
10-8-10-8
14kg and 16kg
 
fully completed
 
todays been weird, and good....funky!
 

Wow, what a scene, lol! Are you sure you're not the one starting the fight? I've never encountered anything like this before. I reckon you did something to piss them off. Why would they just randomly come up to you, like that? 

Anyways, that's alot of work for the chest. Are you doing that 1x or 2x a week? Since I started doing less sets and doing it 3x a week, I reckon it's provided much more stimulus, and quoting from HST, lol,

The downside of taking a week of "recovery" every time you load a muscle is that many of the acute (immediate) responses to training, like increased protein synthesis, prostaglandins, IGF-1 levels, and mRNA levels, all return to normal in about 36 to 48 hours. So, you spend two days growing and half a week in a semi-anticatabolic state returning to normal. (Some people call this recovery.) Research shows us that recovery can take place unabated even if the same muscle is loaded again in 48 hours.

Just another thing, are you going to try and replace your bench dips with parallel dips? I was originally going to do parallel but I resorted to bench because I didn't have much strength for parallel dips. However I think they put too much pressure on my shoulders cos I go too far, but anyways I have switched back to close-grip..

lol, theyre chavs vdk, i got chased by 5 guys before for no reason, they do it for fun, or to get money when youre knocked out, it happens a lot round here, happened to NQ in canada too.
 
You're lucky not to have inbred retards go after random people LOL.
 
Only once a week, i did 5 sets and another 4, thats 9, i usually do around the 9-12 mark on chest day but monday and friday, however this workout certainly does wear the crap out of you.
I did do a little bash of doing bench 3 times a week, and it did actually get me stronger somewhat, it what made me go from 132lbs x 2 ish to 7 reps, so i like the HST routine youre on, but right now i wanna test out my program to full effect, afterwards il add HST in and do it, i honestly will.
 
That is an interesting quote, i personally agree with it, i have never known where people here get there "1 week recovery is needed" information because ive never actually seen any biological or article evidence to suggest that unless youre a newb and get sore for like 6 days lol.
If its not sore-work it.
 
I will definitely try out HST! It seems like a very decent workout.
 

As to parallel dips-they put too much pressure on my elbows, i prefer bench dips, and i go down until my elbow and upper arm go at exactly 45 degrees, its usually enough to get the triceps reacting.
 

Yea....I've always followed that one week per muscle and to be honest I don't think I've made enough gains. I reckon I'll probably make much better gains after my 1st cycle. I'm definitely getting a photo taken on Sat, so yea..you can see how skinny I am, I'll post them in the Journal. Those 3kg's that I lost are bloody hard to gain back, so I set myself basically back by like 3 months or more. I'll post my photo in my journal for the first time!!! :D.

twisted, I know you said you don't have a set nutrition plan, so basically you eat mainly pasta, chicken, tuna, nuts, oil right? How many meals do you eat a day? I basically eat 5 meals a day, but now since I have a post-workout drink which means I delay my meal 1hr later, I find it hard to finish all my meals for the day. I try to avoid eating after 8pm, as my stomach always feel full when it gets to that time, I think it's basically from eating too much for dinner...

btw, how many people so far have you gathered to starting your 'program'?

lol Twisted you must know some huge guys in the gym who you can phone when chavs attack, I call my friends and they hunt anyone who attacks me down. Also I'm starting the journal now, not started Twisted's program yet but I'm going to soon.

ORIGINAL: vdk_au

Wow, what a scene, lol! Are you sure you're not the one starting the fight? I've never encountered anything like this before. I reckon you did something to piss them off. Why would they just randomly come up to you, like that? 

Anyways, that's alot of work for the chest. Are you doing that 1x or 2x a week? Since I started doing less sets and doing it 3x a week, I reckon it's provided much more stimulus, and quoting from HST, lol,

The downside of taking a week of "recovery" every time you load a muscle is that many of the acute (immediate) responses to training, like increased protein synthesis, prostaglandins, IGF-1 levels, and mRNA levels, all return to normal in about 36 to 48 hours. So, you spend two days growing and half a week in a semi-anticatabolic state returning to normal. (Some people call this recovery.) Research shows us that recovery can take place unabated even if the same muscle is loaded again in 48 hours.

 
happens all the time mate everyon seems to ave somthing to prove chavs just randomly start on people to prove them selves. you live in austrailia, and my mate says nothing like that ever happens they just run away straight away lol

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I usually snack during the day between 3 main meals, fast metabolism, 5-6 meals a day would just speed it up to even more annoying levels.
 
so far definites
 
IBB
toolman
raiden
me LOL.
 
hopefuls
odw
lowred
stallone (has been around a lot, and is easily sidetracked so dont know if hed be useful....)
 
I kinda dont know many guys from the gym, i do my own thing really, sometimes talk to guys.
 
If any serious **** goes down i just get my 6'7" 320lbs friend to do some damage control
 
seriously UK sucks...

well my chest is DAMN SORE!
 
I dont know if thats good or bad-we'll see next week, or tommorow if its not too sore to train
 
ive decided to still perform benchpress on fridays though, doing 2 leg exercises then 1 ab exercise is just tedious and not really worth going all the way into town to do that 30 minute workout, so im throwing in chest in there, because ive seen better results with exercises closer than 1 weeks rest (why i think im going to like HST!)
 
On the upside, i reckon i can perform 155lbs for 8 reps maybe, fresh, that set where i got 2 i just went a tad too fast and screwed up the stabiliser abilities and didnt wanna push my luck LOL.
Im hoping to be able to do 176lbs for 6 reps by august
 
todays workout
 
Deadlift(slower than usual, NG,NG,CG,CG,NG,NG, NG involved normal stance, CG involved wide stance)
12-155lbs
6-200lbs
12(CG)-132lbs
6(CG)-176lbs
12-155lbs
6-200lbs
 
lat pulldowns(wide-V wide-wide-V wide, 2 second hold at each rep, fast power motion)
10-115lbs
8-130lbs
10-115lbs
7-130lbs (dang! my lats were burning!)
 
bentover barbell rows (slow, NG NG WG WG NG NG)
12-66lbs
6-77lbs
12-66lbs
6-77lbs
12-77lbs
6-88lbs
 
Biceps (slow motion preacher dumbells)
10-12kg
8-14kg
10-14kg
8-16kg
 
 
End of workout, 20 sets total again.
 
Im seriously actually am liking this routine, and it could be biasy, but i have made my own routines before and thought "nah this sucks" and stopped, so dunno lol.

I was not even thinking about the sets and I did 16 lol.. Still in my target range muhahaha.

I think working chest with bi's is smarter with this routine though that way your still able to hammer out your max potential weight without the rows and pulls wearing your bi's down.

Just another theory ":) Keep doing what your doing! BTW your bench has gotten soo much stronger since last year. You should target your lats now.. See how strong you can get them keep adding weight to the stack each week like we did with the bench. I know thats what I am going to do now.

lol, other people can edit to that, for me, its hard to wear down my biceps
 
It takes around 25-30 sets before i start noticing lack of strength in biceps, its my job, got killer endurance in my arms

Smith squats (fast, WS/WS/NS/NS/WS/WS wide stance and narrow stance)
12-176lbs
6-200lbs
12-132lbs
6-155lbs
12-176lbs
6-200lbs
 
lunges (slow, no possible alterations other than this)
10-18kg dumbells
8-20kg dumbells
10-18kg dumbells
8-20kg dumbells
 
ab crunches with plates being held (for 12 reps, 4 reps fast, 4 reps slow, 4 reps fast again, each 4th rep holding mid position for 3 seconds for major ab squeeze)
12-44lbs plate
6-60lbs dumbell
12-44lbs plate
6-60lbs dumbell
12-44lbs plate
 
didnt do 6th set was feeling too worn out
 
didnt do chest this friday because chest is still super sore.

ORIGINAL: twistedlink

Smith squats (fast, WS/WS/NS/NS/WS/WS wide stance and narrow stance)
12-176lbs
6-200lbs
12-132lbs
6-155lbs
12-176lbs
6-200lbs

lunges (slow, no possible alterations other than this)
10-18kg dumbells
8-20kg dumbells
10-18kg dumbells
8-20kg dumbells

ab crunches with plates being held (for 12 reps, 4 reps fast, 4 reps slow, 4 reps fast again, each 4th rep holding mid position for 3 seconds for major ab squeeze)
12-44lbs plate
6-60lbs dumbell
12-44lbs plate
6-60lbs dumbell
12-44lbs plate

didnt do 6th set was feeling too worn out

didnt do chest this friday because chest is still super sore.

careful of the tendons with fast squats bro.. My left knee is still messed up. So may want to keep the weight down on that.

This work out looked good BTW

Oh i dont mean too fast, when i say fast i mean just 1-2 seconds faster than average (my average is 5 secs) and slow is 1-2 seconds slower than average.
 
Id never perform a true "fast rep" because theyre dangerous.
 
every speed is relative lol.
 
 

Okay today wasnt good, didnt workout, fiancee had a weird migrane thing and went temporarily blind in her right eye and i had to walk her to work because she could hardly see, and kept telling her she shouldnt go to work, but stayed at home and asked her to phone me if she wants me to pick her up if it gets worse, and as id be over an hour away if i went to the gym-i decided not to go.
 
But tommorow is business as usual, chest and tris.
 
I want to hit 143lbs slowly for 8 reps, maybe 148.5lbs

I LOVE MY AGE RIGHT NOW!!
 
I am going through some form of test hike, and im ****ing LOVING IT, ive gone from 160-161lbvs last month to a now solid 168lbs, and im getting TONNES stronger, todays lifts just felt like a piece of piss, i just didnt seem to run out of energy, i was there for 1 hr 20 minutes and i just felt like doing another hour, i didnt feel worn out AT all. Its great!
 
benchpress
 
Rather than changing grips, i thought id just utilise an entire exercise into wide grip AND slow, as usual, wide grip means less poundage, not in my case, i have got SERIOUSLY stronger, even on wide grip and slow reps i managed to bust out these wicked lifts.
 
(12 6 last time so 10 8 this time)
 
132lbs x 10 (PISS EASY)
143lbs x 8 (PISS EASY)
137.5lbs x 10 (STILL EASY)
148.5lbs x 8 (Started to feel a tad worn out, but i still managed the 8 pretty easily.)
 
I reckon i could push out 155lbs for 10 reps pretty easily on standard grip, i reckon i can now MAYBE max out on 200lbs
 
the big 200!
 
Thing is i didnt have a spotter-so ****.
 
I then did some HST lol, even though il be doing them tommorow, i started deadlifts.
 
132lbs warmup
220lbs for 12 reps (EASY)
265lbs for 1 rep (dont know what happened here LOL)
 
Incline dumbells for 12 and 6 (IM GETTING ****ING STRONG STRONG STRONG BITCHES!!!)
 
I used to do 10-8-6 (which failed to 10-8-4-) at 45lbs 50lbs and 55lbs dumbells.
Heres my new strength
 
50's for 12 reps
60's for 6 reps
50's for 12 reps
60's for 6 reps
 
Slow as well
 
Kept to 4 sets
 
No direct tricep or shoulder work today, bench and incline bench is enough
 
I then went on to do preacher curls (dumbell)
 
2 sets of 10-8 reps with 30's for 10 and 35's for 8 with fast motion
 
preacher curls (barbell)
2 sets
1 set of 12 at a whopping 80lbs
1 set of 10 at a whopping 100 ****ING LBS BABY!
 
 
Im feeling severely energetic, heres the crazier part, ive been off creatine for 4 days now, because i havent been working out much i postponed it temporarily, back on it tommorow though.
 
 
I LOVE MY NEW GAINS!
 
At this rate il probably start slowing down at 175lbs (same bodyfat) and have HOPEFULLY a 220lbs bench max
maybe nearly 400lbs deadlift max
and be curling the oh so wanted 110lbs so i can use the big daddy plates and have people watching going "**** he curls more than i bench!!)
 
Oh yes, twistedlink is finally getting them ****ing gains ive been bitching about not getting for years.
 
I dont know whats gonna happen when i reach mid twenties, or thirties, men just get beastly in my family at 30, and if im already 220lbs 6-8% Bodyfat by age 30 (im aiming to get to that aged 25) im going to add on tonnes of mass
 
If my dad can manage 275lbs (around 230-235lbs lean mass) and is 2 1/2" taller, and doesnt even LIFT WEIGHTS OR DIET TO GAIN MASS
 
Then i have the genetic capability to maybe reach as high as 250lbs 6-8% Bodyfat, it will take YEARS, and the gains will be SLOOOOW (like 5lbs a year from constant hard work)
 
But me at around 230lbs lean mass, thats insane, i want to be less than 230lbs including fat, and i could get to weigh more just by lean body mass.
 
Its years away, and who knows, but im feeling great, and im glad ive got my genetics ROFL.

wooooo!

did 6 sets of deadlift last week, and as i did 3 yesterday, thought id go to only 4 sets today, of 10-8-10-8 at a RELATIVELY fast rep pace this time having wide grip/narrow grip
 
wide grip is HARD
 
but you can feel it good in your back/lats and traps
 
176lbs wide grip for 10
200lbs narrow grip for 8
176lbs wide grip for 10
220lbs narrow grip for 8
 
 
did fast power lat pulldowns last time, so today did slow reps, 12-6-12-6-12, 3 second hold
115lbs for 12 normal grip
130lbs for 6 wide grip
100lbs for 12 V wide grip
130lbs for 6 wide grip
115lbs for 12 normal grip
 
bentover barbell rows
 
10-8-10-8 power reps, NG/WG/NG/WG
 
100lbs for 10
90lbs for 8
100lbs for 10
90lbs for 8
 
pullups-3 sets of 5
 
My chest is feeling sore again, but its being accompanied by good strength gains...Im definitely at the stage where 132lbs is an easy 15 reps, im gonna have to start utilising 143lbs for 10 reps now, and 155lbs for 8, maybe even 148.5lbs for 10 and 160lbs for 8
 
Im pretty sure i can now get 176lbs 3 times
187lbs 2 times
and 198lbs (I round up to 200lbs on this lol) for 1 rep
 
 
 

I want your goddamn genetics.
 
 
 
Anyway, I've got tomorrow and only one more muscle group left to work, which would be my back, so saying my chest isn't sore at all today, and more than likely won't be the rest of the week, I can re do Chest & Shoulders? Twice a week, but I'm nice and healed up, I do believe.

The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible.

bench numbers looking good.

Yeah, finally did that 200lbs, i have been working out guys rather than slumbering around haha, i just dont have much time to put it all here, get tired easily lately and meh, eating vast amounts of food isnt easy, my weights jumping up like mad, and my bodyfat is staying the same, cycle 1 is meant to lower bodyfat but mines staying strong at 6.5%
 
I think 6.5% is my natural genetic lowest right now, as ive only been 6% once, and thats when i got the worst flu ive ever had and was hallucinating and dizzy and ****, worst time of my life, didnt eat for 4 days solid-so yeah, i wont be going any lower than 6.5% ever probably, and i dont wanna either, 6.5% is shredded enough
 
6.5% looks good on a 160lbs frame
 
6.5% looks SICK on a 171lbs frame
 
Of course everytime i add weight and my bodyfat stays at 6.5%-i am adding fat, but i dont care LOL.
 
Right now im willing to go to 10% Bodyfat, i strip it off easy.
 
 
I used to post tonnes of piccys every now and then, because my gains were average and i was pleased etc etc, now im getting uber fast gains i wanna wait until 200lbs before posting any new ones, so its like "yeah hes lean, looks good" and then one spring/summers morning 2008 BAM, 200lbs twisted in your face and a "OH MY ****ING GOD"
 
I promise all of you to be benching 315lbs max when im 200lbs
I promise all of you to be deadlifting 440lbs+ for max when im 200lbs
I promise all of you to be squatting 395lbs for max when im 200lbs
 
 
considering right now im only 115lbs off that bench max
80lbs off that deadlift max
and 110lbs off that squat max (smith though, so realistically right now my max is probably lower than even 220lbs...which is cry worthy)
 
Yeah i can do that, ive got another 29lbs of lean mass to add, should take 1 year with standard gains, 3/4 with my current speed of gains.