best strength/endurance supplement (for military)

New guy here, I need a good supplement that will help with building purely strength and endurance.  What I don't need is something that simply bulks me up and increases muscle growth without the optimum impact on strength and endurance, and that's why I posted this, so you all can help me avoid that.  I'm looking for sheer functionality here, I want to be the best soldier I can be and have the easiest time in basic training in December.  Don't get me wrong, I need to bulk up definately, I simply want a working supplement that is best at strength building, and if I get even more cut and get bigger, then that's great.
 
I took NO2, and it did me alright.  It wasn't as great as it was hyped up to be, but I was surprised that I did see some results.  I went in to buy some today, and the worker at GNC magically convinced my idiot self to waste money on Anator P70, which was ripped to shreds on this forum.  I'll probably return it tommorrow.
 
Anyway, any suggestions from you brilliant BB gurus would be more than appreciated.

to be completely honest theres nothing thats gonna prepare you for the army or any other part of the military other than the training they give you thats someone coming from a family with alot of military background but you should look in to doing body weight excersizes pullups pushups and im sure you know others for supps try creatine first

dont rely on supps.  if your looking to increase strength, dont do bodyweight exercises.  do compound lifts for 3-6 reps per set.
 
the best compounds are:
bench press
squat
dead lift
military press(appropriate for this situation, lol)
bent over rows
pull ups
seated rows

I go to the gym because I think there are a lot of muscles that bodyweight excercises don't build.  Otherwise the GI's probably wouldn't be going to the gym after BT, they'd be doing the same old thing.
 
Avaric, if by "rely" you mean not working out, I work out everytime I'm on supplements.  In any case, I can't see why a supplement would hurt, unless there are no supplements that really help with building strength/endurance.  Thanks for the advice on compound reps, I'm trying to come up with a good plan.  Before I usually did 4 sets of 10 reps for excercises, never making it to the last rep, but I'm trying to vary my excercises.
 
Any other supplement advice out there would be appreciated.

I'd look into Creatine Ethyl Ester formulas like Xceed or the Xpand tablets.

for endurance creatine blows hard, it is not designed for it and may cuase cramping.

what I recomend, Carbs, carbs, and more carbs. caffeine, you had success with nitric oxide, so mabey a preworkout supp that uses caffeine and NO (no-xplode, shock therapy, NO-shotgun, Superpump 250, and many many others)

gakic from what I hear has also done quite well interms of strength.

MRM Driven and Body Octaine may also be what your looking for. Great for endurace and bulk mono\cee would be a good stack with either or.

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supplement with some glutamine...good for recovery time and strength

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actually yeah the best thing you can do it get good recovery supps. eat ALOT I mean ALOT and caffeine or something like MRM Driven. if you are running stay away from creatine.

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Avaric3, if by "rely" you mean not working out, I work out everytime I'm on supplements. 

relying on supps doesnt mean that you dont workout, it just means that you think that if you dont use supps, you cant get great gains.

YOu can use the same supps for both purposes, it is how you apply it, how you apply diet and the working out to make them all balance together for your end result.
5-6 meals per day, clean foods, consistency in cardio and if you need to supplement you do it for reasons because you are lacking something or have diet restrictions, otherwise balance the diet.  Check out Dans Threads, he has some great info there on meal planning, also the nutrition stickies.
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I was in the Army for 5 years and they will train you. If you want to make things easier for yourself then do lots of push-ups, sit-ups and running because thats all you'll do. You need to train for endurance, not strength. 

Boy are you getting alot of ignorant B.S. from these hosers. First of all Stallone lover. There are many things that this fine Gentleman can do to prepare for a future in the Military. Also, body weight exercises can be some of the best exercises you can do Avaric. Pull ups are one of the single most effective strength and endurance exercises known to man. Once you can do over twenty-five pull ups, climbing a rope, a rock, a wall, a fence, an obstacle course, etc., will be like a walk down the street. Pull ups bulk up your biceps, your lats, and your forearms. To a lesser degree, your pecs your stomach, and virtually every muscle above your waist. It will also give you a cardio workout tougher than just about anything. Once you get into the higher reps that is. And of course you'll have to do supersets for cardio. Pushups? Hello! You're a new recruit right? I think being able to do tons of pushups BEFORE the drill sargeant makes you do them will be in your best interest. Not to mention the fact that you CAN get a huge chest and shoulders and triceps with pushups. You don't need heavy weights to build muscle. I'm not knocking weights of course, just making a reply to Avaric who says "Don't do bodyweight exercises." What a tool. And you Stallone lover. What's up with that? The guy has done so many ROIDS his face has actually deformed. (Have you seen his latest Rocky movie? He looks like a caricature of himself) Not to mention getting busted in the airport for possession of roids. How 'bout helping this guy "newrecruit" out instead of giving him bad advice.

I could go on forever but I won't. I'll just add one more thing for now "newrecruit". I only know of one supplement that works. (In my experience) It's called Ultra Fuel by Twinlab. There are other makers of similar stuff but I don't remember their name/s. I guarantee you. Use Ultra fuel BEFORE your next run up to about five or six miles and drink some during if you're going farther. This stuff will increase your stamina so much you'll think you've done speed. There are NO stimulants in this stuff though so no worries. Just complex carbs, vitamins, and electrolytes. I understand whey protein is very good stuff as well but I've never been able to positively correlate using them with any strength or size increases. I think they probably are necessary though. Unless of course you have a fantastic diet. O.K. That's enough for now.

Good luck newrecruit and thank you for defending our freedom.

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  Not to mention the fact that you CAN get a huge chest and shoulders and triceps with pushups. You don't need heavy weights to build muscle. I'm not knocking weights of course, just

 
When you get to the point that 25 pushups, is a breeze....You need to move-on to free weights to build lots of MASS on your chest, shoulders, and triceps......

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You haven't paid attention Mr. BIGSWOLE. (I don't even want to know where that somewhat disgusting handle came from.) My writing was in reply to "NewRecruit" who wanted to know what he could do before entering the armed forces to make his situation better. Also to comment on the some of the lame responses he received, like yours. Pull ups are not for shoulders, chest, and triceps. Have you ever done a pullup?It's a pulling exercise, not one conducive to shoulder, chest, and tricep growth. They will also help newrecruit in his basic training wherein climbling ropes, scaling walls and obstacles, and just plain general brute strength is necessary. I've been a gym rat for many years. In those years seeing a person that's got contest sized girth do more than a four or five correct pullups (All the way up, and all the way down. Not up & down five inches like most I've seen.) has been rare or nonexistent. NewRecruit wanted specific information that would make his transition into the armed forces the best it could be. Giant pecs are not what this guy needs. They won't help him evade danger on the battlefield. Pay attention. Or is your brain too scrambled on steroids to do so? A hint. If you find yourself thinking of how you can find me so that you can ATTEMPT to do me bodily harm because of my writing, you've probably got "RoidRage".

Until next time, Smartass.

P.S. "Life is so much more gratifying when the image you find in the mirror is not first and foremost in your life." I like to look good as much as anyone, but when the size of your pecs is more important than dodging a bullet, you might just want to reexamine a few things.

Dumb ass me. I was the one not paying attention. In part it was me that is. BigSwole commented on PUSHUPS, not PULLUPS. So I went off for nothing. However, he was also mistaken. I didn't talk of twenty-five pushups which is what he commented on. (That's nothing by the way. When you can do over a hundred your starting to kick ass) I talked of twenty-five PULLUPS. O.K. I'm off to wipe the egg from my face. (The face that's not covered in ACNE due to steroid use that is.)

Damn I hate making stupid mistakes.

theres absoluty nothing wrong with taking creatine as far as strength and endurance go. if u do cramp/bloat from mono then go another route. i highyl reccomend a product such as green Magnitude (or if ur stomache is realllllly sensitive green bulge pills).  I would reccomend a stack such as whiteflood/greenmag/purplewraath and a good whey protien.  this covers, pre-workout energy/creatine/BCAA/EAA's and protien. u dont need anyting else.  If u decide u dont want creatine (and please dont base that on what these other people have said, creatine is FINE in ur case) or stimulant based energy then i wouild just go with the purple wraath or xtend.

ORIGINAL: smartass

You haven't paid attention Mr. BIGSWOLE. (I don't even want to know where that somewhat disgusting handle came from.) My writing was in reply to "NewRecruit" who wanted to know what he could do before entering the armed forces to make his situation better. Also to comment on the some of the lame responses he received, like yours. Pull ups are not for shoulders, chest, and triceps. Have you ever done a pullup?It's a pulling exercise, not one conducive to shoulder, chest, and tricep growth. They will also help newrecruit in his basic training wherein climbling ropes, scaling walls and obstacles, and just plain general brute strength is necessary. I've been a gym rat for many years. In those years seeing a person that's got contest sized girth do more than a four or five correct pullups (All the way up, and all the way down. Not up & down five inches like most I've seen.) has been rare or nonexistent. NewRecruit wanted specific information that would make his transition into the armed forces the best it could be. Giant pecs are not what this guy needs. They won't help him evade danger on the battlefield. Pay attention. Or is your brain too scrambled on steroids to do so? A hint. If you find yourself thinking of how you can find me so that you can ATTEMPT to do me bodily harm because of my writing, you've probably got "RoidRage".

Until next time, Smartass.

P.S. "Life is so much more gratifying when the image you find in the mirror is not first and foremost in your life." I like to look good as much as anyone, but when the size of your pecs is more important than dodging a bullet, you might just want to reexamine a few things.

 
Dumb ass me. I was the one not paying attention. In part it was me that is. BigSwole commented on PUSHUPS, not PULLUPS. So I went off for nothing. However, he was also mistaken. I didn't talk of twenty-five pushups which is what he commented on. (That's nothing by the way. When you can do over a hundred your starting to kick ass) I talked of twenty-five PULLUPS. O.K. I'm off to wipe the egg from my face. (The face that's not covered in ACNE due to steroid use that is.)

Damn I hate making stupid mistakes.

WOW, I say one comment and you post a whole f'n book about insulting me, my handle, calling my responses lame, even accuse me of taking roids.......It was plain to see that I was stating that the best way to gain Mass on chest,Shoulders, and triceps was free weight, If you can easily do 25 pushups, I simply suggest moving to Free Weights "if you want" serious Mass...Which I know of no Fitness or Bodybuilders that main excercise for chest is pushups.....And you said something about he needs strength, not big pecs...which actually contradicts the whole mass issue that I commented on....Besides doing  100 pushups is building endurance (Little strength), this is why Strong Men, and Power Lifters do not train by doing pushups....Even though I just got disrespected big time, Im not lowering my self to that Level Im just simply defending my answer......Have a Blessed day

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