Zero sugar soft drinks, are they ok?

I am currently on a strict diet to lose weight (dropped 8kgs in about 4 months) and a few weeks ago I came across a soft drink that claimed that it had ZERO sugar. I thought, they must be joking. I looked on the back and saw "5.3kJ per serving", and I though "What! 5300kJ per serving?! What a joke". But when i checked again, i realised that it was ONLY 5.3kJ per serving. Other soft drinks are around 1000kJ per serving.

So anyway, my question is, is it alright for me to drink this while on a diet? It has very low calories, but is there always that problem of it actually BEING a "soft drink"? Thanks.

soft drink = soda

Look at the ingredents.  Obviously it is not optimal and if there is sugar, it will effect your fat loss...maybe consume after your workout during the PWO carb window.
 
One every now and then..2 a week say..would not be terrible....just not the best choice.

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It's ingredients are (per serving/can)

Energy.................. 5.3kH/1.1 Cal
Protein................. 0.2g
Fat, total............... 0g
Carbohydrates..... 0.4g
-sugars................. 0g
Dietary Fibre......... 0g
Sodium................. 41mg

Sound ok?

Those are not the ingredients.  That is the nutrient information.
 
Always look at the actual ingredient list.
 
Ingredients: Water, sucralose, Sodium Bicarbonate, etc...
 
Unfortunately in the UK they are allowed to lie on the ingredient label.

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Those are not the ingredients.  That is the nutrient information.

Always look at the actual ingredient list.

Ingredients: Water, sucralose, Sodium Bicarbonate, etc...

Dan's the man!...

On the side note: It most probably also contains high fructose corn syrup along with phenylalanine (AA) etc...

Good Luck!

Since there are no sugars listed, we can assume the sweetener is not HFCS..rather, as TIH noted: sucralose/aspartame/acesulfame K etc
 
Some people are VERY allergic to these.  There is some 3rd party research to show that they may stimulate fat storage as a "toxicity" response.
 
However, they are in very small quantities and the fat storage response would be far less than if it contained HFCS or sugar.  And they do not appear to lock in fat or impede its burning.
 
SO if you must...do it minimally. 

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Some show a warning of containing phenylalanine which is a NEAA, however, some don't mention that aspartame is derived from phenylalanine (in this case: "ignorance is not bliss")!...

"The only issue with aspartame is with individuals who have a disorder known as "phenylketonuria", which is what the cryptic warning on soda cans refers to." (If you have this disorder you can become morbidly ill!... "Left untreated, the disorder can cause brain damage and progressive mental retardation as a result of the accumulation of phenylalanine and its breakdown products.")...

For detailed info on Artificial Sweeteners check this great thread out: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=291569

Good Luck!

(PS. - danmirage... Do you chew gum?... If so, which one/s?)

(PS. - danmirage... Do you chew gum?... If so, which one/s?)

Nope.  Even Peelu gums piss my stomach off!

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(PS. - danmirage... Do you chew gum?... If so, which one/s?)

Nope.  Even Peelu gums piss my stomach off!

I hear you!...
 
Hypothetically, if you were to chew one which would it be???

Thanks!

The only issue with aspartame is...

Actually, no there are other issues.
 
Aspartame has aspartic acid in it, which is a well-documented excitotoxin. Single amino acids like this can cause your brain cells to become excessively excited and...die. Excitotoxins can also cause a loss of brain synapses and their connecting fibers.  (ADD anyone?)
 
Then the ester bond connecting aspartic acid to phenylalanine in aspartame is broken down to formaldehyde and methanol, which have their own toxicities. So it is absolutely no surprise that leukemia is associated with using it.
 
The Italian scientist Morando Soffritti makes some interesting points about the initial studies in the 1970s that led to aspartame's approval:
 
- They were (obviously) funded by the companies that produced aspartame.
- The tests used only a small number of lab rats
- Some of the test animals did get brain tumors, but these results were ignored - anomalies
- They were not conducted according to the standards of "Good Laboratory Practice"
 
In fact, nearly a decade ago, studies were already revealing that artificial sweeteners can:
- Stimulate your appetite.
- Increase carbohydrate cravings.
- Stimulate fat storage and weight gain.
 
Not particularly dangerous side effects, but worth noting...as their use in foods has increased and miraculously so have waistlines!
 
Which is why they are added to specialty food for the elderly who regularly have trouble consuming sufficient calories.
 
This is also of value for physique athletes to note....

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One of the peelu type gums made with natural mint and such...
 
I don't really know much about gum options...but it would be something found in a health food store.

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The only issue with aspartame is...

Actually, no there are other issues.

Aspartame has aspartic acid in it, which is a well-documented excitotoxin. Single amino acids like this can cause your brain cells to become excessively excited and...die. Excitotoxins can also cause a loss of brain synapses and their connecting fibers.  (ADD anyone?)
 
Then the ester bond connecting aspartic acid to phenylalanine in aspartame is broken down to formaldehyde and methanol, which have their own toxicities. So it is absolutely no surprise that leukemia is associated with using it.
 
The Italian scientist Morando Soffritti makes some interesting points about the initial studies in the 1970s that led to aspartame's approval:
 
- They were (obviously) funded by the companies that produced aspartame.
- The tests used only a small number of lab rats
- Some of the test animals did get brain tumors, but these results were ignored - anomalies
- They were not conducted according to the standards of "Good Laboratory Practice"

Yep!...

"Aspartic acid is an amino acid commonly found in foods. Approximately 40% of aspartame (by mass) is broken down into aspartic acid."
"Aspartic acid is in a class of chemicals known as excitotoxins."
"Abnormally high levels of excitotoxins have been shown in hundreds of animals studies to cause damage to areas of the brain unprotected by the blood-brain barrier and a variety of chronic diseases arising out of this neurotoxicity. [32], [33] The debate amongst scientists has been raging since the early 1970s, when Dr. John Olney found that high levels of aspartic acid caused damage to the brains of infant mice [34]. Dr. Olney and consumer attorney, James Turner filed a protest with the FDA to block the approval of aspartame."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

Good Luck!

ORIGINAL: danmirage

One of the peelu type gums made with natural mint and such...

I don't really know much about gum options...but it would be something found in a health food store.

I'll seek out "peelu"!
 
Thanks again!

It's ingredients are:

Carbonated Water
Colour (150d)
Food Acids (338, 331)
Flavour
Sweeteners (951, 950)
Preservative (211)
Caffeine
"Contains Phenylalanine. Contains caffeine"

Carbonated Water
Sulphite ammonia Caramel - Colour (150d) - Made from sucrose
Phosphoric Acid - Food Acid (338)
Sodium citrate - Food Acid (331)
Aspartame - Sweetener (951)
Acesulphane K -Sweetener (950)
Sodium Benzoate - Preservative (211)
 
So, it contains sugar, the second ingredient is made from it...they lied.
It is also loaded with ingredients that are questionable in relation to health effects.
 
In good faith, I would have to say avoid that.  But that is just me!
 
I would rather take green tea or tea, Ice it, add lemon and a touch of stevia...or throw in mint leaf and strawberry...

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One of the peelu type gums made with natural mint and such...

I don't really know much about gum options...but it would be something found in a health food store.

Daniel... What are your thoughts on this...

"Peelu Gum Spearmint Sugar Free (Dental Chewing Gum):
Ingredients: Sorbitol, Gum Base, Maltitol Syrup, Natural Oil of Spearmint, Lecithin, Peelu Extract, Titanium Dioxide, Resinous Glaze, Beeswax and Carnauba Wax

Suggested Use: For best results chew at least twice a day, after meals and between brushing."
http://www.vitasprings.com/peelu-gum-spearmint-100.html

Thanks for replying in advance!

Yea, familiar with that....start with the little box.
 
Sorbitol and Malitol are sugar alcohols...meaning they are sugar..and some people don't do so well with them, they can cause gastric distress.

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Damn, I guess i'm going to stay away from this drink then. Thanks for your help! The rest of the community must be thinking "I'm drinking zero sugar, but why am I still gaining weight?!"

Oh yeah, does drinking white tea make your fat? Or slow down weightloss to any extent?

White tea by itself is fine, has caffeine, antioxidants, etc. 
Its the sugar and cream that gets ya!

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I would also like to know this, i drink many diet pepsi's troughout a day, maybey 48 fl oz. and I also add morning coffee to that, with two teaspoons of ground coffee, yes, I am a caffeene head.

just wondering...does it make me fat??

Not necesarily...are you fat now....is your goal fat loss...
 
If your goal is fat loss, water is the best.
 
Since you are already accustomed to high caffeine, it's possible assistance in fat loss is lost.
 
Fat gain is a complex creature!
 
You might cut back on those flavored, carbonated, colored beverages....
 
To lose fat...just do  a little better than you have done in the days past!
 
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I am 5'6 and weight 154 on average.

I am on the border of being fat i think.

No problem..look at that thread I link above.
 
Follow the rules it lays out as best you can, strive to do better every week...and you will see improvement.
 
Any questions..post em!
 
The Right Nutrition +
Moderate aerobic exercise +
Resistance Training in a progressive manner
= results

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drinks with Splenda brand sweetener contains no aspartame *sp and also tastes just as good as real sugar. not promoting the consumption of soda but just thought i'd add my piece. :)

Splenda is also an artificial sweetener...additionally the soda is acidic causing the body to have to buffer it..requiring more water than you can imagine...and calcium...

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i just love drinking plain green iced tea. i learned to like the strong bitterness by drinking lots of unsweetened iced tea (black). the only thing i drink during the day thats sweet is probably my xtend

is gatorade good to have in the morning? like before school? because i heard the only times suitable for simple carbs are upon waking and post-workout.

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is gatorade good to have in the morning? like before school? because i heard the only times suitable for simple carbs are upon waking and post-workout

Not really...simple carbs by themselves post workout.
 
All the rest of your meals should be balanced nutrition.
 
But gatoraide does not fit the description of a useful supplement.  It is junk food.

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