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H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 1:03 PM
What is H.E.A.T.?

“H.E.A.T.” stands for Hordenine, Evodiamine, Alpha-yohimbine, and Tyramine. And, in the right combination, they are far, far more than a clever acronym. While its ancestors, with their focus on only norepinephrine, did wonders for appetite suppression, they were modest thermogenics, at best. And, worse than that, they were all out enemies of the central adipostatic machinery, the Fed State, and they caused hypersensitivity to cortisol and the stress response.

With H.E.A.T. Stack, we have added a superior increase in dopamine and epinephrine to a more moderate activation of norepinephrine. The result is activation of more lipolytic and thermogenic pathways, better maintenance of long-term adipostatic machinery, potent appetite suppression, and strong mood and energy support, with fewer negative side-effects.

To summarize:


  • Superior nutrient partitioning
  • Superior thermogenesis
  • Greater energy expenditure increase
  • Reduced anxiety and jitters
  • Superior hunger control
  • More leptin friendly
  • Enhances mood and energy
  • Caffeine free
  • Ephedra free
  • Reduced heart rate and blood pressure increase


What Twin Peak is offering:

Twin (a mod at DB and works for Avant Labs) has made an offer to take 1 person from DB to test this product with one stipulation. You have to log your experience.

What you need to do:

Post in this thread as to why you want to test this product and that you can meet the guidelines of accurately tracking your progress and reporting your experience. Why should Twin Peak choose you?

What will happen:

The person who is chosen will be contacted by Twin Peak as to the process.

When this ends:

This thread will be locked on March 17th, 6:00pm PST. That is the cut-off for testing participants.

Thanks Twin Peak!
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 1:06 PM
Anytime -- just wanting to give a little back to the good members of the forum.
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 2:29 PM
I'd like to test it, for my new site www.fssathletics.com I was going to have reviews of different supplements I have tried.

However, I am kinda scared to use it, because I've never gone beyond creatine, glut, protein supps.

I would never take hGH, or Steriods, I know its obviously not a steriod, but I dont have much knowledge of hGH. So I dont know what to do....

Is HEAT kinda like LeptiGen?
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 2:38 PM
Sorry I never responded to your PM -- I have been swamped what with the new product releases and the Arnold and all.

But one of the PREREQUISITES to anyone being accepted as a tester is to read the write-ups and at a minimum at least understand what the intend of the product is and how it should best be used.

No, it is not like LeptiGen, it is a fat burner.
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 2:51 PM
Question- How long will the person be on HEAT?
I'd volunteer myself, but I'm still bulking. I'm definitely interested in reading about how this works out, though.

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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 2:54 PM
I will provide 1 bottle which is a 1 month supply.

In due course we will have a fully referenced write-up on how it works.
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 3:03 PM
What exactly is it TP?
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 3:05 PM
BM -- did you read the first post by Marc?
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 3:06 PM
What if HEAT is too much for your test subject? Say a week into the test the user decides its too much to handle? Just inquiring? I would give it a try, im trying to lose fat and gain muscle at the moment. My only concern would be is what i mentioned above.

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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 3:12 PM

ORIGINAL: Twin Peak

BM -- did you read the first post by Marc?


Ya, but too many big words... hehe... Like I said, I don't know much beyond creatine, glut, protein...

To me, it sounds like it helps you while you are cutting, which I am.

I understand if your looking for someone who knows what this is all about, no prob.
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 3:24 PM
I would not mind doing a trial, and I could post my progress with body fat and include what I am eating and all,...but I already ordered Leptigen Mass, and I will be taking that for a month...I do not think you would want to have the combination of the products, it would skew the results and I do not even know if those products would be reccomended together.

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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 5:07 PM
So far I'm interested. However, I am going to have to know more about the ingredients before I put it in my body. If you have any info, please pass it on, otherwise I'll do a search on the internet.

As far as why I'd be suitable:
I first started taking thermogenics 4 years ago and I know how effective they can be. I've experienced all the gitters, mood elevations, sleeplessness and other side effects that go along with them. Working at GNC for 9 months gave me a good background in supplementation as well as experience with a large variety of different thermogenics. Currently I'm at 22% BF and want to cut that down to around 10-15% by summer. I work out regularly using the Max-OT routine as well as guerilla cardio 3-5 times per week. I already have an Accu-Measure calliper set (not exactly accurate, but it tracks up or down) so tracking my progress will be much easier. I also love being a human Guinea Pig.

Reasons I wouldn't be suitable:
I still do not have a stable diet down so a diet will have to be given to me to follow for at least a month prior in order to set up a base line. So if time is a factor, you might want to choose someone different. I also live in Canada which has it's own inherent problems. Not to mention I'm brutally honest, so if I dont like the product, I won't sugar coat it or play it up at all.
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 5:08 PM
I would be more than happy to do a one-month trial and track my progress. I already keepp track of my measurements on BodyBuildingJournal.com and I have a spreadsheet with all my measurements and graphs. As long as weekly measurements are enough tracking, of course with daily comments on experience for the day.

My only other concern is that I am on high blood pressure medicine, and most fat burners don't interact well. The only thing I've found that doesn't bother my high blood pressure is TwinLabs Ripped Fuel Extreme, but I'm not entirely happy with the results. {EDIT: After reading Mind and Muscle, I am pretty convinced that this will not raise blood pressure, so my concern about that is pretty much gone now.} Also, my eating habits really are not the most effective for loosing weight.

All in all, I am willing to try it and document it if you select me Twin Peak. Not to mention, my system is practically cleaned out after that bout of food poisoning I had this week.
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 5:34 PM
So...Twin Peak and MDA, why don't either of you try out HEAT?

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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 5:58 PM
because, they need an unbiased review
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 6:48 PM
I need to bulk after my 2 flu bouts.
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 8:30 PM
Well, MDA would be unbiased, since he has no affiliation with the company.

As far as me, I used it all weekend at the Arnold Classic, but I am not cutting right now, so I'll be using it in a month or so. And since we have 5 new products out this week, there are some other goodies for me to test.

As far as what's required:

* I need the tester to begin immediately, which means in 10-14 days.
* If the person doesn't respond well, s/he can lower the dose, or quit (all our products come with a 100% money back guarantee when paid for anyway).
* I need someone who has experience dieting and so can judge results.
* I need someone willing to be thorough.

No, this would not be an ideal stack with LeptiGen Massâ„¢ -- it wouldn't be terrible, but not ideal for testing. SesaThinâ„¢ would be an awesome stack with LG Massâ„¢.

Hope that helps.
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 8:47 PM
Well TP, i'll give it a shot.

I am cutting, and I can easily start it in 10-14 days.
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Friday, March 12, 2004 8:54 PM
It would be a good way to start my site with, i'm in need of more things to add, a review of this would be perfect
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:27 AM
And TP, I do not have a job, so there is nothing for me to do but train. I do 5 days a week (2 lifting, 3 cardio) So I don't have a schedule to work around, school, nothing.
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:40 AM
id try it . Im only 15tn though so
probably not a good idea. if it was glut protien or creatine I would.

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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Saturday, March 13, 2004 12:04 PM
Interesting, Ive always wanted to test out a product, however im probably too young and have no problems burning fat. So that would probably put me out, right? Ill be 16 in about 3 months, but if that isnt too young Id love to test it out. Im currently using max-out, so I log all of my workouts. I do not mind taking daily pictures of myself and writing reviews. The only thing I do besides train, is go to school and church.
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Saturday, March 13, 2004 12:10 PM
yeah same im about 3 and a half percent body fat even if all i eat is junk food. HAHAH oh the younger days for all you old peeps. Ill be 30 body fat when im 35 lol

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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Saturday, March 13, 2004 12:15 PM
Wouldnt you be dead at 3.5% body fat? But yea I dont have to hold to strict of a diet, I usually do though because I used to be a fat kid so I swore off sugar and fats and stuff. Now that I can eat it all I dont really want to though. After you go so long without something it begins to taste gross. Stuff like sweet tea disgusts me. Most of my fat comes from oils, eggs and meat.
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Saturday, March 13, 2004 6:28 PM
Also I think I should add that I was thinking about cutting soon. I just got my wisdom teeth out friday so the only thing Ive really been able to eat is ice cream and tomato soup. Even my metabolism cant handle that much fat. Plus my mom just got fired from her job so I will not be spending any money on supps for a while.
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Tuesday, March 16, 2004 9:23 PM
I'm your man TP. Ready to be the lab rat.

It would really help me with my cutting phase, and my website. So we both win if you pick me

Hope to hear from you soon, I am ready to start ASAP!
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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Wednesday, March 17, 2004 5:46 AM
I'm interested in trying this. I have never taken any sort of weight loss supplements. I have lost 70+ lbs since last April through a low carb diet and exercise. (I have around 30 more lbs of fat to loose) I am currently in the process of researching eating plans and trying to add more healthy carbs to my diet. I work out 6 days a week - 4 days MaxOT and 2 days HIIT cardio. I am female. I can track my food and exercise in fitday if you want and have no problem keeping a journal in addition to that. I have a hand held body fat reader, but I have been thinking about buying calipers. I can meet deadlines. What else do you want to know?

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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:20 AM
well the only thing i NEED to know before i say yes, IS............will it have any negative effects since im using NITRIX?? in other words....nitrix oxide? IF it has no counter effects so to speak...then ill do it....i have a flab area near my belly button id like to rid of......that and id like to have a lower BF%........ill do it, ill do it......i use protein,creatine,nitrix,iron,glucosamine.....thats about it..........

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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:44 PM
acually twin peak if its legal Id like to try it out, I will keep record sheets of everything and such, I will try it as long as its legal

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RE: H.E.A.T. Stack -1 Special Tester - Wednesday, March 17, 2004 3:26 PM
DB wouldn't offer this if it was illegal. And Avant Labs does not engage in illegal activities.

It might sound too good to be true.. but that is what a tester is for.
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