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losing gains when cycling creatine - Monday, June 08, 2009 11:49 AM ( #1 )
I haven't started creatine yet, but I've been told cycling it 1 month on, 1 month off is a good idea. Is it common to lose gains when you're on an off cycle even if you're lifting just as heavy? and if so, is there any way to prevent from losing gains?
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Re:losing gains when cycling creatine - Monday, June 08, 2009 8:09 PM ( #2 )
If you can find some good studies that show there's any point in cycling creatine, I'd like to see them.
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Re:losing gains when cycling creatine - Monday, June 08, 2009 8:55 PM ( #3 )
are you talking about losing muscle gains?
cycling off creatine wont make you lose muscle.
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Re:losing gains when cycling creatine - Tuesday, June 09, 2009 3:11 AM ( #4 )
oh ok. just curious. and as for the studies, im sure you could find 100 people on this site who'd prefer to cycle it rather than just become oversaturated to the point that it has absolutely no effect.
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Re:losing gains when cycling creatine - Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:01 AM ( #5 )
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oh ok. just curious. and as for the studies, im sure you could find 100 people on this site who'd prefer to cycle it rather than just become oversaturated to the point that it has absolutely no effect.


lol what?  there is no such point
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Re:losing gains when cycling creatine - Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:44 AM ( #6 )
honestly? Thats promising then because I always hear people saying how the dramatic early gains kinda taper off after a while, but as long as strength increases are consistent then i'm stoked. On that note, what form of creatine would you recommend to still gain size n strength but maybe not all that water weight you would with the monohydrate?
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Re:losing gains when cycling creatine - Tuesday, June 09, 2009 4:50 PM ( #7 )
cant your body get used of creatine if you dont cycle it and it no longer has an effect?
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Re:losing gains when cycling creatine - Tuesday, June 09, 2009 5:19 PM ( #8 )
cycle creatine mono for 8 weeks on then 4 weeks off..........rinse and repeat.

Most people respond best when cycled as above.

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Re:losing gains when cycling creatine - Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:39 AM ( #9 )
I cycle creatine in somewhat of the same time-frame smoundzou posted.  Although it's in so many sports supplements, it's really hard to completely cycle off depending on exactly what products you may be taking.

I've never seen any proof positive, peer reviewed studies that concludes it should be cycled, but I still find that taking a break from anything with the except of vitamins and basic proteins is a good idea.
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Re:losing gains when cycling creatine - Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:53 AM ( #10 )
I can't argue with personal preferences, but let me emphasize once more...

Marc David

I've never seen any proof positive, peer reviewed studies that concludes it should be cycled...



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Re:losing gains when cycling creatine - Saturday, June 13, 2009 12:38 PM ( #11 )
My experience is that you might lose 5-10 lbs or so if you cycle off, which might be a mental block and some water weight. But, if you increase 30lbs and lose 5 you still made a gain of 25lbs, not bad. I have only ever used mono because there is no long term research for any other forms of it.
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Re:losing gains when cycling creatine - Saturday, June 13, 2009 10:07 PM ( #12 )
After using creatine for a long period of time, the body will become accustomed to the larger influx of creatine into the bloodstream. Once accustomed, the desired effect will lessen and most likely cease to occur. This is why when you cycle off, the creatine influx drops becoming small, and the body getting used to the small amount. 4 weeks after the off cycle, returning to the larger influx the body has to become re-accustomed to the large surplus again hence creating the cycle, and maximizing the most advantageous effects of creatine.
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Re:losing gains when cycling creatine - Saturday, June 13, 2009 10:15 PM ( #13 )
It's funny that people are saying going on/off (which is cycling) creatine is the best approach.

Yet my cousin recommended it a few months back and people acted like he was ignorant.

http://www.discussbodyb...hen-to-bulk-m434736.aspx

Yeah, Pearl is exactly right. To keep the creatine effects optimal you SHOULD go on/off with creatine. Thanks for the elaboration, Pearl.
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