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kre-alkalyn. - Sunday, October 11, 2009 1:09 AM ( #1 )
i heard this is a gd source of protein, have any 1 tried it b4?? thinking about buying some.
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Re:kre-alkalyn. - Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:59 AM ( #2 )
ive been using it i cant tell a difference to be honest, been using CTD labs kre-alkalyn
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Re:kre-alkalyn. - Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:55 AM ( #3 )
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i heard this is a gd source of protein, have any 1 tried it b4?? thinking about buying some.



kre-alkalyn is creatine. not protein. and dont waste your money, just stick with mono
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Re:kre-alkalyn. - Sunday, October 11, 2009 2:01 PM ( #4 )
kre-alkalyn is the best supplement ever.  The bloat that creatine mono causes makes it not even worth using imo.  Kre-alakalyn gives you the benefits of creatine without the toxicity and added weight.
 
but creatine is not a source of muscle-building protein, it just helps you to hit more reps/weight.
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Re:kre-alkalyn. - Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:06 PM ( #5 )
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kre-alkalyn is the best supplement ever.  The bloat that creatine mono causes makes it not even worth using imo.  Kre-alakalyn gives you the benefits of creatine without the toxicity and added weight.
 
but creatine is not a source of muscle-building protein, it just helps you to hit more reps/weight.


I'll have to disagree with you on this one.  There is NO (ZERO, 0, .000) scientific evidence to support those claims.  The conversion of creatine into creatinine is not significant in the body and has NO TOXIC EFFECTS. 
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Re:kre-alkalyn. - Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:26 PM ( #6 )
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kre-alkalyn is the best supplement ever.  The bloat that creatine mono causes makes it not even worth using imo.  Kre-alakalyn gives you the benefits of creatine without the toxicity and added weight.

but creatine is not a source of muscle-building protein, it just helps you to hit more reps/weight.


I'll have to disagree with you on this one.  There is NO (ZERO, 0, .000) scientific evidence to support those claims.  The conversion of creatine into creatinine is not significant in the body and has NO TOXIC EFFECTS. 

tha fact that you bloat up ten extra pounds is tellin me something bad is happening.  Even if it isnt toxic, why would you want that extra weight?  Creatinine conversion was never a worry for me, more that added wieght that just makes you feel slow and look fat.
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Re:kre-alkalyn. - Sunday, October 11, 2009 10:32 PM ( #7 )
Creatine causes water retention & water rentention is incredibly bad for you. people have died from water retention (not from using creatine) but you get the gst of what I'm saying. Thats why you have to cylce. Get the creatine with a carb delivery system so you only have to take it once (after workout)
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Re:kre-alkalyn. - Monday, October 12, 2009 3:38 PM ( #8 )
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Creatine causes water retention & water rentention is incredibly bad for you. people have died from water retention (not from using creatine) but you get the gst of what I'm saying. Thats why you have to cylce. Get the creatine with a carb delivery system so you only have to take it once (after workout)


Muscle is something like 70% water.  So when you add muscle you are essentially adding mostly water weight.  Studies show that while creatine does increase intracellular fluid, it has no adverse effects on fluid distribution.  Also, isn't the whole point of taking creatine to increase your water weight?  It fills your inner and outer muscle cells and causes them to swell.  That's what gives you better strength and recovery...Isn't trying to drop the water defeating the purpose?

Oh, and why not just eat a simple sugar like dextrose with some regular monohydrate?   It's the exact same thing as a "carb delivery system".  LOL

Read this study:  http://www.nata.org/jat...38.1/attr_38_01_0044.pdf
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Re:kre-alkalyn. - Monday, October 12, 2009 4:59 PM ( #9 )
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Creatine causes water retention & water rentention is incredibly bad for you. people have died from water retention (not from using creatine) but you get the gst of what I'm saying. Thats why you have to cylce. Get the creatine with a carb delivery system so you only have to take it once (after workout)


Muscle is something like 70% water.  So when you add muscle you are essentially adding mostly water weight.  Studies show that while creatine does increase intracellular fluid, it has no adverse effects on fluid distribution.  Also, isn't the whole point of taking creatine to increase your water weight?  It fills your inner and outer muscle cells and causes them to swell.  That's what gives you better strength and recovery...Isn't trying to drop the water defeating the purpose?

Oh, and why not just eat a simple sugar like dextrose with some regular monohydrate?   It's the exact same thing as a "carb delivery system".  LOL

Read this study:  http://www.nata.org/jat/readers/archives/38.1/attr_38_01_0044.pdf

I thought it worked by increasing ATP
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Re:kre-alkalyn. - Monday, October 12, 2009 5:04 PM ( #10 )
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Creatine causes water retention & water rentention is incredibly bad for you. people have died from water retention (not from using creatine) but you get the gst of what I'm saying. Thats why you have to cylce. Get the creatine with a carb delivery system so you only have to take it once (after workout)


Muscle is something like 70% water.  So when you add muscle you are essentially adding mostly water weight.  Studies show that while creatine does increase intracellular fluid, it has no adverse effects on fluid distribution.  Also, isn't the whole point of taking creatine to increase your water weight?  It fills your inner and outer muscle cells and causes them to swell.  That's what gives you better strength and recovery...Isn't trying to drop the water defeating the purpose?

Oh, and why not just eat a simple sugar like dextrose with some regular monohydrate?   It's the exact same thing as a "carb delivery system".  LOL

Read this study:  http://www.nata.org/jat/readers/archives/38.1/attr_38_01_0044.pdf

I thought it worked by increasing ATP



yeah creatine phosphate is used by the muscles when they contract, the purpose of creatine isnt to increase your water weight....open an anatomy book
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Re:kre-alkalyn. - Monday, October 12, 2009 5:34 PM ( #11 )
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Creatine causes water retention & water rentention is incredibly bad for you. people have died from water retention (not from using creatine) but you get the gst of what I'm saying. Thats why you have to cylce. Get the creatine with a carb delivery system so you only have to take it once (after workout)


Muscle is something like 70% water.  So when you add muscle you are essentially adding mostly water weight.  Studies show that while creatine does increase intracellular fluid, it has no adverse effects on fluid distribution.  Also, isn't the whole point of taking creatine to increase your water weight?  It fills your inner and outer muscle cells and causes them to swell.  That's what gives you better strength and recovery...Isn't trying to drop the water defeating the purpose?

Oh, and why not just eat a simple sugar like dextrose with some regular monohydrate?   It's the exact same thing as a "carb delivery system".  LOL

Read this study:  http://www.nata.org/jat/readers/archives/38.1/attr_38_01_0044.pdf

I thought it worked by increasing ATP



yeah creatine phosphate is used by the muscles when they contract, the purpose of creatine isnt to increase your water weight....open an anatomy book


If you really want to get technical, ATP(adenosine triphosphate) is used by the muscles when they contract.  After it is used the third phosphate goes away, making it ADP(adenosine diphoshate).  The creatine phosphate lends its phosphate to the ADP thus making it ATP again. 

Don't tell me to read an anatomy book if you haven't done so yourself.

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Re:kre-alkalyn. - Monday, October 12, 2009 5:52 PM ( #12 )
man, youre missing the point here lol
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Re:kre-alkalyn. - Monday, October 12, 2009 5:54 PM ( #13 )
Call me crazy but I always thought that since your muscle was mostly water--more water being pushed into it wasn't bad for it.  More fiber recruitment
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Re:kre-alkalyn. - Monday, October 12, 2009 6:47 PM ( #14 )
wow!!! hahaha alot of info her, i dont think we need an anatomy book!! lol well thanx guys, ill try it n let you guys kno how it goes...
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Re:kre-alkalyn. - Monday, October 12, 2009 7:47 PM ( #15 )
Unfortunately creatine supplementation does d*ck for me.   I don't get +10 lbs on either mono or kre-alkalyn.  I also don't seem to lift any more.  But I take mono anyway, cos it's cheap as dirt, so why not?
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Re:kre-alkalyn. - Monday, October 12, 2009 10:30 PM ( #16 )
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If you really want to get technical, ATP(adenosine triphosphate) is used by the muscles when they contract.  After it is used the third phosphate goes away, making it ADP(adenosine diphoshate).  The creatine phosphate lends its phosphate to the ADP thus making it ATP again. 

Don't tell me to read an anatomy book if you haven't done so yourself.



that's what i was what i was referring to, i didnt feel i needed to go into complete detail to get the point across of how the point of creatine isnt really to increase your water weight, but to help fuel you whenever your muscles need the energy
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