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just started at gym - 9/29/2007 3:01:39 PM   
john davies

 

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First off i would like to say hi to all, as this is my first post.

I would like some help on a possible work out. Im 29 years old, 6ft tall approx, 13.5 stone. medium build.
Im possible a little over weight as currently carrying allttie bit of flab around waist. i would like to tone up and build my chest muscles if possible, and would welcome any advice you lot can help me with   many thanks john
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RE: just started at gym - 9/30/2007 11:55:49 AM   
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any ideas ???  

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RE: just started at gym - 9/30/2007 2:33:20 PM   
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best way to tone up and is a strict diet that all i gotta say

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RE: just started at gym - 9/30/2007 3:00:02 PM   
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hi would you be able to give me some ideas to get me started on a program.

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RE: just started at gym - 9/30/2007 4:25:08 PM   
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hey john, howya doin? here is a simple routine that is good for pretty much all areas, to gain muscle and to get somewhat cut.


Monday: chest/tris (heavy lifting/low reps)
Tuesday: biceps/back/cardio (heavy lifting/low reps)
Wednesday: Shoulders/Lats/abs
Thursday: Cardio
Friday: chest/tris/cardio (light lifting/ high reps)
Saturday: biceps/cardio (light lifting/ high reps)
Sunday: off

* remember (cardio: at least 1/2 hr-40 min of running) (Back: military press and sitting pull-downs are good for your back and bis at the same time.)

Your diet also has alot to do with your success.  if you eat crappy foods, its like you didn't even w/o.  if i eat something bad. i tell myself that i just threw my w/o out the window.  here are some tips to eat healthy/cheap/still taste good. 

1 small can of tuna 11 a.m.
1 small can of tuna 1 p.m.
1 ham/turkey sandwich/protein shake 4 p.m.
1 salad w/ lite dressing 7 p.m.


this is is just to give you an idea of what you should be eating on a daily basis.  i like the tuna and think it tastes good... i eat it out of the can , but thats just me.  others put mayonayes in it, but thats a big no no in my book. other foods that i eat to mix it up are:

Boneless chicken breasts: cooked on the foreman with garlic salt.  slice it up and eat it, or put cheese on it and make a sandwich.
Spaghetti: with sauce and some garic bread.

and all skim milk too... only drink milk and water.. lots of water because i find myself dehydrated sometimes.

after you read this try it out for 3 weeks or so and lemme know how it works for you..


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I also do a "spartan 300" ab workout b4 i go to bed 4 nights a week... its simple

3 different ab excersized, 25 reps of each, perform them one right after eachother.  do 100 of each = 300 reps... i rest when i'm 1/2 way through.

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RE: just started at gym - 10/1/2007 11:40:09 AM   
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hi what sort of reps should i be doing. and what sort of weights should i start with..

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RE: just started at gym - 10/2/2007 4:05:43 AM  1 votes
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The first thing you should do is find a good calorie calculator and determine what your daily maintainance calories should be.  From there, slowly deduct 200-500 calories until you start to lose weight.

The next step would be finding a good diet.  do a search on this board and you'll find tons of helpful dips regarding what to eat and when to eat it.. Everyone's body reacts differently to diet and it may take some time to determine how your body reacts to certain foods.  But the bottom line is,, you have to decrease calories in order to lose weight..

Another thing to consider is.. it's virtually impossible to gain muscle while on a diet so you'll be sacrificing muscle gain.  Unless your grossly obese and need to drop weight for health reasons.. I would highly suggest not going on a diet.. Before anyone starts a cut, they need to have a decent muscle base due to the fact that when you do cut.. you're going to lose muscle.. no way around it.. at least no way I've ever founds.. :}  

Regarding the routine posted, I'm sure the poster is trying to help but the structure of the routine is horrible...and very un-even.. No leg work and Chest / Back/Bi's/Tri's 2X's and Shoulders only 1 X? 


Try doing a basic 3 day full body or 4 day upper lower split.  If you're just starting out you'll see your best muscle gains by doing this type of routine.. The routine the poster suggested has no leg work and leg work is vital to any weight training program..

Make sure your routine incorporates Squats and deads.. two of the best mass / strength building exercises you can do..

Here's a very simple 3 day full body that will work every muscle and give you your best gains..

3 working sets of 8-10 reps
Start each exercises with about 60% of your max lifts.  Do 3 sets with the same weight.. the next workout day.. add 5-10lbs.. depending on the exercise..

Monday:
Squat
Incline Bench
OH Press
Bent over BB or DB Row
SLDL

Wednesday:
Deadlift
Weighted Dips
OH Press
Seated Rows
Pullups supinated grip

Friday:
Squat
Flat Bench
OH Press
Bent over BB or DB  Rows
Pullups pronated grip

If you want to add some isilations.. only add 2 each day from the list below and only do 2 or 3 sets of 10-12
Remember, you're bi's tri's rear delts and calfs are getting plenty of stimulation from the compounds and there's no need to overkill.. keep it very simple..

BB or DB Curls
Lying Tricep exts... Press downs  
Reverse Pec Dec for rear delts..
Calf raises..

good luck

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