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interval training question - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:06 AM ( #1 )
so, the standard approach presented to interval training has one increasing & decreasing their speed.
 
if you're on a stationary bike or elliptical though, how about maintaining constant speed & increasing & decreasing resistance?  Does this accomplish the same thing?  seems to me like it would, but I inquire as to your thoughts.
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Re:interval training question - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:05 AM ( #2 )
Yes. But it won't be as effective as a few intervals of sprinting full blast for 20 seconds and jogging for 40.
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Re:interval training question - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:16 AM ( #3 )
When I do HIIT on a bike or crosstrainer, I vary the resistance, not the cadence, although I do rev up the cadence on the "sprints."  If I'm sweatin' like a monsoon and huffin' like a steam locomotive, that's all that needs to happen, right?
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Re:interval training question - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:25 AM ( #4 )
I sweat in my shower water is too hot, but it's not cardio.

Sweating is just body's natural way of cooling itself down, it, like soreness, is no indicator of a good workout.

HIIT varies to keep your heart from adjusting (since your body adapts to cardio so easily). The key component is to maintain a constantly changing heart-rhythm.
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Re:interval training question - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:37 AM ( #5 )
Well I'm pretty sure that's happening:  Doesn't elevated respiration correspond to elevated heart rate?  This is why I had a thread a while ago asking whether a Polar heart rate monitor was a wise investment.  I mean is this really rocket science?  How important is getting the intervals right, or is it more just pounding your body into submission for 15 min and you can't go all out for 15 min or you'd keel over dead so you do intervals instead?  There's a science to the HR roller coaster?  What's the best interval as far as high/low % of max HR, and time at high intensity/time at low intensity?
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Re:interval training question - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:43 AM ( #6 )
Getting the intervals right would be a matter of change each workout. Meaning if you did 8 intervals of 40/20, try either getting 9 intervals of 40/20 the next week and / or just do 35/25 for 8 intervals. The key is to "train" your heart so to speak.

I've done HIIT through running, burpees, push ups, lightweight exercises (tabata sort of), etc. there are many ways to do it but the key is to increase the cardiac output as much as possible. I don't imagine raising the incline would be as effective as a full boar sprint depended upon the intensity of the incline. Keep in mind walking on an incline is considered lower intensity cardio..so the intensity used is important too. You should rely on your anaerobic glycosis during the interval part of HIIT, which is 50-85% of your max intensity so that the anaerobic threshold occurs.

Here is some more information: http://www.hiitsource.com/
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Re:interval training question - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:45 AM ( #7 )
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What's the best interval as far as high/low % of max HR, and time at high intensity/time at low intensity?


I didn't answer this in the previous post due to rambling but a short and direct response is the anaerobic threshold occurs within 50-85% of max heart-rate.
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Re:interval training question - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:08 AM ( #8 )
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   Thanks!   That website is a disaster though!  All the forum posts were flushed down the toilet when the hosting company went belly up.  It tells me high intensity and active rest HRs but doesn't talk about how many seconds of each.  When you do HIIT, what is the timing of your intervals?
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Re:interval training question - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:11 AM ( #9 )
I do 43/22 at the moment, I started at 40/20 so I'm fairly catching up.

I sent you a PM with a link to an article I wrote on how cardio works and why it's necessary.
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Re:interval training question - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:24 AM ( #10 )
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I do 43/22 at the moment, I started at 40/20 so I'm fairly catching up.

I sent you a PM with a link to an article I wrote on how cardio works and why it's necessary.


Got it. Read it.  Good stuff!  Thx!
Do you have a special watch to do the 43/22?
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Re:interval training question - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:25 AM ( #11 )
Haha, no I'm lame. I run with an mp3 player and when it hits a certain lyric I slow down, re-start the song and do it again and again.
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Re:interval training question - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:28 AM ( #12 )
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Haha, no I'm lame. I run with an mp3 player and when it hits a certain lyric I slow down, re-start the song and do it again and again.


That's not lame, imo.  That's clever!  :)
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Re:interval training question - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:04 PM ( #13 )
I agree with what was said as well - I've worked with people who do HIIT a number of different ways - as long as the intensity level is really getting up there, you'll get results.
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Re:interval training question - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:06 AM ( #14 )
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Haha, no I'm lame. I run with an mp3 player and when it hits a certain lyric I slow down, re-start the song and do it again and again.


Ha!  That'd probably make me sick of the song!


Jmbs, If you're looking for an interval timer, Gymboss makes a decent and cheap one.  It beeps, vibrates, it's small and simple.  Only does 2 interval times, but it works just fine for my HIIT.  I thought it might be a silly purchase, but I've got no regrets.  You can probably get it on Amazon or Gymboss' website if you're interested.
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Re:interval training question - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:39 AM ( #15 )
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   Thanks!  But how do you figure out what the interval times should be?
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Re:interval training question - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:04 AM ( #16 )
Are you asking what intervals I like to use?

Every now and then I read about guys doing like 45-60 sec work intervals.  Hey, it still burns calories, but if you're really going max effort, after 30 secs the intensity starts to dwindle fast.  And high intensity is the name of the game.  So personally I like 20/10 sprints.  20 secs is a good amount of time to push it hard as hell before losing too much steam.  If I'm out of shape (like now) and 10 secs isn't enough rest, I increase it to 12 or 13.
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Re:interval training question - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:08 AM ( #17 )
On the treadmill and crosstrainer I was doing 30 and 30.
In the pool I was doing 1/2 lap and 1/2 lap, so probably 20 and 30 maybe.
So there's no hard science behind which times work best?  Depends on individual and tolerance?
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Re:interval training question - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:13 AM ( #18 )
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On the treadmill and crosstrainer I was doing 30 and 30.
In the pool I was doing 1/2 lap and 1/2 lap, so probably 20 and 30 maybe.
So there's no hard science behind which times work best?  Depends on individual and tolerance?


Yes. Just change it up frequently, start out with 45/15. When you sprint, you should go full blast, as fast as you can, which will automatically cause a release of epinephrine.
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Re:interval training question - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:23 AM ( #19 )
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On the treadmill and crosstrainer I was doing 30 and 30.
In the pool I was doing 1/2 lap and 1/2 lap, so probably 20 and 30 maybe.
So there's no hard science behind which times work best?  Depends on individual and tolerance?


IMO get off the treadmill.  Don't let a machine's limitations determine how quickly you can get to top speed.
Swimming is a whole different ballgame for me.  I tried swimming HIIT and it was a disaster, I really don't like it.
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Re:interval training question - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:37 AM ( #20 )
S,
  Yeah, no more treadmill HIIT for me.  Had to visit the doc after that!  :(
Like the swimming, but bigger time commitment w/getting ready, showering, etc.
Crosstrainer is my favorite so far.
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Re:interval training question - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:39 AM ( #21 )
JMBS:

Try HIIT with burpees. 30 seconds on / 10 seconds off. Do 8 cycles of that and see the feeling you get afterwords, IMO it's harder than the sprinting!
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Re:interval training question - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:44 AM ( #22 )
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JMBS:

Try HIIT with burpees. 30 seconds on / 10 seconds off. Do 8 cycles of that and see the feeling you get afterwords, IMO it's harder than the sprinting!


Okay, I didn't know what "burpees" were so I youtube'd.
 
Is this a good example?!  ;)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYfNA_lmkHM
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Re:interval training question - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:47 AM ( #23 )
For some reason it won't let me watch the video?

Here is the perfect example though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX7pD-CeCvU
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Re:interval training question - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:51 AM ( #24 )
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For some reason it won't let me watch the video?

Here is the perfect example though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX7pD-CeCvU


NO, NO!  Put this title in youtube:  (a much better example)  ;) 

Fitness - Boot Camp Workout 1: Burpee's Exercise

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Re:interval training question - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:53 AM ( #25 )
OH $#IT!!!

It's videos like these that make me appreciate single life.

Haha, thanks J.

Now I can watch a hot girl sweat with hardly any clothes on with heavy breathing and say I'm being educated on burpee forums of HIIT.
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Re:interval training question - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:04 AM ( #26 )
i have watched way too many of her videos...
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Re:interval training question - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:10 AM ( #27 )
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i have watched way too many of her videos...


You mean there are more?!
 
SLDLs maybe?
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Re:interval training question - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:14 AM ( #28 )
hahaha she has a ton.

SLDL, i don't think so, but the exercise itself barely even matters.  try:
Fitness - Dive Bomber Push Ups Exercise
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Re:interval training question - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:23 AM ( #29 )
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hahaha she has a ton.

SLDL, i don't think so, but the exercise itself barely even matters.  try:
Fitness - Dive Bomber Push Ups Exercise


Nice!  Love the breathing afterward!
 
On a serious note:  That is the PERFECT female body, in my opinion.   Really like THAT!
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Re:interval training question - Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:27 PM ( #30 )
Now, THAT was a threadjack.

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