how's this stack?

Cool beans.  One question on taking the post-workout creatine with the post-workout protein shake...

Cellmass says it should be taken on a empty stomach, and to wait 30 mins after taking it before you take your post-workout proteing shake.

Should/are you supposed to do the same for most/all other brands of creatine?

1x1 RM's: (old)
Flat Bench: 335 lbs
Back Squat: 425lbs
OH Press: 215lbs

Current 4x7's:
Flat Bench: 285lbs  
Back Squat: 385lbs
OH Press: 165lbs

im not sure about cellmass but usually you want to take creatine pre/ and or post workout

Because when you finish working out you take all that stuff to create an insulin spike and insulin shuttles amino acids into your muscles, replenishes glycogen in the muscles, and during this time they say using creatine during this postworkout window with carbs and portein is the most effiecient because like the aminos and glycogen, creatine too is shuttled into muscles to get aid in recovery and prepare your creatine phophate stores for your next workout

Just do your best to follow the cellmass recomendations but id recomend just getting some micrnozed creatine form higher power its 1000g for 20 dollars, best bang for the buck and its good quality.

Dont wait 30 min before drinking your protien/waixy drink..honeslty tho i bet if you take cellmass an hour before workout or before bed you would be fine... but im not sure ive never used cellmass.

YOU GOTTA EAT BIG, TO BE!

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Cheap whey, cheap creatine mono, lots of food, good multi. Save yourself the money and don't buy hyped BS

u realize cheap whey protein is filled with bull**** aka fillers

YOU GOTTA EAT BIG, TO BE!

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Wrong. Plenty of quality cheap whey comes from same manufacturers as the "quality" whey. Just gotta do some bargain shopping.
And when I say cheap whey that doesn't mean you can't  find "quality" whey brands for cheap.

Don't buy nitro tech hardcore - It tastes like fanny and the simile I use to describe drinking 500ml of water with 2 scoops is, ''Like a boxing match.''

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ok redjeep keep thinking that man

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right ok, how's this stack now?

size on - creatine

15 min Pre workout take 50-70g Waxy maize + BCAAs/Protein

During = Size on

After = Isolate + waxy maize... you dont really need bcaas with the whey protien isloate but if you want you can add it as well

Just dont get blinded by supps in order to grow you need more calories consumed than expended. Just remeber that everytime you get full and take 5 more bites!

YOU GOTTA EAT BIG, TO BE!

NASM certified trainer

RedJeep


Wrong. Plenty of quality cheap whey comes from same manufacturers as the "quality" whey. Just gotta do some bargain shopping.
And when I say cheap whey that doesn't mean you can't  find "quality" whey brands for cheap.

What he said.

Just because something doesn't cost a alot doesn't mean it sucks. As long as your ingredients are good there is no difference.

Gin Rummy: Simply because you don't have evidence that something does exist does not mean you have evidence of something that doesn't exist.(from the boondocks)

Creation


15 min Pre workout take 50-70g Waxy maize + BCAAs/Protein

During = Size on

After = Isolate + waxy maize... you dont really need bcaas with the whey protien isloate but if you want you can add it as well

Just dont get blinded by supps in order to grow you need more calories consumed than expended. Just remeber that everytime you get full and take 5 more bites!

thought you said 

Creation

Waixy Maize for pre/during/after workout (optimum nutrition)
BCAA powder pre/during workout (xtend or purple wrath or Bulk BCAA)
I also like to have 70G of waxy Maize to sip before/during to make sure i stay anabolic as possible. 

but now you're saying just to take creatine during?!

should i take waxy maize/bcaa during? i'll also be taking superpump before dont forget, and that has to be on an empty stomach, so how do i take that aswell as waxy maize/bcaa pre workout?


also, whats the difference between taking whey protein isolate (protein) and waxy maize (carbs and protein) when truemass has all that in one shake...?

is the benefit of taking whey pre workout just for energy too? i'll get all that from the superpump wont i?

well u got size on and size on is meant to be drank during workout which is why i dont like it

dont mix bcaa/waxy with sizeon

jsut take the bcaa/waxy 15 min before you lift

WAXY MAIZE IS JUST A CARB! sometimes i question literacy on here haha.

Truemass carbs on not digested super fast like waxy maize and the protien in truemass is a slower digesting protein

Read the ingredients

YOU GOTTA EAT BIG, TO BE!

NASM certified trainer

Creation


well u got size on and size on is meant to be drank during workout which is why i dont like it

dont mix bcaa/waxy with sizeon

jsut take the bcaa/waxy 15 min before you lift

WAXY MAIZE IS JUST A CARB! sometimes i question literacy on here haha.

Truemass carbs on not digested super fast like waxy maize and the protien in truemass is a slower digesting protein

Read the ingredients

what about the superpump? i'll be taking that pre workout...

what creatine would you recommend?

chrisshepherd

RedJeep


Wrong. Plenty of quality cheap whey comes from same manufacturers as the "quality" whey. Just gotta do some bargain shopping.
And when I say cheap whey that doesn't mean you can't  find "quality" whey brands for cheap.

What he said.

Just because something doesn't cost a alot doesn't mean it sucks. As long as your ingredients are good there is no difference.

Exactly. ON loves the people that think it is the purest, most quality whey out there, also the reason why it is expensive because they know they can get people to buy it. For a new company to break into the market they have to sell it for cheaper because they have no name for themselves, hence the cheaper price.

If we went by price then you better go to whole foods and buy the 2lb tub for 40$ because it must be the best because it is so expensive.

If anyone can honestly say they have seen a difference between one brand of whey compared to the next then they are full of it.

razorsharp192

Creation


well u got size on and size on is meant to be drank during workout which is why i dont like it

dont mix bcaa/waxy with sizeon

jsut take the bcaa/waxy 15 min before you lift

WAXY MAIZE IS JUST A CARB! sometimes i question literacy on here haha.

Truemass carbs on not digested super fast like waxy maize and the protien in truemass is a slower digesting protein

Read the ingredients

what about the superpump? i'll be taking that pre workout...

what creatine would you recommend?

Creatine mono. Cheap and effective. Don't buy into the hype of gaspari and BSN, they are full of useless ingredients and less of what you actually want, creatine.

To make it easier, take waxy w/ bcaa and creatine post WO. Then 20 min later have your protein shake. Then all you have to do before is take superpump.