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hey is creatine supposed to make your heart fill funny
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Sunday, December 21, 2003 12:33 AM
yeah uhh i needed to know right away i just started taking creatine and i did a bunch of crunches and curks and push up and my heart feels really weird but i feel pumped like something is moving through jmy veins. could this be a reaction? or is it normal to feel this way?
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RE: hey is creatine supposed to make your heart fill funny
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Sunday, December 21, 2003 12:44 AM
nvm i now know what was going on it was just the creatine working i took it prior to my work out and since it was my first time useing it i wasnt used to the results..such as such quick recovery and increased strength...
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RE: hey is creatine supposed to make your heart fill funny
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Monday, December 22, 2003 8:53 AM
Keep on eye on that.. I've noticed the strength and feeling good.. but never heart fluctuations or anything. There's not any such side effects that I'm aware of, but each person reacts differently. I'd suggest that you drink plenty of fluids 1+ gallons a day) and monitor how you feel. If you continue to odd, either get a check up done ASAP or quit taking creatine. Could be the brand or maybe some odd effect it has on you. I know Ephedra products you may experience such issues but with creatine I've not heard of such.
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RE: hey is creatine supposed to make your heart fill funny
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Monday, December 22, 2003 9:32 AM
Creatine isn't a stimulant or a hormone, it doesn't cause noticible short-term effects. It takes time for it to be absorbed into the muscle to get the strength boost, and even that is only for very short-duration "burst" strength. There's no evidence that Creatine has any effect on recovery times. It's a popular supplement, and it's good for what it does, give you better "burst" strength and fluff up your muscles with water, but all SORTS of benefits have been attributed to it that aren't scientifically supported.
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Monday, December 22, 2003 10:18 AM
but all SORTS of benefits have been attributed to it that aren't scientifically supported. Have to disagree. Creatine along with protein are the two most scientifically supported sports supplements available. And certainly your daily multi-vitamin.
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Monday, December 22, 2003 1:25 PM
There's no evidence that Creatine has any effect on recovery times. You sure about that? Do you have a referenced study? I'm pretty sure I've read that it does. I'll definitely have to do some research though. D
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Monday, December 22, 2003 1:48 PM
Researchers first investigated the ergogenic effects of short-term creatine loading. In a typical study, a creatine dose of 5 g is given four times a day for five to seven days to ensure that muscle creatine increases. A control group is given a placebo (glucose or some other relatively inert substance) in a double-blind manner (neither the athletes nor the researchers doing the testing know who gets what until after the tests are performed). Most studies have shown that speed or power output in sprints--all-out bursts of activity lasting a few seconds to several minutes--is enhanced, typically by 5-8%. Repetitive sprint performance is also enhanced when the rests between sprints don't allow full recovery. In this case, total work output can be increased by 5-15%. There is also evidence that work performed during sets of multiple repetition strength tests may be enhanced by creatine supplementation, typically by 5-15%. In addition, one-repetition maximum strength and vertical-jump performance may also be increased with creatine supplementation, typically by 5-10%. The improvement in exercise performance has been correlated with the degree in which creatine is stored in the muscle following creatine supplementation, particularly in Type II muscle fibers (Casey et al., 1996). This looks like increased recovery time to me, I could be misinterpreting this though. Here's the rest of the study. D
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Monday, December 22, 2003 1:52 PM
Oops, I don't like to quote stuff without letting you know where I got it, just so you don't think I went and made all that up. The quote comes from a study conducted at the University of Memphis, best as I can tell Dr Kreider conducted it. D
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RE: hey is creatine supposed to make your heart fill funny
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Monday, December 22, 2003 2:52 PM
And here I was just about to give you an A+ on your report
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Monday, December 22, 2003 3:05 PM
Have to disagree. Creatine along with protein are the two most scientifically supported sports supplements available. And certainly your daily multi-vitamin. MDA: I didn't mean to imply that Creatine has no benefits, it clearly does for short burst strenth and muscle volume. I meant that I have seen people saying that Creatine has all sorts of OTHER benefits that haven't been supported scientifically, such as endurance in long-distance runners. Edit: Dj, yeah, you got me there. I was actually thinking of "recovery time" as the amount of time it took between lifting days for muscles to heal, for which Creatine is no help (steroids, on the other hand...). What you describe is completely logical based on the biochemistry.
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Monday, December 22, 2003 3:22 PM
NP..  I'm not sure creatine helps in long term recovery either. From the study it looks like short term stuff to me as well. I wouldn't say that taking creatine helps to heal the muscles faster in order to work them again the same week like some other substances do.
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Monday, December 22, 2003 5:53 PM
I haven't ever read anything on longterm recovery... soreness type recovery. I'll have to look into that, thinking about it from my limited biological knowledge I don't see why it would... Unless the additional water drawn into the muscle aids in transport of nutrients... i'll see what I can find. D
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RE: hey is creatine supposed to make your heart fill funny
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Monday, December 22, 2003 9:25 PM
The heart is a muscle and creatine has certain effects on muscle. There are concerns weather there are unknown effects on the heart but this area of research is lacking. i would discontinue if you continue to have these weird feelings.
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RE: hey is creatine supposed to make your heart fill funny
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Tuesday, December 30, 2003 7:14 PM
99% of every believed heart attack are really stomach upsets... creatine can upset your stomach... Maybe that helps... [Disclaimer] if you die from this advice, all your money are belong to me [/Disclaimer]
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