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help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/16/2004 5:37:53 PM   
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HI, i just started taking pro-hormones for football season and to just start getten built (mass). I am 15 years old and about 5'9. I know i shouldnt really be taking these but jan 16 is the deadline so i decided to try it. I am currently taking Methyl 1-test by Omega sports w/ 10mg a serving, i am taking 2 capsules a day. it has been a week now and i found some side effects, decline in appetite and lethery(if thats spelled right lol). I gained about 6 lbs. so its working but i dont see the results. Some people say they get 20lbs of muscule in 1 1/2 weeks w/ a lower dose than me. Doctors say i have exellent muscule tone and i can be a body builder if i want. (i dont but anyways) I cant figure out why im not seeing gains. My next question is, im going to order this stuff http://bodybuilding.com/store/sns/4ad.htm
When do i take the servings and how many each serving. I am going to stack this w/ my methyl 1-test. Is this safe? Will this cuse any shrinkage?(lol) and will this totally jsut screw my liver? Another question lol, How much do i have to workout while using these? everyday....every other day....? And is there a way to eat more from my appetite loss because i loose it sometimes so much that it lik hurts to chew and swallow food. THANK YOU GUYS n GIRLS so much!, Austin
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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/17/2004 9:28:28 AM   
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I am 15 years old


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I am currently taking Methyl 1-test


Smile I just hope you've done your research before starting to take such a potent PH.

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/17/2004 9:57:00 AM   
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The only advise I offer is to not take any PHs or PSs until you have reached your early 20's. 15 is way to young to take these drugs. Focus on your diet and get plenty of protien and sleep.

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/17/2004 12:31:51 PM   
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I KNO I KNO , but how much do i ahve to work out while taking these? Do you really get steroid like results?

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/17/2004 12:34:21 PM   
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Do you really get steroid like results?


Not even close.

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/17/2004 12:36:09 PM   
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HUH? but it converts to steriods and w/ the same side effects. Some people are gainning 20 or more lbs in 2 weeks.

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/17/2004 12:42:16 PM   
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Nothing works as good as the real thing.

You get the same potential side effects though with pro-hormones and steroids.

Logically think about it.

Ronnie Coleman on Pro-hormones? Please.

There probably are a couple of pro-hormones on the market that are VERY potent and pretty much are a steroid.

But it's not 1-AD and the rest of the mainstream products.

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/17/2004 12:52:05 PM   
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You are already on steroids. It's called puberty. Do what I told you before when you PM'd me. Nobody on this site is going to tell you what you want to hear if it's not true. If you want to be a SEAL you better cut the ****. I know a lot of SEALs and they are not big hulks. They are relatively small guys that are all about pushing their bodies to the limit and beyond WITHOUT shortcuts. You need to change your mindset to something along the lines of toughing it out through long and difficult crosstraining type workouts as a way of life. Enjoy how ****ty you can make yourself feel. Prohormones will only make your career goals more difficult to acheive by replacing a challenge with pseudo-success. I am only trying to help you here. I understand where you are coming from, believe me. I was a 150 lb 15 yo and I could barely bench 135. Within a year that changed to me being recognized for my athletic build. It can be the same for you-WITHOUT PHs. Trust me and be patient! You have a lot to lose on this gamble. The decision you make now WILL haunt you for quite some time, I **** you not.

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/17/2004 5:37:08 PM  1 votes
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It appears you haven't done any research on PH's. First of all, your 15 years old, one should be a minimum of at least 23 -25 years old before even attempting to try PH's.

Don't you know that your body is still growing and by taking androgens (PH's) at your age may cause the epiphyseal growth plates to close; thereby, stopping one's growth, not withstanding possible liver damage among other bodily malfunctions. You haven't even mentioned a Post Cycle Therapy process, probably because you don't know what PCT is.

Brother, what the hell are you thinking. What you should be doing is get off the PH's before you really screw up and just eat right and train hard. I just can't believe what I'm reading in some of these posts.


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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/17/2004 7:08:47 PM   
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I ahve an off cycle plan. Mainly leting my body recover and taking those liver pills. ya i really do want to be a SEAL. I know lots of them and most are about 5'8 built great but only from eatting good and busting their ass. i dont intend to take ph's for a long time(only till Jan 16. Maybe not even. I jsut want to put on a good slice of mass now. Can u guys gime me advice on diet lifting and all that stuff while taking these so i can get off of them faster? Thanx! I want to gain weight and i bought N-large 2 vanilla and 4 scoops..I cant finish all that 1 1/2 is lik SOOO bloating. Is there anything else to gain mass besides eating right n stuff (lol). I eat hungry man meals as often as i can, my cross country season is gone now so i jsut want to get big for football next year. SO GUYS PLEASE HELP ME!!! tahnks sooo much, Austin

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/18/2004 6:36:09 AM   
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I ahve an off cycle plan. Mainly leting my body recover and taking those liver pills.


I'm no expert, but I don't believe that is enough. From what I've read, your gonna need some kind of estrogen inhibitor especially being on something as potent as M1T.

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/18/2004 7:53:20 AM   
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I've got an idea. First start paying attention in class when they talk about spelling and grammar. This will help you appear more intelligent in your posts. Now, if you want to get big for football, going on PHs until January 16 is not going to do it. If you are playing football right now on M1-T you are going to get yourself hurt because your ligaments will be tight as hell. Then you are out for the season. What will you do for next year? I guarantee you will not be keeping anything you build from this little experiment of yours except for a nice pair of tits. When you notice your balls are like peanuts instead of eggs you better be taking some 6-OXO. If you want to bulk up the answer is to feed yourself food, not drugs. You can find good examples of nutrition right on this website. Eat six good healthy meals a day for about 3000 calories and drop the soda and chips. You also need rest. Your body only grows while you are sleeping. Work no more than once per week on each body part. If you want to get big for this football season it's too late. Besides, you sound more like a receiver than a lineman, so work on your sprints and hand-eye coordination instead. Follow my advice and you will be bigger next year than if you mess around with these PHs.

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/18/2004 4:59:04 PM   
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lol, i do know how to speel n stuff but i jsut cant type(sorry). Ok i was going to order more ph's but i wont know but i need something to take now that will gain me mass! most protein drinks/shakes only have lik 20g protein, i need 140g or more so thats WAYYY to many shakes. So what can i get? Thank you! P.S.- Should i order PH's and wait until im older to take them?

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/18/2004 5:38:03 PM   
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I'm just gonna pretend that I didn't read this sad thread... Smile

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/18/2004 5:50:12 PM   
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Can I say the same? Smile

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/18/2004 7:16:36 PM   
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y is it bad? arent u supposed to take in as much or more as your body weight? i weight 140lbs so thats 140g of protein? Please correct me on this and tell me what is a good suppliment to gain mass w/. thank you

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/19/2004 7:54:31 AM   
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Look on the side of a tuna fish can. It's all protein, and one can will suffice for one meal. Throw 3 TBSPs of canola or safflower mayo in there and you have your fat serving. Make two sandwiches from it out of 100% whole wheat or grain bread and you have a balanced meal. Tada! No supplements. Meat and dairy are excellent sources of protein and you can only digest 30-40g a shot anyway. Get rid of the Hungry Man meals. Did you ever see that cartoon about "The best things come in wrappers of their own?" Chicken, turkey, fish, cottage cheese, skim milk, fat free cheese, and maybe some lean beef are your proteins. No Soy. Avocadoes, nuts, olive oil, canola oil, safflower oil, flax seed oil, and fish oils are your fats. You need those too. Whole wheat, oats, skim milk, cottage cheese, plain yogurt, wheat germ, oat bran, fruits, and vegetables are your carbs. You wanna get big? Bon Appetit, my man. Thanksgiving is next week. That turkey is all you. Tell your mom not to make the stuffing out of white bread. Skip the pie and cookies. Save the leftovers. Any more than a 4-6 oz cut of meat is a waste. Pass yourself the broccoli, green beans, and spinach. Pour some oil over it. Skip the mashed potatoes unless it is right after a workout. No more butter for you. No more sugar, that's why they made Splenda. Think you can handle it? Did I mention any supplements? You can take creatine if you want. It won't do you any good unless you are eating properly. Don't post again without running spellcheck, ObeKaybe?

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/19/2004 5:00:49 PM   
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lol ya ya w/e i just cant type. Ok ill do every thing u say but should i also take optimum nurition whey protein? thanks

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/19/2004 5:14:33 PM   
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I've read some of your other posts and i dont see why you refuse to take protein.
First off its completly safe unless you take WAY to much in which case you'll just piss most out. But you run off usin PH's and not protein? wth... Just take some protein, eat healthy and workout routinely(word?/sp?) for about 2 years and gain mass the real way Smile

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RE: help w/ Methyl 1-test and 4-ad - 11/19/2004 9:45:54 PM   
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hey , no elephant i am going to start taking protein. Is optimum nutritions whey protein good? I take N-large 2 right now. I will stack it w/ creatine. My final decsion= no Ph's until i get older, but i will order around January 10...sound good?

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