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gzinkl's dalliances - Sunday, July 06, 2008 1:28 PM
Not so much a training journal here, per se, but more of a summary. Plus, I watch a lot of the forum stalwarts training journals. I'm a training journal junkie. So thought I'd post it here anyway. Bad rationalizing, I guess, but one nonetheless! ;)

Anyway, my plan for this season (which goes Fall to Fall - arbitrarily chosen) for this year was planned like this:

September for about 6 weeks: worked with a body-numbing personal trainer; he was great (and $$), but if you're in Chicago and need a shove, I highly recommend him.

Mid-October to early February: bulk (I put on a good 10-15 lbs, but it wasn't all lean)--I peaked this year at 192-195 (I'm 5'11"; 41 yo; BF was 16-17%)
February to March: cut. Went down to 183 (13-14%).
Mid-April: train for endurance sports.

Goals:
Run a 12K, do my first triathlon (Sprint with a baby swim); do my second triathlon (Olympic).

So, here's how this has fallen out.

First, let me be the first to say that an Olympic tri is pushing my abilities. That's a 1.5K swim (1 mile) in Lake Michigan, a 25 mile-ish bike ride, and a 10K run (6.4 miles). It scares the bejeezus out of me.

Background: I ran my first 5K in 2006, which is when I first started running. Ever in my life.

On Thanksgiving, 2007, I ran a TurkeyTrot, in the snow in Chicago, it was a frickin' blast. That was 8K.

1525 (place out of 3153) M 41 104/165 (age division place) 48:05 (time) 9:41 (pace)

In March, I convince my partner and his sister to run with me in the Bay to Bay race in St. Petersburg, Florida. Too bad it was muggy. I mean, really humid, for March! The next day was stunning, but race day wasn't. I was hurting on this day. I had been horribly ill the week prior (missed a whole week of going to work), and I really wasn't quite over it (viral bronchitis). I had new shoes that I had never run far in. My bad. Even though they were "professionally" fitted, it ended up hurting my hips (which had been aggravated by wiping out on my bike on my way to work on some black ice...dumb waves in the lake). Anyway, I still managed to do okay for me, but I suffered for every minute.

I did the 12K (a hair under 7.5 miles), my partner and his sister did the 5K. We go to Sarasota every winter to visit my partner's most amazingly cool 80+ aunt (yeah, the one who's so liberal, I feel conservative. The one who's been going to the same exercise class--with the same teacher--for over 30 years. Yeah, the one who won a senior olympics in swimming. See what I'm up against?). Anyway:

527 (overall; out of 764) 37/47 (age placing/total) 41 M 1:15:44 (chip) 1:16:13 (manual) 10:14 (pace - heat, injury, health really are a drag on this!).

(BTW, the partner did the 5K in 34:21, placed 33/37 for his division (geezers....okay, okay, he's "only" 44), and 329/465 overall; his twin sister ran it in 35:00, and placed 19/28). Pretty good for both of them, especially the sister who's training was pretty limited).

The partner and I next did the Proud to Run. THAT was an amazing day. However, I learned a lesson. It's unreasonable for me to expect to place well at all when competing against a bunch of gay jocks. Jeez. It was a 10K for me:

39 (out of 46-age division--no overall rankings :( ) 41 M 1:01:03 (pace: 9:51).

Today was one of the greatest days of my athletic life. (Note: saying "athlete" and "gzinkl" in the same phrase, especially in high school, would have been followed by much laughter and merry making, even from me...). I did my first triathlon. Cool beans. My goal was to finish. I did! I was shocked at the timings by the guys in my age group. They are quite speedy. Inspiration. Especially from the 70 yo's who were doing this (one guy was 77!).

Distances were:
Swim: 1/4 mi; Bike: 12.5 mi; Run: 3 mi. The weather was gorgeous; 60's and sunny; the lake, however, while beautifully clear, didn't melt much sooner than yesterday (ok, it wasn't that bad; I just love that line. It was 62 F). You bet I was wearing a wetsuit.

34/39 (age division; told you they were a speedy bunch) 298 (overall) 42 1:22:49

Swim 33 (AD place) 9:49 (swim) 6:34 (transition -- oops)
Bike 31 37:19 (bike) 1:06 (transition -- that's better)
Run 35 28:04 (run)

I almost cried doing the race I was so psyched after two years of training that I was doing it. And loving it.

I thought I'd be more certain about the olympic tri in late August, but not yet. I need to get some of my distances up. Chop chop!

I will probably follow the same seasonal plan as last year, but will incorporate more swimming. I have to say that doing seasonal plans sure makes exercising a lot more interesting and fun.
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RE: gzinkl's dalliances - Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:41 PM
I'm thinking of doing a tri in the fall. I'll be watching your journal!
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RE: gzinkl's dalliances - Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:58 PM
Hey Gzinkl sounds like you're doing great!
Congrats on all the accomplishments!
I've been thinking alot lately about taking up running...
I quit smoking in feb of this year,after a 28 year habit...I've noticed already,increased lung capacity...but I haven't gotten around to it....LOL...too much bulking going on right now...HaHaHa!
 
But I'll be keeping an eye on this journal,and seeing how its all coming together.
 
BTW...great to see you back...hadn't seen you post in a while!
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RE: gzinkl's dalliances - Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:25 PM
Nice times Greg.  I have done 2 kms races this summer so far and have another planned for the fall.  I am hoping to bring my time to mid to low 20's this year. 
Next year I will run a half marathon but I couldn't do a tri!  I hate cold water.  Congrats and keep training hard for that olympic triathalon.

BTW what shoes were you fitted into?
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Re: RE: gzinkl's dalliances - Saturday, August 16, 2008 3:52 PM
Ok, I'm about to do the Chicago triathlon, international distance. I'm confident in the swim, and fairly confident in the bike and a little hesitant on the run. Reason being that I felt my swim was so weak, I concentrated mostly on that. I did a 5K last week, and while I set new personal bests (FOUR of them), I was unhappy with how spent I was. I guess I won't be running as fast next Sunday.

Anyway, I'm trying to put into place my program until next race season. (I'm assuming I'm going to have another positive tri experience!). I think I'm putting myself through Pilates to strengthen my core, with the idea that when I start a bulking regime, the base is solid. What do you think?

I can't decide what to do in conjunction with the Pilates. The class starts 2 weeks after the triathlon, and I understand the need to "de-train" a bit from the endurance stuff. I'm assuming that even if the class meets only once a week, you can probably do them 2x a week? I'm totally new to this stuff. It's a 12 week class. What should I do on the intervening days? I'm thinking of just very low key endurance stuff--baby distances. When the Pilates class is over, I think I'll bulk for awhile, but the other wrench is I want to do a half marathon at the end of April in St. Louis. Any ideas or insights are welcome.

Thanks!
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Re: RE: gzinkl's dalliances - Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:27 PM
Do you train LSD, INT and high intensity? It's a style not sure if you do. Because I would just cut down to medium distance at LSD pace for a while.

Example LSD is long slow distance. Comfortable pace that you can talk at (or not if swimming.lol) but cut the distance in half. So if you would run 3 miles at LSD pace only run 1.5. Just an idea.. :)
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Re: RE: gzinkl's dalliances - Monday, September 01, 2008 6:05 PM
Update/Report on Chicago triathlon (international distance). WARNING: long-winded report follows.

Summary: Ouch. Long-winded recounting follows.

The day started early. Transition (where you park your bike and running stuff) opened at 4:15 a.m and closed at 5:45 a.m.  Being the ****y guy that I am, I thought I'd get a little extra sleep, so I didn't get up until 4:30. I had every thing ready to go, so I ate some breakfast, and left by 4:45 a.m.  I live about 4.5 miles away from the area, easily bikeable. Two errors: thinking that getting to transition by 5:15 a.m. would mean still plenty of room to park the bike (nope nope nope, it was mighty crowded), and that the bike path (along the lake) would be relatively free. Apparently all of the north side of Chicago triathlon athletes had the *exact* same plan. I've never seen so many bicyclists out on the path at that hour in my life.

There was something like 50ish waves--you're grouped by age, and distance, and then sometimes subdivided if your group is big, I think. I was in the 40-45 yo, international distance guys. Our wave was no. 31--which didn't get to start until 8:21! The first wave started at 6 a.m. (reserved for veterans of the event--there were people there who've done it since inception, about 28 years....). The pros started at 11 a.m.! So what do you do for 2.5 hours? I shopped out the swimming area and route, and then...waited in line for the bathroom!

Finally, it was our turn. The swim was the best part, which was interesting because it was the worst part in my sprint triathlon in July. I rounded the first corner, and couldn't believe it - that was a quarter of the way done. I fully expected to be overtaken by at least the two waves behind us (and I was), but my problem was trying to pass others, not stop when I hit someone, and for crying out loud, swim in a straight line! The other challenge was that Monroe harbor smelled like gas. Apparently, my instinct was to try to smell the gas (is that really gas?) and inhaled a nose full of harbor water. Blech. (and can we talk about the bottom of the harbor? Totally disgusting).

The swim was 1500 m (about a mile). The transition was 400 m away! I got out, shed the wetsuit, and started heading to the transition when, of course, nature called. There was a bathroom along the route, and apparently I wasn't alone. What I didn't know was that they counted the time it took you from getting out of the water to enter transition as all part of the swim! I was in the water 37 minutes, but the unofficial time, including potty break, is 40! UGH! On the other hand, 37 minutes is really good for me compared to the first tri. I was as fast, if not faster, on a pace basis. You expect to be significantly slower on longer distances, so that was a pretty good improvement in 6 weeks.

The weather, by the way, was stunning. The lake water perfect temperature, and I understand why they moved the swim to gassy Monroe Harbor from Ohio Street Beach: no waves. Ohio Street Beach was almost unswimmable that day.

So got to the bike (YAY! This was my strongest event last time). The route was Randolph to Foster, back to Chicago, back to Foster, and then off at Randolph (Lakeshore Drive; they closed the two inner lanes for us--pretty cool).

What was NOT cool was the wind. It's been a pretty calm summer all season, wind-wise, so this was a real bummer. It blew (or so it felt) south, so the northern leg, especially the second time, was really hard. Having it at your back was great, but it was hard to take advantage of it when I was so pooped from going north. I need to learn to spin better. They had said at orientation that if you got a flat, you were done with the race, so I hadn't packed a spare tube. That was a lie. People found ways to fix their flats while staying out of the way (I hear one woman got off the course, went to a bike shop to have her flat repaired, and then finished the race!). It was interesting--the $5K to 20K bikes seemed to flat more than us lowly 1.5K and less bikes. I couldn't believe how many people flatted. Partly has to be the condition of the Drive, which is atrocious on the north side, especially if your heading south, especially around Foster. Although the route was very cool, you couldn't watch much of it as you had to really pay attention to the pavement, and there were a bunch of tools who thought it pretty nifty to pass incorrectly and annoy everyone, so you had to be looking over your shoulder all the time. There was also an awful lot of bike water bottles (full and empty) along the route, plus some other bike-related debris that I couldn't identify, and of course, dead bike tires. I am amazed at how fast some people can go. There were a lot of women smoking some pretty geared up men in the passing lane. Pretty amusing.  There were a couple of guys who didn't have functional legs, so they had contraptions that let them "pedal" with their hands. Pretty inspiring. The wind killed my time. 90 minutes! UGH. Although now that I do the math, it's a little faster pace than my first tri.

(*When I went to get my bike out the next day to commute to work, the rear wheel was ruined. The spokes were lose, and the rim was very bent. When the bike shop trued it, they had no confidence in the wheel, the tension was so uneven, which meant to be safe, new wheel. UGH. That was expensive. It also meant that I probably ruined it during the race, and that I biked at least part of the race with the rear brake rubbing the tire. Now that makes me angry!)

Finally got back to transition, changed into the running shoes and stood up. Ouch. The bike ride had done a number on my butt! I was ready this time for the awful transition from being pretty swift on the bike to feeling like you're not moving at all in the run. But let me tell you, the first mile marker cannot come fast enough. The route was a criss-crossy-thing around the museum campus, down to 31st and back to end at Balbo and Columbus. Even though the run is fairly flat, there is no shade whatsoever, and even that day, a mildish 78, you really felt it. 80 minutes for the run (less, but don't know transition--last time I did a 10K, I was at 61 minutes, and that's pretty pokey, too). That was very slow, although at the time, I didn't think it was so slow for being tired. But compared to the first tri, it's significantly slower. It will be interesting to see the official results which will have it all split up. Anyway, I was doing my usual run-walk thing, except when I saw the 6 mile marker, I still had a little left in me, so I sped up for the finish line. Only two incidents. One was a guy who was down and had to be fetched by an ambulance, and the second was some Nimrod thought it'd be really cool to bike with all the runners. Boy did he get thrown off the course by the officials fast and with little tact.

I was a very happy camper at the finish line, and I didn't even throw up. :) I could hardly move my legs for the rest of the day. My partner and I went to a favorite neighborhood restaurant to celebrate. In a cab.

Here are the official times, if you're still reading:

Overall Rank Class Rank Swim Swim Rank Trans1 Bike Bike Rank MPH Trans2 Run Run Rank Pace Sex Rank Final 3155 of 4103 355 of 403 00:40:18 3359 00:04:25 01:27:12 3028 17.0 00:05:06 01:05:00 2948 00:10:29 2349/2804 03:22:02
Next season (yeah, this was fun!), my goal is moving from just finishing, to improving my times. I'd like to do the international in under 3 hours.

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Re: RE: gzinkl's dalliances - Monday, September 01, 2008 6:12 PM
well im impressed! long time no see around here glad to see a post!
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Re: RE: gzinkl's dalliances - Monday, September 01, 2008 6:19 PM
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well im impressed! long time no see around here glad to see a post!


Hey, thanks! I'm kind of excited to see how mass-building season goes with the core that I had to have developed during tri training, and a stint of Pilates that I'm starting in a couple of weeks...

The most exciting part of this whole experience has been finding athletic activities that I actually enjoy. I'm beginning to understand the addictive nature of this....;)

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Re: RE: gzinkl's dalliances - Monday, September 01, 2008 7:18 PM
thats awesome, and more power to you finding something you really enjoy thats hard to come by these days.  As for the mass building, you and me both lol
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Re: RE: gzinkl's dalliances - Tuesday, September 02, 2008 7:03 PM
Great job Greg.  I have another 5k on Sept 21st and a 10k on Oct 12. 

Are you planning for any more triathlon's this season?  What about next season?  Can you see an ironman tri in your future?

I am doing a half-marathon in the spring and maybe I'll push for a full marathon in the fall of 09'.

I also want to do an olympic tri in 2010.

Keep up the hard work!


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Re: RE: gzinkl's dalliances - Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:14 AM
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Great job Greg.  I have another 5k on Sept 21st and a 10k on Oct 12. 

Are you planning for any more triathlon's this season?  What about next season?  Can you see an ironman tri in your future?

I am doing a half-marathon in the spring and maybe I'll push for a full marathon in the fall of 09'.

I also want to do an olympic tri in 2010.

Keep up the hard work!


Wow, Sheep, you've come a long way! No more tris for this season. Completing one was my goal, and I did two. I was hoping for a sprint, and I managed the challenge of an international. I'm such a smug little camper right now, I'm unbearable :).

My plans are similar. The partner and I are running a 5K (he's not much of a racer, but I sign him up anyway and then let him know...;)  ) on Saturday, and then we'll do a Turkey Trot together. Meanwhile, I'm aiming for a half marathon in the Spring; I will be signing up the partner for a marathon as part of the same event (and as part of a 4 man relay team! I'm not that evil). Then it will be tri season again :). I'll do two, maybe three. My undergraduate school just instituted one in memory of a guy from my class who was shot down in the line of duty as a cop, so I think it would be a good thing to participate in that one, and I really liked my first tri (smallish, and the routes were just beautiful). And of course, Chicago's is an "experience" because of how gigantic it is; why not? :)

Maybe we'll "run" into each other at a race sometime! (sorry, couldn't resist the awful pun).

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