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first timer here... - Friday, May 14, 2004 9:14 PM ( #1 )
well i started workin out in january and did the eating good, multi vitamin, protien shakes, and b complex. i gained about 4 lbs. went from 150 to 154. then in march in addtion to these i started on NO2. in that month i gained an extra 4lbs. i was now at 158(5'11)(i am 24 ). i hurt my forearms. and haven't lifted in a month now. i will be satrting agian tomarrow. i work out 5-6 times a week and i try to do a well rounded set. i am, as most skinny dorks are, lookin to bulk up. i am really into MMA and I need to put on some muscle. my problem areas are my wrists and my beer belly (from college). i did curls with my wrists and tons of sit ups and leg lifts with some results for my gut(i ran a little too), but absolutely none for my wrists. so if someone can give me some pointers there that would be great. oh and just little side note on the NO2 i never felt those pumps but whatever i worked out that day would be rock hard and if i flexed the same thing, rock hard. the NO2 does increae your appetite and that was great for me because i had a have a hard time chokin down all the food. so i am not sure if it was becaus eof my increased appitite or the hemodulation that helped me out. i took some extreme AAKG stuff before that and it sucked my bawls. okay here is what i will be workin with when i go back. wrist and gut help is appreciated...any otehr questions or comments are welcomed.




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RE: first timer here... - Saturday, May 15, 2004 4:05 AM ( #2 )
Not a bad place to start- You've got some definition and muscle, even in the gut area you're complaining about. If you're looking to have your abs show through more, you've got to do it through proper nutrition and cardio- All the situps in the world will only build the muscle under the fat, and in order to burn that fat off, you have to burn fat all over. There's no such thing as spot reduction. As far as the wrists go, just do a normal forearm workout along with the rest- Please post the workout you're going to be doing to give us more info- But keep in mind your wrists get a pretty good workout from all the other lifts you'll be doing- If you really hit them hard, the stress they get when you're doing other exercises might be a little too much- Make sure you give them plenty of time to heal, and try not to overdo the amount of weight you lift, that could have been a cause of your initial problems.
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RE: first timer here... - Saturday, May 15, 2004 8:12 PM ( #3 )
routine usually goes:
I try to do 3 exercises for each, 4 sets and usually when i reach the end of the sets i am stuggling(10 reps)
day1-chest, tri, abs
day2-shoulders, bi, and some cardio
day3-back and abs
day4-legday
day5-forearms abs
day 6-either rest or start over

i will also throw some forearms inbetween sets
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RE: first timer here... - Sunday, May 16, 2004 2:51 PM ( #4 )
A little more advice- You said you're trying to bulk up- You should be lifting heavier. Ten reps per set is pretty high, perhaps you could try a weight that you can only do six to eight reps with- A lot of people here use the Max OT program, which has you doing only four to six reps per set. I followed that for a while myself (I'll be going back to it soon) and I had great results. The idea is to overload the muscle with a weight that's heavier than it's used to lifting- This tells the body to adapt to that weight by growing more muscle.
The only problem with bulking is that you have to gain some fat when you're bulking right. The layer of fat you might have on your abs will hang around there until you go into a cutting phase- And during a cutting phase, you don't really gain any muscle. You might have to choose between your goals here- Do you want to see those abs first, or put on some more size first?
One more note, about your workout- Looks good, but if you want to get the most out of your chest, tricep and shoulder workouts, you should space them out from each other. During the bench press, your shoulders and triceps do a lot of work even though it targets the chest more than anything. If you work your triceps before your chest on day 1, your bench press will suffer- You won't be able to lift to your full potential, thereby cheating your chest of a good workout. It's the same thing the other way around, and the same thing with shoulders- They'll need more than a day to recover from a good chest workout for you to really work them to their potential. Here's the routine I followed when I was on Max OT-
Monday- Chest
Tuesday- Legs
Wednesday- Shoulders
Thursday- Back
Friday- Arms
I'd also throw in a forearm and ab workout in there on whatever day I chose that week.
Also, I'd advise against throwing in extra forearm workouts- Hit them hard when it's their turn during the week, and then let them heal. Remember, muscle grows while it's at rest, not while you're in the gym.
Hope this helps!
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RE: first timer here... - Sunday, May 16, 2004 4:25 PM ( #5 )
where do you think i should throw the cardio in? and how many abs should i throw in a week or should it just be one? thanks for the advice though.
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RE: first timer here... - Sunday, May 16, 2004 6:08 PM ( #6 )
I'd say if you're trying to bulk don't do any cardio. As far as abs, I wouldn't know...LOL. I am not currently doing them. If I were going to do them, I'd probably do it on "short" day like Chest, Shoulders, or Back. IMHO, I'm too wasted at the end of Leg day to do anything but eat and sleep. On arm day I'm so pumped after my workout that I can't sit there and work my abs...LOL.
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RE: first timer here... - Sunday, May 16, 2004 7:34 PM ( #7 )
I'm not doing any cardio right now either, since I'm trying to bulk- Cardio does get in the way of bulking somewhat, since it burns off calories you're trying to use to build muscle.
But, a couple of light cardio sessions a week, about twenty minutes each, shouldn't hurt you too much.
Like Slayerboy said, throw in the abs on a day you think you could handle them- Try not to spend too much time on any given day in the gym.
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RE: first timer here... - Monday, May 17, 2004 10:26 AM ( #8 )
sweet...thanks for the help guys. i will be sure to keep you guys updated on the results.
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