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exercie routine for a soon to be soldier - 1/31/2006 7:51:58 PM   
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hello all
I'm look for a way to add a lot of strength in the next 6-8 months what I will
be needing to do is proabley closest to a triathlete, can any one point me to a
good list of exercie routine's maybe.
info you may need I'm a skinny sh!$ with a very fast metabolism, 6'1" 152lbs
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RE: exercie routine for a soon to be soldier - 1/31/2006 7:57:37 PM   
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I was looking at my dads military standards sheet the other day and you need to be able to do 100 pushups none stop. Also run 2 miles in 15 minutes and do like 80 situps none stop. So I would suggest all endurance work(pushups, pullups, situps, and jogging trying to get a lower time each time in 2 mil run), working your way up to those standards that way you don't go in unready.

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RE: exercie routine for a soon to be soldier - 2/1/2006 6:19:39 AM   
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Indeed. Endurance is a big key factor in keeping up with, and or being prepared for the military. Which branch are you going into? The biggest thing for me during bootcamp was the running. I could do everything else ok, even the running, but it killed my legs. I would suggest running ALOT, build up the muscles around the calf area, and work on your breathing while running. If you plan on going into any other type of special rate though, (buds, sars, and the likes) let me know. I've got a pretty good schedual that would help out alot till you enterd boot if you were conistant with it.

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RE: exercie routine for a soon to be soldier - 2/1/2006 7:46:16 AM   
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I'm go army with long term goal in SF(special forces) and I need to run the 2mile in 9:30 or less and yeah 100 pushups in two min's
and 100 set-up's in two mins but for my Ranger school I need a huge amount of brut strength to make it through the Darby queen obstacle course
and I have a Ranger school perparation sheet that say's I need to be able to bench press 20reps 4set's at 80% body weight right now
I'm at 4set's 12reps at 70%BW.

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RE: exercie routine for a soon to be soldier - 2/1/2006 8:35:18 AM   
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EAT!

And train hard...
Keep pushing the runs and the bench, train the whole body with higher weights and lower reps 6-8 range, to build up overall strength!  Then rotate into 20-25 reps for the endurance with heavier weights!

Train beyond what they expect!

Shoot for 120 push ups and step ups in 2 minutes!
9:00 2 mile run...and 15-18 minute 3 mile

Train your mind to forget pain exists, except as something you truely enjoy.

I love that O course!!!
I could do that twice before breakfast! 
Hoooo-Ya!
It's better than Disneyland!

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RE: exercie routine for a soon to be soldier - 2/1/2006 2:23:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: danmirage

Train your mind to forget pain exists, except as something your truely enjoy.



Agreed! Over the past couple of years I have learned to do this. It is GREAT. To many times in the beginning of my career I would let pain get to my head, and fatigue would easily set in right after that. Try to keep a clear mind. I usally focus on nothing and just put my body into machine mode. It knows what it has to do.Smile

Sometimes the biggest guys can't make it into the special forces area. Alot of it has to do with endurance and just how much abuse ones body can handle. So push yourself in all areas. Once you find a workout that you have troubles with, work the hell out of it! Take the months you have off till you have to leave serious. Train very hard because it is really no joke when it comes to special forces. You do have to be the BEST of the best. Oh and do like 9 million pull ups a day.Smile

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RE: exercie routine for a soon to be soldier - 2/1/2006 2:49:12 PM   
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thanks guy's I already have a bit of a head start my cousin is a army special forces green beret
and I that how I came up with the 9:30 2mile run time all "need" to do in 10something my cousin's time was
9:06 and I've found that I like the "burn"  or  "pain"  as some say so I'm good to go what I've really
been having trouble with is deciding if i should join a gym at home I only have a little room in the grarge
to fit my bench and weights but I dont want to deal with alot of peple like at my local gold's gym where
my cousin go'es I generally work out after work like about 7pm-ish is there a way I can find out if there
are any member's near me that might be able to recommend a gym?

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RE: exercie routine for a soon to be soldier - 2/1/2006 3:07:26 PM   
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If you have the weights, go to the recruiting station and find someone else going in same time as you and get a training partner!

You can always post a question in the appropriate forum looking for folk in your area..
"Looking for W/O partner in Westfield, WI" kind of thing.

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RE: exercie routine for a soon to be soldier - 2/1/2006 3:16:59 PM   
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you read my mind I did so in the "out of bounds" forum unfortunetly there no other serious recruits right now.

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RE: exercie routine for a soon to be soldier - 2/2/2006 9:00:44 AM   
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hhmm still havent really answered my question I need to find a routine that will work or how do I make one?

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RE: exercie routine for a soon to be soldier - 2/2/2006 12:22:10 PM   
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Well, I gave you some guidelines..but for more specifics...

quote:

for a way to add a lot of strength in the next 6-8 months what I will
be needing to do is proabley closest to a triathlete


You mention strength and endurance above.

Strength is the ability to control heavy weights of a range of motion...so which is it? 

I know you DO need to get stronger, but what us really the primary focus...training routines are specific to goals.

How much time do you have?

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RE: exercie routine for a soon to be soldier - 2/2/2006 3:11:07 PM   
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6-8 months, thats whats killing me how do I get strength and endurance at the same time? I guess the primary goal
is strength with  a LOT cardio eg runing

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RE: exercise routine for a soon to be soldier - 2/2/2006 3:21:24 PM   
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Holy cow 6-8 months! 
You have plenty of time!

Start with strength training! 
3 months should see you get much stronger.
Take a break of 1 week and then start 3 months of endurance training with the newer heavy weights...if you are not yet at your weight goal by then I would be surprised!

And do the running.
Do the eating!

Train your whole body  
Chest
Back (upper/lower)
Legs (Hamstrings, Quads, Glutes)
Triceps
Biceps
Shoulders (back, medial and front and traps)
Calf
Abs

Optimal set / rep ranges and days between:
For muscular Endurance the rep range is 12-25 / 1-3 sets / 4-7 days between working a bodypart again
For muscle size rep range is 9-12 / 3 -4 sets per bodypart / 4-7 days between working a bodypart again
For Strength (vs. power) the rep range is 6-8 / 3-4 sets per bodypart / 4-7 days between working a bodypart again
For Power the rep range is 1-5  / 4-8 sets per bodypart / 2-3 days between working a bodypart again

At least 4-6 meals a day!
Every 2-3 hours or so.
7am - 10am - 1pm - 4pm - 7pm  For instance.
Make sure you are getting what you need!

Go to this post to figure your daily calories if you don't have a clue.
Calories needed per day for various goals<------ link for you to click
At the bottom of the post is a link to a spreadsheet/calculator that you can use... put in your info and use the appropriate column for your goal.

Use fitday.com to plan meals to get what you need not just as a meal journal...it is free!

You are looking for:
Protein-15-30%,
carbohydrates-40-75%,
fat-10-30%
...of your total calories

The ideal range of protein for growth is .6-.9 grams per pound of body weight.

If you are a light eater and meats sit like a brick in your tummy then go for the lower part of that range. 
If you enjoy meats and could eat them many times in the day, and they give you energy...go for the higher end.

Target the fat % on the scale proportionate with the protein.
Then inversely proportion the carbs to the protein.

Foods should be fresh whole foods. 

Morning example:
eggs, hot rice cereal, hot amaranth or oatmeal, milk

Other meals:
1 cup veggies
2-4 ounces of a protein (Chicken, Turkey, Fish, Steak, tofu...)
1/2 - 1 cup of a carbohydrate (rice, quinoa, pasta, baked sweet potato, potato...)
It depends on your preferences and your body chemistry.  Everyone IS different in the way they digest and use food.  You have to work with it to find what gives you the most energy and power, focus and good feeling.

Basics:

Keep the training under an hour
Do not over train
8-12 cups water minimum a day!!!
Multivitamin to support growth!
8 hours sleep a night

If you start losing weight, increase the calories 500!

Questions? 
Then GET TO IT!
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RE: exercise routine for a soon to be soldier - 2/2/2006 3:38:36 PM   
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now that is what I need thanks.
one more thing how should I group the work outs eg monday chest ?? tuesday what?? any good books
I should get?

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