estimating body fat

not really looking for a critique of the pic cause i know it sucks lol but from what u can see (kinda hard with a camera phone) what would u guess my bodyfat is?

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and also how much higher bf% would u say it is than this pic. (again crappy with camera phone). sorry for the different angle and smaller pic

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I'd say ~12%.  By "this pic" I assume your av... and I'm no good at guessing from back shots, there's not enough fat stores in the back to give an accurate judgement IMO

EDIT: i see that attatched pic now haha.  again it is hard to judge because your standing at two different angles, but maybe 1-2% diff??  I'm not sure tho

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I'd say ~12%.  By "this pic" I assume your av... and I'm no good at guessing from back shots, there's not enough fat stores in the back to give an accurate judgement IMO

EDIT: i see that attatched pic now haha.  again it is hard to judge because your standing at two different angles, but maybe 1-2% diff??  I'm not sure tho

no not the avatar one lol, just the attached one.
so what would u say for those?  i cant really tell that well cause sometimes i look completely soft and other times i can see some veins and definition.

That's what I was saying in the edit.  Again it's a rough guess, but I would say around 12 in the first pic you posted and 10 in the second pic.  I would wait for a second opinion tho.

10.5 and 12%....it is hard to tell from your pics.

Do you work out at a gym? If so, they can probably give a basis BF analysis. It's always hard to judge from photos. People retain fat in different percentages throughout their body. Just something to keep in mind. For example I carry the least amount of fat in my arms and the most amount of fat in my legs which surprised me because others perceive me as having very lean legs but in actuality my legs have the largest percentage of fat in comparison to the rest of my body. My gym provided me with body fat analysis at no charge. It's worth inquiring.

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Do you work out at a gym? If so, they can probably give a basis BF analysis. It's always hard to judge from photos. People retain fat in different percentages throughout their body. Just something to keep in mind. For example I carry the least amount of fat in my arms and the most amount of fat in my legs which surprised me because others perceive me as having very lean legs but in actuality my legs have the largest percentage of fat in comparison to the rest of my body. My gym provided me with body fat analysis at no charge. It's worth inquiring.

i have calipers and have taken my bf% 2 ways, i was just wondering what people think because one method (the usually less accurate method) is telling me 12.9% and the calipers are saying about 14.5%

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Do you work out at a gym? If so, they can probably give a basis BF analysis. It's always hard to judge from photos. People retain fat in different percentages throughout their body. Just something to keep in mind. For example I carry the least amount of fat in my arms and the most amount of fat in my legs which surprised me because others perceive me as having very lean legs but in actuality my legs have the largest percentage of fat in comparison to the rest of my body. My gym provided me with body fat analysis at no charge. It's worth inquiring.

I think that's what most women want.

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I think that's what most women want.


Higher fat % in their legs?

i'd guess around 14%.  really no no idea though

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dude if you keep a clean bulk for like 2 years and lift mad heavy your gonna be a f'ing beast.

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I think that's what most women want.

Higher fat % in their legs?


Glutes, specifically.  Nobody likes a bony ass .

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I think that's what most women want.

Higher fat % in their legs?


Glutes, specifically.  Nobody likes a bony ass .

As long as there's no cellulite

id say 10-11

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im 10-11 in my avatar, no offence, but thats not 10 or 11, its about 14-15%, its the illusion of not massive muscles, thin people with fat look less bodyfat than they actually have....if that makes sense?

yea thats what i've always said. i could get to 15-16%bf without looking fat cause i dont have much muscle but any pro Bodybuilder is gonna start looking fat around 12%

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Anyway david ive been reading your posts for ages now about how you're all fat etc, when you clearly aren't, you need to do some nice extreme clean bulking my friend, you have some nice tricep and bicep formation but you need to get bigger muscles man, get lifting!

i never said i was fat, just that i gain fat really easily which is completely true. i always try to clean bulk but my last one went horribly.

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hmmmy rmmmy hmmmy, i wish i could help you but i cant.

Though, from my knowledge you have tried many diets yar?

I know this forum is correct in saying to eat many MANY calories in order to gain muscle weight, which is very true, but have you ever thought of eating maintenance calories and lifting seriously hard, the worst that can happen is you lose more fat, which isnt needed, but its not bad either lol.

i wish. for some reason i either have to be gaining muscle or losing fat and i cant seem to gain muscle too well right now. i wish i could talk to an expert.   actually did, i talked to Danmirage and he helped with my diet, training, etc... but out of i think 6 weeks i gained muscle and lost fat 2 weeks and lost muscle and gained fat 4 weeks. so in the end it still sucked.
then i listened to everyone and put the calipers away and i was thinking i lost 2lb of fat and gained 2lb. of muscle with the measurements i was taking but then i checked with the calipers and i hadnt really changed at all. just less muscle actually. and i would trust the calipers much more since its more accurate than waist meausurements

idk whats up, i just dont seem to be going anywhere right now which really annoys me cause u get some random kids who dont know **** making great gains just doing whatever. i seem to be able to lose fat fairly well but as far as muscle i've been getting smaller basically since september, slowly but still its annoying

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personal question but whats your libido like?

Got any test levels from bloodwork done recently?

Any infertility in the family?

if by libido u mean sex drive then i'm horny all the time like most teens lol, no infertility as far as i know but i've never asked

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The inability to gain muscle on the kind of food you eat with training is weird, gaining fat with it or not, you should be able to gain muscle like anyone else at your current weight and age, maybe you shouldnt worry too much about fat or anything and do a massive 4-6 months programme.

thats the thing, i think i do have the potential to gain a lot of muscle, its just somethings happened recently which i attributed to being too obsessed with caliper measurements but idk. i mean in the past i've always been losing fat or gaining muscle fairly well. my last long bulk was about 6 months and i got comments from a friend how i was bigger and my parents commented a few times on how big my back was getting

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Remember david i spent 2 years going from 145-155lbs like a fool, funnily enough it was also dan mirage that got me out of that rut, i was too busy measuring myself every couple of days or week and not getting progress i kept changing things etc, and my body was just going "wtf are you doing?" sat in the corner and had a hissy fit as it were, then about 1 1/2 years ago i threw away everything apart from some scales, i got my sister to hide the tape measure (as it wasnt mine to throw LOL) and just got on with lifting and eating, sure even i with my metabolism gained fat, ive gone up to nearly 14% before, and ive also hit sickening 6% (estimates). Just keep eating and lifting.

lol sounds like my situation except ur an ecto, not that getting muscular is easy for u but it's simple. for me i have to worry so much about gaining fat which could have been the problem..idk really

Damn dude, you are obsessed seriously.  You're always talking about "I gained this much muscle and lost this much fat in this amount of time." 
 
Just build a tent in the squat rack at your gym and live there for the next year.  You can do every exercise you need to right there in that squat rack.  Then eat an assbuttload of food. 
 
I don't give a flying rats a** if you think you gained 2 lbs. of muscle and therefore you had a good couple weeks.  I also don't give a s*** if you think you gained 4 lbs. of fat and you think you need to cut.  It doesn't matter what happens week to week. 
 
You are skinny.  I can see muscle, but not much.  You need like 20 lbs. of muscle.  You don't need to 'clean bulk' and you definately shouldn't need to cut until you're at least 42 years old.  You need to live in the squat rack and eat tons of food, stop counting calories and taking measurements.  The only measurements you should be taking are how long you're consistently able to add weight to the bar from workout-to-workout AND how big your turds are, because if they are too small then you're not eating enough.
 
I don't know why I bother, you will be cutting again in a month anyway .
 
I hope I sounded harsh.
 
 

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Damn dude, you are obsessed seriously.  You're always talking about "I gained this much muscle and lost this much fat in this amount of time." 

Just build a tent in the squat rack at your gym and live there for the next year.  You can do every exercise you need to right there in that squat rack.  Then eat an assbuttload of food. 

I don't give a flying rats a** if you think you gained 2 lbs. of muscle and therefore you had a good couple weeks.  I also don't give a s*** if you think you gained 4 lbs. of fat and you think you need to cut.  It doesn't matter what happens week to week. 

You are skinny.  I can see muscle, but not much.  You need like 20 lbs. of muscle.  You don't need to 'clean bulk' and you definately shouldn't need to cut until you're at least 42 years old.  You need to live in the squat rack and eat tons of food, stop counting calories and taking measurements.  The only measurements you should be taking are how long you're consistently able to add weight to the bar from workout-to-workout AND how big your turds are, because if they are too small then you're not eating enough.

I don't know why I bother, you will be cutting again in a month anyway .

I hope I sounded harsh.

lol well when i go to harvard over the summer i'll have to listen to you cause i dont have a choice. I'm just gonna have to eat whats there. I'll make the best choices i can but its not like i could count calories even if i wanted to.

I'm all about healthy eating, just not about counting calories.

See look at my latest pic.  It's nothing THAT impressive honestly definition-wise, but look at my size.  I used to be as skinny as you exactly 11 months ago (okay maybe 11 1/2).  I did my thing, and I'm now this size (I think I went from like 160 to 195).  I plan on continuing what I've been doing for at least another year, then I may go on a hardcore cut.  I packed on a good amount of mass in a year just by lifting heavy and eating a lot, so I feel like I am worthy of giving others' advice on how to get bigger. 

Clean bulking and endless cycles of bulking/cutting are not the answer.

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yea but i dont feel like ever getting near 20% bf, especially in highschool. i gotta say i am pretty impressed with the muscle u put on but sti...

when did u post pics?

edit: nvm, just saw the pic. u look totally different than i expected.

What did you expect?
 
and for the record chicks dig fat hairy dudes.

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now that i think about it u were never 160 on this forum right? u signed up about 180 after doing NROL for awhile right?

No, I joined this forum about 2 weeks after I started NROL, which was about the time I was like 160ish.  That's when I first started lifting 'for real' as opposed to the garbage waste of time routine I used to do for years.

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you really dont need to worry about your bodyfat its not like your weeks away from a comp,, no offence but i think you worry to much about advanced theorys to do with bodybuilding etc the fact of the matter is if you lift big, and eat big you will get bigger and stronger.. just get some food down you.. the bigger you get the more fat you will be capable of burning..

 

deadlifts: 550 lbs
bench press:370 lbs
militery press : 265 lbs
squat : 425
bw: 209