JMBS
Chalky Palms
they are caps, the injection talk was off topic
I think I'm the one who brought up questions about injection. I'm living up to my new title! ;)
Seriously, I didn't mean to veer off topic. Veg implied the Epi was injectible because he said orals
are unsafe because they have to be made stronger to survive digestion or something. Veg, do
you have capsules or an injectible solution? If they're caps, what was your post all about?
It's all about a dangling modifer... let me rephrase:
As for prohormones being more dangerous than steroids en masse, I think that misconception owes to the fact that the majority of prohormones available to the public are orals, and the hoops chemists must jump through to make these compounds survive digestion makes them harder on the liver than injectable
steroids. But that ignores the fact that there are oral steroids as well.
I was trying to diffuse a faulty syllogism:
"Oral steroids are more dangerous than injectable ones (because of the added hepatotoxicity), and most prohormones are oral; therefore most prohormones are more dangerous than [injectable] steroids." This falsely assumes that all prohormones are alkylated (and therefor hepatotoxic), just because they are oral.
The point is,
some prohormones
can survive digestion and affect the target androgen receptors
without being alkylated and hence
not be more dangerous than their elicit counterparts. They certainly don't include any of the
OTHER risks associated with
needle use, which (IMO) just adds another horrifying level of uncertainty to the bargain.
We've got to be more specific when we toss around terms like "Steroid", and avoid lumping all anabolic supplements under the same umbrella. That kind of hysteria is better left to the unwashed masses