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critique my ph cycle - 3/31/2004 3:57:57 PM

takedownII

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Hey bro's, I am getting ready to do my 1st prohormone cycle. It is a stack of ergopharm 1ad and 4ad. I am a 22 years old, 190 pounds, and about 10% body fat. I have researched this topic tremendously and now all I need is your guy's final touch on my dosages. Here it is:

Week 1:
Day 1-100mg 1ad/300mg 4ad
Day 2-100mg 1ad/300mg 4ad
Day 3-200mg 1ad/600mg 4ad
Day 4-200mg 1ad/600mg 4ad
Day 5-300mg 1ad/900mg 4ad
Day 6-300mg 1ad/900mg 4ad
Day 7-300mg 1ad/900mg 4ad

Week 2:
400mg 1ad/1200mg 4ad

Week 3:
500mg 1ad/1500mg 4ad

Week4:
600mg 1ad/1800mg 4ad

PCT
Week 1:
600mg 6oxo divided morning and night

Week 2&3:
400mg

Week 4:
300mg

I was very hesitant on jacking up the 4ad the way I did. I wasn't sure if I should stick around 900mg or not. What do you guys think about that? Is it way to high? I know clomid and nolvadex would be better pct too, but I am still working on getting some. My wrestling trainer at the college I attend is trying to get some for me, but is that really needed? I know it is better to be safe than sorry, but it is just hard for me to find.

Also, what other things should I take? Milk thistle, Saw Palmetto, Flaxseed oil, R-ala? And can I still take protein powder and a multivitamin? Or will taking all these things be kind of an overkill.

Hey guys, thanks a lot for your help. I know this is a lot, but I just really trust and value your guy's opinion. I don't know what I would do without you. Thanks again, peace.

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RE: critique my ph cycle - 3/31/2004 7:37:18 PM

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I see no need to go that high on 4-diol. Particularly since this is your first time. 600 mg should be plenty. If that goes well, jack it up to a gram next time.

I see no need to stagger up. Pick your dosage for the first 4 weeks and stay there. 400/600 would be a good first cycle, 600/1000 would be a good second.

Flax, fish oil, sesamin, multi are all good when on androgens. Load up on protein. At least 2 grams per pound of BW. And eat at least 20 calories per pound of BW.

Saw palmetto isn't a bad choice, but milk thistle isn't necessary. Can't hurt either.

R-ala is an anti-oxidant and a glucose disposal and nutrient partitioning agent. Take it with your carb meals.

Good luck.

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RE: critique my ph cycle - 4/1/2004 5:31:10 PM

takedownII

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thanks bro. if you or anyone else has anything to add please do. all help is greatly appreciated. thanks

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RE: critique my ph cycle - 4/1/2004 6:04:37 PM

takedownII

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So twin peaks (or anyone) what about any of the following with my cycle?

Hawthorn, zma, formestat (maybe during cycle and 6oxo pct?), Creatine, or a multi.

thanks dude

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