critique my lifting please

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Your range of motion is excellent, perfect. Top notch.











Impossible to tell from a photo.

V,
    You're the Clipart Photoshop GOD!

 

Ok,

without going into lengthy detail about why you shouldnt be doing bicep curls right now, let alone those...Ill critique the picture.

Your not working your biceps optimally with that grip and position. The forearm needs to be fully supinated in order for the bicep to be fully contracted. Its almost a complete waste of time, if your going to perform bicep curls, you want to at least do them optimally. This means using a straight bar (not ez curl) or if your doing dumbbells keeping your forearms supinated on the way up.

for the love of all that is holy, lose the gloves. Besides me wanting to ask if you have a purse to match those, your going to eventually handicap your grip and you wont be able to reliably grip anything heavy without gloves.

I dont know what your routine looks like now, but your program should be focusing on Big compound lifts such as the squat/deadlift/bench/OH press/cleans/rows/pull ups/dips etc... not little isolations like bicep curls.

Look into the program starting strength follow that or mirror its layout with exercises.

6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"

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add to that a sound nutrition program that includes enough calories over maintenance to gain weight (hopefully mostly muscle).  500 cal/day over weight maintenance intake is supposed to get you a pound weight gain a week.  It might help you to post your diet for critique as well.

It may be beneficial to post more pics (including back and legs, relaxed poses please), and your workout history with details on current program.  But barring that, what N$ said, is, well, right on the money!  ;)

lol what use are pics? I can post a pic of me with a barbell loaded with 450lbs on my back and say critique it!!!!! You can't critique my form from that, infact my form would be terrible, not that you'd know.

V,
    You're the Clipart Photoshop GOD!

 

_Virtuoso_


lol what use are pics? I can post a pic of me with a barbell loaded with 450lbs on my back and say critique it!!!!! You can't critique my form from that, infact my form would be terrible, not that you'd know.

V,
   You talkin' ta me?!  I meant post CMP pics, not training stills.  It might be helpful to see physique top to bottom, front and back, along with routine history, diets, supps.  N$ hit it on the head w/routine.  We just need to address nutrition as well.

I agree,

and to an extent you are right, having a video is 1,000 times better when critiquing form. However, as they say a picture is worth 1,000 words...well that picture certainly had some critiquing to it. And thats what I had to work with, so thats what I used.

_Virtuoso_


lol what use are pics? I can post a pic of me with a barbell loaded with 450lbs on my back and say critique it!!!!! You can't critique my form from that, infact my form would be terrible, not that you'd know.

6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"

^

but for all you know he was doing 2 sets of curls (albeit not with great grip) at the end of a back workout, and was halfway through a rep which is why he's not fully extended.

You can't tell.

V,
    You're the Clipart Photoshop GOD!

 

lol,

im not disputing that, if you noticed I critiqued everything available and that was noticeable. Grip/gloves and the exercise in question.

dont be dense, I am/was agreeing with you, I just felt like those things needed to be said from just looking at that picture.

6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"

Nm0ney34



for the love of all that is holy, lose the gloves. Besides me wanting to ask if you have a purse to match those, your going to eventually handicap your grip and you wont be able to reliably grip anything heavy without gloves.

 

 

See now thats another thing i didnt know,i just use mine so my skin stops peeling off a my palms but seems though i should just ignore that.

MarcelJ cant really critique without movement there bro or some more info of what it is we should critique.
Keep up the work though bro.

Just starting out but watch this space!

Nm0ney34


lol,

im not disputing that, if you noticed I critiqued everything available and that was noticeable. Grip/gloves and the exercise in question.

dont be dense, I am/was agreeing with you, I just felt like those things needed to be said from just looking at that picture.

N$,
    I'm going to buy some chalk for the grip, but don't really think my gym allows it.  I was wearing gloves for the same reason (calluses where fingers join palm).  I haven't worn them in several weeks and I seeme to be doing okay, but I don't know what will happen as weights go up.  Some people may not have the luxury of using chalk.  Do the calluses (sp?) toughen w/o gloves to the point where they stop peeling off over time, or do you have to use chalk w/o gloves?  And another thing:  I think (uninformed) chicks think guys in lifting gloves are hot.  Just sayin'!  ;)

Marcel J


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hahahahaha i needed a good laugh

Current: 19, 5'11", 190@7%

bench:305 squat:370(atg) deadlift:475
Goals: 4plate squat, 5plate dead

"obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated"

Calluses happen because your holding the bar in the palm instead of the fingers. Meaning your pinching that skin against the bar.

Im terribly guilty of this, and honestly I cant get away from gripping it like that. But then again I dont mind calluses at all. As far as me, I dont use chalk, gym doesnt have it. I use a palms in grip until the weight gets too heavy and then I alternate mixed grip every set.

I have never had any problems with holding the weight, and in fact the 450 I maxed on in aug, I could have easily held 500+ but its my form that would give out.

I dont think you need to be worried about the weight if your using a mixed grip and alternating you should be able to progress just fine.

As for the calluses toughening...mine still peel every once in awhile, but like I said I dont mind them. In fact im proud of mine.

I think the chicks talk to the guys in the gloves because they think they are feminine, what guy in their right mind would wear gloves unless they had a matching purse to go with it...I think they can sense it.

JMBS

Nm0ney34


lol,

im not disputing that, if you noticed I critiqued everything available and that was noticeable. Grip/gloves and the exercise in question.

dont be dense, I am/was agreeing with you, I just felt like those things needed to be said from just looking at that picture.

N$,
    I'm going to buy some chalk for the grip, but don't really think my gym allows it.  I was wearing gloves for the same reason (calluses where fingers join palm).  I haven't worn them in several weeks and I seeme to be doing okay, but I don't know what will happen as weights go up.  Some people may not have the luxury of using chalk.  Do the calluses (sp?) toughen w/o gloves to the point where they stop peeling off over time, or do you have to use chalk w/o gloves?  And another thing:  I think (uninformed) chicks think guys in lifting gloves are hot.  Just sayin'!  ;)

6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"

N$,
   In Rip's SS, didn't he advise against a mixed grip due to potential injury to the supinated bicep or something?  Think he actually condoned using straps if grip gave out on heavy sets.

I dont remember that, but Ill go back and try to find it later on.

I do know that he used a mixed grip himself while performing in lifting comps.

I suppose there is a chance to injure the bicep, it happens. But this can be avoided by alternating mixed grips. If using a mixed grip to pull heavy deads is wrong, then everyone including powerlifters, record setters are all wrong.

...there not :P

6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"

Most powerlifters do tell you use straps or hooks in place of the mixed grip, because it can tear your biceps. But when you see them lifting in competitions they're always using just mixed grip. I have to use hooks personally, due to a hand injury that has never recuperated.

ACE-CPT, NASM-CPT, AFPA-Nutrition Consultant 

Nm0ney34


I dont remember that, but Ill go back and try to find it later on.

I do know that he used a mixed grip himself while performing in lifting comps.

I suppose there is a chance to injure the bicep, it happens. But this can be avoided by alternating mixed grips. If using a mixed grip to pull heavy deads is wrong, then everyone including powerlifters, record setters are all wrong.

...there not :P

I used a mixed grip too until I read that in the book.  From p. 107 paragraph 3:  "For those not intending to deadlift at a meet, straps may be a logical choice for the heavy sets, since one supine hand and one prone hand produces asymmetrical stress on the shoulders and can cause or aggravate bicep tendon problems on the supine side in some people."  Now he does not address alternating the mixed grip which I was doing and which you mentioned.  He, if memory serves says to keep your dominant hand prone and supinate the other hand.
 
Anyway, perhaps I should go back to the mixed grip.  But I will develop grip strength faster if I use a normal prone grip on both hands, right?  When grips starts to give out, I'll do alternating mixed.  Sound good?  Thx!

ooooh no! my gloves are white and my purse is a dark beige!!!! they totally dont match!

first day with no buds, 11/17, need a new job. 1 down 13 to go.

mr. 209


ooooh no! my gloves are white and my purse is a dark beige!!!! they totally dont match!

209,
   White gloves after Labor Day?  You should be shot!  What is wrong with you?  

Ah, well its interesting reading that.

I wouldnt train that way simply because the body adapts, im not going to train heavy with straps. I would rather train my grip to benefit the deadlift and everything else. I believe you would be less prone to that injury if your used to using a mixed grip. 

I understand what hes saying a lot of people dont get serious about lifting (comps) or even get into high enough weight to really worry about injuring the bicep like that.

I just dont like the idea of training with straps for heavy lifts, I think it takes away from your grip too much. Also yes your grip will progress faster with a normal pronated grip, moving to mixed only when you can no longer use a double pronated.

My advice is always going to be lose the straps/gloves and train with BEAR hands and chalk. If someone wants to use straps or gloves, be my guest its not my grip thats getting handicapped.

rawr

JMBS

Nm0ney34


I dont remember that, but Ill go back and try to find it later on.

I do know that he used a mixed grip himself while performing in lifting comps.

I suppose there is a chance to injure the bicep, it happens. But this can be avoided by alternating mixed grips. If using a mixed grip to pull heavy deads is wrong, then everyone including powerlifters, record setters are all wrong.

...there not :P

I used a mixed grip too until I read that in the book.  From p. 107 paragraph 3:  "For those not intending to deadlift at a meet, straps may be a logical choice for the heavy sets, since one supine hand and one prone hand produces asymmetrical stress on the shoulders and can cause or aggravate bicep tendon problems on the supine side in some people."  Now he does not address alternating the mixed grip which I was doing and which you mentioned.  He, if memory serves says to keep your dominant hand prone and supinate the other hand.
 
Anyway, perhaps I should go back to the mixed grip.  But I will develop grip strength faster if I use a normal prone grip on both hands, right?  When grips starts to give out, I'll do alternating mixed.  Sound good?  Thx!

6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"

I don't know of any powerlifters that train with straps or hooks.  I just alternate between hands.

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