critique my 3 day full body routine!

ok i think ive got it down to a science on what i want to achieve mass wise and would like to know if anyone thinks otherwise and if i should change anything. my goal is mass and decided to do a 3 day full body routine rotating between workouts. for anything which you may see a bit of excess of is due to me wanting to pack on mass there the most to equal out my symetry but will drop the frequency as i gain the appropiate mass im going for in the specific spot. i also wanted to keep it as full body as possible working almost all aspects of the body including the bigger muscles which include more parts to them such as the legs.

workout a

squats
flat bench
incline bench
deadlift
step ups
chin ups
dips
back extensions
hammer curls
abs/obliques

workout b

squats
standing military press
power clean
pendulum rows
stiff legged deadlift
pull ups
dips
calf raises
hammer curls
abs/obliques

each workout usually lasts me 1 1/2- 2 hours. i workout every mon wed and fri. the first 5 excersies of each workout which are the heavy coumpounds i do 3 warm up sets then 1 work set after that with the rep ranging from 15-20 with failure. ive been somewhat on this routine now for almost 2 months but have just finished doing a few more changes here and there to find whats working best for me. so far so good and notice a bit of difference between now when i seriously started lifting which has been lil under 2 months and back in my highschool days when i had nooby gains throughout the span of about a year when i decided to give up on the hobby. hopeing this time im doing it right with my routine and any tips or help on it will help me tremendously, thx for the help!

routine looks pretty good.  how is your diet?  are you eating enough?  that will be a key factor in determining whether or not you pack on mass fairly quickly.

IMO.. a few of the exercises aren't needed.  for example...  if you're doing flatbench already, there's no need to do a set of incline. 
I would also remove the step-ups and the back extensions.

Here is what I would add in place of what was removed.  Regular deadlifts.  Those will hit the glutes, the legs, and the lower back/upper back quite a bit... and will do MUCH more than step-ups or back extensions will ever do.

plus.. which exercise releases more Human growth hormone?  back extensions??? or deadlifts??      deads of course.   so if you want to grow.. toss out all the time wasting exercises and do urself a favor.  

other than that.. props bro.   lots of compound lifts.  the order is pretty good too.. big to small muscle groups.

isolations are ok... it's really up to you.  I just gave you  my opinion on the matter.  You don't have to follow my advice though : )

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reason i do the flat to incline is because there the only excercises i do that really target the chest and with the flat i go below my chest for stimulation on lower and middle and with the incline get the upper chest pumpin thus targeting the entire chest. took your advice on the back extensions but just replaced em with another day of more calves as they seem to react better with more workouts. also i already have deadlifts in my workout if you didnt see em. also arent the step ups good for working the upper region of your legs which often get neglected even through squats?

I'd remove step ups, back extensions, and put bench and incline bench on apposite days ... I'd also seperate the dips from the chin ups, put them on opposite days... just my opinion, my workout is as follows and i'm cashed afterwards, and it takes me about 1 hr to do.

workout A

Squats
bench
oh press
dips
rows

Workout b

deads
incline
chinups
lat pull downs
Arnolds

1-1/2 to 2 hours seems  too long.  Most times, less is more.  Including the number of exercises. 

My favorite (and current) routine:

Workout A:
3x5 Squat
3x5 Bench Press
1x5 Deadlift
2x8 Weighted Dips

Workout B:
3x5 Squat
3x5 O/H Press
3x5 Bent-over BB Rows
2x8 Weighted Chin-ups 

Add 5# to each lift, each workout.  When you can no longer progress with 5# additions, add 2.5# each workout.  Make sure form is perfect, form is more important than the amount of weight. 

And don't forget to EAT!  If you think you are eating enough already, that probably means you need to eat more. 

This one takes 35-45 minutes.  Done on Mon-Wed-Fri, rote A-B-A-B-A-B-A-B-A-B.... and so on.

Robert,
just a question.  To me, that routine just seems very easy.  I mean 9 total sets for workout A and 11 total sets for workout B?  Am I reading it wrong?  I'm just afraid I wouldn't feel like I got a good burn after that.  That should take about 15-20 minutes to do, correct?

With the warm-up sets, it takes me 35-45 minutes w/2 minutes rest.  It is a GREAT workout, one that has been around for decades (pushed by Mark Rippeote), and will add mass if done to the letter.  The key to it is adding 5# to each lift per workout.  When you can no longer progress by adding 5#, then start adding 2.5# to each lift each workout. 

The only ones who think it is too simple and won't work are the ones that don't do it.  The ones that follow it as written by Rippetoe have awesome gains.

tremendous...I will give it a go, then...or at least a very close version of it.  Let me ask you; I'm supposed to add a total Of 5lbs to each lift (rep) every workout right?  Does that mean for bench 3x5…I add weight at the beginning and then do the same weight for each 3 sets?  Also, adding 2.5 lbs to a workout is impossible, no?  2.5 lbs is the lowest weight there is, right?

Also, how does this variation of that workout look?
Monday:
Squats leg 5,5,5,5,5
Incline Bench Press chest 5,5,5,5,5
OH Press shoulder 5,5,5,5,5
Dips chest 5,5,5,5,5
Weighted Pullups or Pulldowns back 5,5,5,5,5
Abs-ball: 3 sets of 20 reps

Wednesday:
Power Clean and Press shoulder 5,5,5,5,5
Deadlift leg 5
Incline Bench chest 5,5,5,5,5
Bent Over Rows back 5,5,5,5,5
Weighted Pullups or Pulldowns back 5,5,5,5,5
Abs-ball: 3 sets of 20 reps

Friday:
Squats leg 5,5,5,5,5
Incline Bench Press chest 5,5,5,5,5
Oh Press shoulder 5,5,5,5,5
Dips chest 5,5,5,5,5
Weighted Pullups or Pulldowns back 5,5,5,5,5
Abs-ball: 3 sets of 20 reps

With Rip's plan, you add weight each workout.  So, for example, you do flat bench in workout A only.  Starting out, you would bench Mon, then Fri, the Wed, then Mon, then Fri....and so on.   

You start you bench with, say, 130 on Monday, and lift that for that day's workout.  Then Friday, you add 5#.  Then Wednesday, you add 5# more.  Rinse and repeat.

You squat each workout.  Monday you squat 130# (or whatever you start with), Wednesday it is 135#, Friday 140#, Monday 145#, Wednesday 150#............

You don't want to start too heavy, or you will hit a wall real quick.  The AMOUNT of weight is not important unless you just want to brag.  Correct FORM is absolutely necessary.  Squatting 450# doesn't mean jack snot if you aren't going ATG each rep (or at least below parallel) with good form.

No, adding 2.5# is not impossible.  I use a total of four 2" I.D. flat washers.  Two of them weigh 1.75#, so throw 2 of those on each side.  Get creative if you have to:  A bunch of 1/2" washers strung up on a piece of wire hung on the bar, a couple pieces of thick particle board with a 2" hole cut in the middle that weighs 1.75# each.

What you posted look OK, but it is not a variation of Rip's.  That is a 5x5 program, totally different animal.

Great.  Thanks for dumbing that down for me.  If I turned "my routine" inot the same exercises I have listed, but for sets of 3x5's instead of 5 x 5's would that be a solid version of "Rip's routine?"

Rip only has two "versions'....the one I posted, and a slightly different one that he teaches in his gym, where he can taylor it to each persons needs.  Otherwise, it is someone else's routine, or one someone just put together.

What you posted looks solid, with the exception of the incline bench 3x a week.  I would maybe drop that to flat bench 2x a week.  And either drop abs all together, or if you really feel you need/want them, 1x a week.  They are going to get hit with most of the big compounds already.  And to get the highly visible 6-pack, well, that's mostly diet related.

Robert,
I really appreciate you taking the time to address my posts.  Thank you and I'll post my progress.  My current pics are under the "what say you," thread in critique my physique section