creatine????

im going 2 start to take creatine next week.....is it a good supplement...should i worry about any side effects?
 
Thankz,
Lo
 
Bench 315
power clean-245

Just drink plenty of water research creatine on bodbybuilding.com that should cover all the info for ya

The side effects arent to bad. You will retain some water and the gains u get you will loose some. Take it for post Workout on cycles i take it  4 weeks then off for 1 or 2 weeks. It will give u more endurance, better pumps, and better gains. The cycles are so youll avoid any side effects that may happen its better to be safe then srry. But the side effects arent as bad as people make them out to be. I suggest you take BSN NO-Xplode or Xyience NOX-CG3 i have taken both and the results i got were very nice. Also take a protein with the creatine since creatine is more so an additive. And be sure to drink tons of water throughout your day. And like the above post said bodybuilding.com is a great resource wesbite to learn all about supplements.

You don't have to cycle creatine and there are no negative side effects. You don't need a creatine suppliment packed with caffiene, I remember reading somewhere that caffiene has negative effects to your training. Dan mentioned it somewhere in the post your own articles thread.

Blake
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well i disagree i have had many clients take creatine and my friends that are bodubuilders even agree you should cycle creatine. I have taken creatine for a very long time and i believe cycles work the best. Even pro bodybuilders say to cycle read up on the facts man. And caffiene may hurt your workout but it cant have that bad of negative effects since i have taken it forever and dont see any negative effects on me.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/musclegain.htm
 
go to that page and scroll down it will say you should cycle creatine and everything i have said is by my own experience so you may have a different opinion but w/e im doing must work.

Clients? How old are you, judging by your responses I would guess you're were in your mid teens.
 
I know it's widely accepted that you should cycle creatine but why?
 
You act as if you personally have tried not cycling and cycling then compared lean muscle gains, strength gains, so on and so forth.
 
You also act like I'm saying what you're doing is totally wrong and won't yeild results, I didn't say anything of the sort. I simply don't believe it's neccisary to cycle creatine and you don't need these expensive brands. Creatine is Creatine and it doens't matter what name brand is on the label. All your getting with most of these other brands is a high price tag and caffiene and god knows what else. Most of which have LESS creatine content then the cheaper brands per serving. Giving you even less for your money. 

Blake
Age 19
Hieght ~5'10.5"
Weight ~196
Bench ~275
Squat ~390
Dead Lift ~375
MilitaryPress ~200
Hang Clean ~205
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well the ones i have suggested are just ones i have tested i never said that there the best or others are worse just these i know work since i have tested them. I am 20 i have been a personal trainer since i was 17. And yes i have tried both cycles and once witout cycles it may be my imagination but i saw greater gains with cycles. And i know you arent saying what im sayin is wrong we are both entitles to our opinions. And you are right alot of brands that are big name brands pack other things into there creatine that make it even less effective but those two are ones i have tested like i said and seem to work. I have also done many types of mono creatine which works rather good also

i dont think creatine needs to be cylces so u wont have bad side effects but i do think it should be cycled so your body doesnt get used to it. that just wat ive always read.

thats what im trying to say im just saying if you feel there are effects do it in cycles. I feel that creatine is 100% safe tho. All though there are studies of it doing some damage to your kidney's. like say you have an existing kidney problem it may agravate or increase the acuteness of these problems. the reason is is cause creatine increase the levels of Creatinine in your body. Your kidneys has to flush the excess Creatinine in your body and cuases strain on the kidney's. Also Creatine is manufactured from sarcosine and cyanamide. And during the production ofCreatine contaminants such as various ions, creatinine, dicyandiamide, and dihydrotriazines. So if you take creatine that hasnt been screened well for contaminants and take larges doses over a long period of time it may be of some concern. So always get creatine from a reputable company. Well thats about all the concerns of creatine. I still feel creatine is 100% safe i have taken it for a very long time and no side effects. And for the cycles i suggested it cause it seems you get better gains that way and the consumer may feel a bit more at ease doing this just in case.

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I started taken it  yesterday and today my body felt weak...ive ben lifting for 2 years....is this the creatine working.????
 
Lo
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How much are you taking in and when are you taking it? It may take a few days to really start to notice a diffrence.

Blake
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yea u wouldnt notice a real difference in 1 day

im doing the loading.....5 times a day for the first week later it will be twice a day...

Lo
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Squat-405

You don't need to do a loading phase. Just take the normal dosage.

Blake
Age 19
Hieght ~5'10.5"
Weight ~196
Bench ~275
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yea i read a study that showed that the ppl who did the loading phase got to a certain point faster but by the end of the test they were at the same point as the group who didnt do the loading phase

ORIGINAL: David1991

yea i read a study that showed that the ppl who did the loading phase got to a certain point faster but by the end of the test they were at the same point as the group who didnt do the loading phase

 
Exactly-No need to load

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ORIGINAL: twistedlink

Creatine stays in the body for a long time, loading phases arent needed, after 2-3 weeks of normal dosing youll have the same amount as loading phases.

I dont personally see much great things about creatine, i saw definite pump after workouts better than before, and weight went up, strength didnt actually go up per se, more stamina and energy.

Its not a magic supplement so many bodybuilders think that it is.

 
yea, honestly im taking it because i bought it before and just wanted to finish it up but i dont plan on buying more once im finished with it.

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thanks for all the help

Lo
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Squat-405

Dan posted an artical where they finally did a study on creatine. It's good stuff, even good for things like brain function. I love the stuff personally. Some don't respond as much to it as others. I have friends who it does nothing for.

Blake
Age 19
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Weight ~196
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what do u mean finally did a study? creatines had more studies done on it than any other bb supplement

Duke of the Emancipation Detoxification

They never did a real in depth scientific study like that one. Or so Dan said. I don't follow all of that.
 
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/NEW_Science_Shows_that_Creatine_Training_More_muscle/m_243358/tm.htm

Blake
Age 19
Hieght ~5'10.5"
Weight ~196
Bench ~275
Squat ~390
Dead Lift ~375
MilitaryPress ~200
Hang Clean ~205
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i'm also been wondering if i should take creatine and or L-glutamine. i'm done some online reasearch about creatine, and the companies that sell it say its a must have and things like, "after a one hour workout it can take the body up to 6 days to recover and make more creatine," or like bodybuilders are always getting sick and creatine prevents that.

then i ready other studies where it doesn't seem as important to building muscle, but just the preventing of breaking down muscle and imuniety.

then i looked at my protien supplment. EAS. on the list of ingredients there is L-glutamine and others. i <3 eas, it working pretty well for me. when i take it after a hard workout or 2 hour dance class i'm not as sore as i would of been, and i have seen muscle growth and my strenght increased. even so 25 bucks for a 6lbs bag does break the bank ever 4-6 weeks(costco if awesome, but i'm still poor).

i jsut want a supplment with the most bang for the buck.

ORIGINAL: weavers

i'm also been wondering if i should take creatine and or L-glutamine. i'm done some online reasearch about creatine, and the companies that sell it say its a must have and things like, "after a one hour workout it can take the body up to 6 days to recover and make more creatine," or like bodybuilders are always getting sick and creatine prevents that.

then i ready other studies where it doesn't seem as important to building muscle, but just the preventing of breaking down muscle and imuniety.

then i looked at my protien supplment. EAS. on the list of ingredients there is L-glutamine and others. i <3 eas, it working pretty well for me. when i take it after a hard workout or 2 hour dance class i'm not as sore as i would of been, and i have seen muscle growth and my strenght increased. even so 25 bucks for a 6lbs bag does break the bank ever 4-6 weeks(costco if awesome, but i'm still poor).

i jsut want a supplment with the most bang for the buck.

Glutamine is a useless supplement. Don't get it.

ORIGINAL: Trick2Stroke

They never did a real in depth scientific study like that one. Or so Dan said. I don't follow all of that.

http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/NEW_Science_Shows_that_Creatine_Training_More_muscle/m_243358/tm.htm

about that link, i'm a nursing major and i've been taking human anatomy and physiology, we learned that "satellite cell" (in muscle) are cells only some people are born with. and they just hang out and help with muscle repair, most people don't have these. the article was saying that it would increase them. (theire are other types of satellite cells in the body, but they have different functions.)

secondly we all have the same muscles and the same amount of muscles. the only differnce from me and some body builder is the size of the muslces, theirs is obviously bigger.

to me Creatine sounds like pseudo-science(false science, like eugenics)

Hey can anyone who's been on creatine before please post there gains?
 
Thx

ORIGINAL: weavers

ORIGINAL: Trick2Stroke

They never did a real in depth scientific study like that one. Or so Dan said. I don't follow all of that.

http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/NEW_Science_Shows_that_Creatine_Training_More_muscle/m_243358/tm.htm

about that link, i'm a nursing major and i've been taking human anatomy and physiology, we learned that "satellite cell" (in muscle) are cells only some people are born with. and they just hang out and help with muscle repair, most people don't have these. the article was saying that it would increase them. (theire are other types of satellite cells in the body, but they have different functions.)

secondly we all have the same muscles and the same amount of muscles. the only differnce from me and some body builder is the size of the muslces, theirs is obviously bigger.

to me Creatine sounds like pseudo-science(false science, like eugenics)

 
Only a limited amount of people respond to creatine also, maybe this is why.
 
All I can tell you is I initially can lift more and for a few more reps on creatine and whether creatine it's self helps with repair or not the added weight and reps to my lifts will build more muscle in and of it's self so either way I don't plan to stop using it.

Blake
Age 19
Hieght ~5'10.5"
Weight ~196
Bench ~275
Squat ~390
Dead Lift ~375
MilitaryPress ~200
Hang Clean ~205
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im kinda new to supplement (and this site by the way lol),
i was just wondering if you use creo for a couple of cycles, and then u stop and just go on protein will you find that your strength will actually decrease slightly???anyone ever had experience with this??
 
p.s, how do you get your prfile pic to show up on your comment, i already uploaded it and marked the dot but it aint showin??