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cardio better before or after weights? - 5/28/2006 8:30:03 AM
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artilleryman35
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Im trying to lose 3% more bodyfat I added 20 more minutes to my cardio before weights so im doing 50 minutes no been doing it for 2 weeks my weight training is low weight and high reps 12-15 but no results so far just a couple pounds weight loss my cardio is eliptical trainer at interval speeds high for 2 minutes where my heart rate goes up to 150 and light for 2 minutes where my heart goes down to 121 im 35 yrs old and 233 pds 5'11 eat high protain diet 2500 a day
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RE: cardio better before or after weights? - 5/28/2006 8:51:39 AM
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weston
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cardio sounds good.
you said you already lost a few pounds (isn't that good?)
i would not recomend high reps low weights your not gonna build much muslce that way try waits that are difficult 8-10 range (you should have little trouble doing your last rep)
rember it wont all come at once a pound or two (two if conditions are PERFECT) is normal jsut stick with it and you'll get there
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RE: cardio better before or after weights? - 5/28/2006 8:59:38 AM
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weston
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im gonna answer your quesiton now cause b4 i didn't even read the post title if i rember correctly they do diffrent things but im not sure which ones better for fat loss
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"Success is not the result of spontaneous combustion. You must set your self on fire."
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"This is my body and I can do whatever I want to it. I can push it, study it, tweak it, listen to it. Everybody wants to know what I'm on. What am I on? I'm on my bike, busting my ass 6 hours a day. What are you on?
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RE: cardio better before or after weights? - 5/28/2006 1:36:56 PM
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Cdub05
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FOR FAT LOSS do cardio every mornin fresh outa bed....i do 40 min runnin program on my treadmill 5 days a week at 620 am...i wake up, stretch and run....do it on an empty stomach but if ur stomach is churnin a lil bit then maybe have HALF a scoop of whey protein....by doing it first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, ur body resorts to burning your fat and foods ur body has stored.
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RE: cardio better before or after weights? - 6/1/2006 8:21:05 AM
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also when you run in the morning your should lift at night.
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RE: cardio better before or after weights? - 6/1/2006 9:52:40 AM
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gzinkl
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Get off the elliptical. It's probably the most ineffective of the cardio equipment. You can do great intervals on the treadmill (increase both spead and incline), and the bike. Even the stairmaster, or God help you if your gym has them, Jacob's ladder.
Intervals are good, but if you've been doing the intervals the same all the time, then their benefit wears off. Consider increasing intensity and shortening your rests.
What's the diet look like? Are you eating slightly fewer calories/day than your body needs? What kind of calories?
As far as lifting goes, it seems that everyone has a different idea about lifting and cutting. I think the most important thing is to keep lifting, and keep challenging the muscles. Don't let your body think that it doesn't need every milligram of muscle.
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RE: cardio better before or after weights? - 6/1/2006 9:54:16 AM
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gzinkl
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Oh, and to your specific question:
If you can't alternate days of cardio with lifting, then do cardio after lifting.
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RE: cardio better before or after weights? - 6/1/2006 12:25:32 PM
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The 50 minutes of cardio sounds great but how is the intensity? If you would say that you are an intermediate when in comes to training, your intesity on the cardio should be 60% to 80% THR (target heart rate). Once you get yourself to the higher end of this 70% to 80%, you must maintain this for at least, at least 20 to 40 minutes.
First you must find out your RHR (resting heart rate) - Do this first thing in the morning upon rising for 1 minute.
Here is the method of finding out your THR (target heart rate):
220 - 35 (age) - RHR x 60% + RHR =
220 - 25 (age) - RHR x 80% + RHR =
Note*The average RHR is 70bpm for men and 75bpm for women.
If you have any questions about this, I am sure a trainer at your gym could help you out.
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RE: cardio better before or after weights? - 6/5/2006 9:16:06 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: gzinkl
Oh, and to your specific question:
If you can't alternate days of cardio with lifting, then do cardio after lifting.
I had the same question as the Original poster.. what is better, before or after to lose fat..
Wouldnt it be better to do it before so you get your heart rate up and metabolism up before you lift, also wouldnt it stretch you out a little?
I get up at 5 in the morning and i have to get home by 6:15 to get to school on time. If i run for 30 mins should i do it right when i get to the gym or should i do it after all of my workouts?
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RE: cardio better before or after weights? - 6/5/2006 9:29:53 PM
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A very good explanation of Why Cardio is Better After Lifting
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RE: cardio better before or after weights? - 6/5/2006 10:01:15 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Marc David
A very good explanation of Why Cardio is Better After Lifting
ahh ok thanks marc
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RE: cardio better before or after weights? - 6/9/2006 10:56:20 AM
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I can't say this enough, everyone reacts differently, if the Elliptical is working, keep doing it. I lost almost 100lbs doing nothing but dieting, the Elliptical and lifting weights. If it isn't broke why fix it. The elliptical was very effective for me. Good luck man! Keep at it!
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RE: cardio better before or after weights? - 6/9/2006 11:54:26 AM
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gzinkl
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quote:
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I can't say this enough, everyone reacts differently, if the Elliptical is working, keep doing it. I lost almost 100lbs doing nothing but dieting, the Elliptical and lifting weights. If it isn't broke why fix it. The elliptical was very effective for me. Good luck man! Keep at it!
But that was the point in the original post--there were no more results. Something seems broken. No harm in trying a new type of cardio. 50 minutes is a long time to be on any of those devious torture devices.
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RE: cardio better before or after weights? - 7/6/2006 7:16:52 PM
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from what my training regimine says is you should do cardio 8 to 12 houres after or before so this doesnt efect your muscle growth this is from MAX-OT training
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