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bulking and i hate it someone help - 7/17/2007 10:38:12 PM
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ss396
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im currently bulking , techinically ive been in the gymabout 3 months and see and feel a slight change , i have however gained about ten pounds , i was told to just eat and eat , but im getting fat , its like i can see mucles under a jiggly layer of skin ,and in some ares , like my obliques up to my pecs right under my armpit , it looks like cellulite and thats drives me insane 
i wanna change my diet to bulk cleaner , where should i start , ive cut out pop ..althout i drink ice tea , i drink more water , i eat alotta jun k , im cutting out chips and fast foods , cept quiznos... but ill limit myself because i do eat out like 4 times a weeek. iwas told to cut out carbs , but thats almost all i eat i mean , i eat pastas chips , potatoes ect. i just dont understand what the right foods are , like i look at the nutri facts and im just like uhhh , cuz i dunno what they shoould be at. i have like a roll on myback , love handles and like cellulite man , doesnt make sense cuz i look so skinny and im almost 160 pounds now , and 511 , i mean , working out for 3 months , how much of that is muscle then and i stick to my routine which ill post at the bottom.
so what do i do guys , also , i dont think ive been getting much stronger , i fluxate so much , ill lift the average max weight for an outtashape person my age and size , then the next week ill lift more , and the next week i wont even be able to lift as much as i did before , what the hell?
im just getting frustrated now , i want to get bigger not fatter!
maybe someone can clarify this
i was told to gain muscle mass be 3 ex per muscle 3 sets per ex , and lift heavy like , where u can only do 4-6 reps , then i heard its 8-10 reps from someone else so im confused...
every ex i do , i usualy get a weight i can get to 10 reps with to warm that muscle up for the ex.
and then move up weight
i changed my mind im not gunna post my routine cuz this is already too long but if u guys can clear this all up ill be forever grateful , thanks!!
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RE: bulking and i hate it someone help - 7/18/2007 7:33:37 AM
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Zebman
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It is your diet. You must eat clean! My general diet for a day is a protein shake and either a turkey sandwhich or a bowl of good cereal for breakfast, none of that Captain Crunch crap. A banana and a protein shake after workout. I'll have some wheat bread later, maybe a sandwhich if i'm not sick of them yet. Then for around dinner I have some kind of chicken or fish in a large portion. I work at chic-fil-a, so I have access to unbreaded, slightly seasoned chicken breast nearly every day. I cheat here, and have a small bit of ice cream too, as it is included with my break and I can't get my money back for it. Finally, i'm usually not hungry for the rest of the night, but if I am, I grab something small like a banana or a piece of bread.
Soda pop was hindering you if you were indeed drinking it during your last 3 months. Processed sugars and high fructose corn syrup are the enemies. So are processed meats, McDonalds nuggets for example.
As for lifting, I have read here that 4-6 reps is for strength, and 8-12 reps are for mass building. I may be inaccurate on this, but it is what I have gathered so far.
One last thing I would like to add; your routine could be stopping you as well, or you're doing the wrong thing for your goals. I found that out recently myself. I've been going as long as you, and since the very start I had been doing dumbell curls, one weight in each hand. I had reached 30lbs in each hand, and was going nowhere for a loooong time. So, I sat down and did some preacher curls. What a change! I could only do 20 lbs. period, letalone 20 for each arm!
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RE: bulking and i hate it someone help - 7/18/2007 11:06:00 AM
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Perrynaytor
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Bulking? Dirty bulking is noooo good.
Stuff your face with
Grilled Chicken Breast
Tuna
Salmon
Lean (93 - 96%) Hamburger
Turkey
Broccoli
Cottage Cheese
Whey
Egg Whites
WHOLE WHEAT bread (Watch for high fructose corn syrup)
Juicy Juice sparingly.
And you gotta know your macros, my friend. I mean, if you are eating fast food a lot, you're basically getting half your daily needs in a meal or so.
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RE: bulking and i hate it someone help - 7/18/2007 10:22:45 PM
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ss396
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thank you both so much for the replies , i knew it was my diet , its so hard to change , but from what ive heard from a friend thats been training for 3 years and went from my size to a cut 195 ,
that muscle will burn my fat so now that im changing my diet i wont have to do any "cutting exercises" yet because i am still bulking and so the fat in the areas that im disliking will disolve when i work my routine.
heres my routine just so u guys can take a ganders , ive been consistant on it for nearly 3 months , ive noticed a change but man i hate this trial and error , it would get done faster if i just knew it all eh!
MONDAY **CHEST- flat BB bench , pec deck machine , incline bench w/DB , seated chest press machine , and this week tried two diff machines where u add some weights , there basically like flat and incline bench but seem to work diff angles , ( i just really wanna see results so im tryiing my best to exhaust the muscle , w/out overtraining)
**TRI- behind the head extension with one heavy DB , push down with Vbar on the machine , overhead extensions with rope v . and just started close grip bench press cuz i heard it works the tris
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Tuesday LEGS - v squat machine , calf raises , leg curls , seated leg press
LEGS REALLY BUGS ME BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT EX I DO I FEEL LIKE IM HURTING MYESELF EVEN THO I ALWAYS MAKE SURE IM DOING THEM RIGHT
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WED -BACK - LOW ROW , SHOULDER SHRUGS , BACK SIT UPS , LAT PULL DOWN , ISO LATERAL ROW MACHINE . AND THE PEC DECK HAS A SETTING TO DO BACK.
BI- PREACHER CURLS ,CURLS WITH bb , INCLINE SEATED HAMMER CURLS , THEN ISOLATED SEATED CURLS BETWEEN MY LEGS
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THUR-OFF
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FRI SHOULDERS- SHOULDER PRESS WITH DB , LATERAL RAISES WITH DB , FRONTAL RAISES WITH DB , MILITARY PRESS MACHINE , AND UPRIGHT ROW WITH BB
ABS-- CRUNCHS ON EX BALL , CRUNCH MACHINE , LEG RAISES HOLDING MYSELF UPRIGHT ON DIPS BAR.
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I JUST GET SO FRUSTRATED , IVE SEEN NO RESULTS IN MY BACK AND FOR SOME REASON THATS WHERE I AM GAINING FAT , AND ITS LIKE IM DOING EVERY SINGLE EX WRONG FOR EVERY MUSCLE , FOR ABS IF I LAY ON A BENCH AND RAISE MY LEGS THEY POP , I TRY TO DO THE SIT UPS WHERE U PULL YOUR LEGS IN AS U GO UP AND I CANT EVEN DO IT . WHEN I DO EXS FOR MY BACK APPARENTLY IM ONLY USING MY BIS AND MY SHOULDERS ARE WEEK AND THEY POP , I DO PREACHER CURLS MY ELBOW ANS SHOULDERS POP , I JUST DONT GET IT AND I DONT WANT TO QUIT BUT IM SOOO ANGRY I ALMOST SNAP AND LEAVE THE GYM SOMETIMES , I NEED SOME RESULTS TO KEEP ME MOTIVATED NOT JUST RANDOM PAINS WHAT DO I DO , I STUDY HOW TO DO THESE THINGS PROPERLY , EVERYONE MAKES PROGRESS EXCEPT ME
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RE: bulking and i hate it someone help - 7/20/2007 12:34:57 PM
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Zebman
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It seems like you're doing too much for nearly every group. For example, I have found that seated barbell curls for my biceps work great. So while in the gym, I do 4 sets of 10 reps @20lbs. I don't do anything else that works them. You don't need to do different exercises, just stick to something that works the best for you.
Otherwise, you should be progressing. You may be focusing too much on it and are indeed making normal progess, or you could be hindering yourself on bad form, which sounds likely judging by your last paragraph. I'm assuming you're going to a gym? Ask a person there to help you with your form. It should not be thought of as embarassing; you want to progress!
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RE: bulking and i hate it someone help - 7/27/2007 8:00:12 PM
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albowrx
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Do they teach grammar in your school?
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RE: bulking and i hate it someone help - 9/3/2007 1:10:24 PM
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rogerking
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hey man, heres what i would do. first of all, i would look for the most ripped up personal trainer at your gym that actually has good muscle mass. chances are if he looks like that then he can help you out in person. its too hard to learn this stuff spot on unless you learn from someone else and in person. just invest a little money like a couple hundred buck to get some serious training sessions. explain that you want to do like 4 sessions and in these sessions you really want to have a basic solid workout plan that will help you tackle your weak points to bring up whatever bodyparts on you are really lagging. after the 4 sessions maybe you can pick it upo your self and start thinking outside the box a little but if not maybe go see him again once every 3 weeks for a quick switch up option list for your routines. he'll also be able to keep track of you measurements and bodyfat to make sure your gaining good wt not fat.
next is your food man. yeah you want alot of protein to help build up but you need alot of quality carbs too. protein is like the materials at a construction site, and carbs are like laborers. without enough carbs your just gonna have a bunch of materials and the building wont get built!! so hire some workers man eat some oatmeal!! ha ha.
heres the foods i recommend:
carbs :oats, brown rice,sweet potatoes, brocoli, asparagus, apples, pears, peaches, ezekial sprouted whole grain bread, whole beans
pros: fish, chicken breast, top sirloin, xlean ground beef(93-95%), whey pro powder, casein powder, lo or fat free cott cheese
fats: nuts, avacado, fish oil, flaxseed oil(id say to use fats vary sparingly though on a bulk, just enough to get your efas in and thats it)
i think that covers it. write down what your comfortable eating everyday for a week and get back on a scale and see what happens, if nothnig then look over your food list from the past week and figure out where you can squeeze in a little more calories. try to get maximum cals in at breakfast and post workout. from there maybe just an extra 1/2 a cup of rice here, and an extra 3 oz of sweet potatoe there should help bump you up an extra 2 or 300 cals a day that could make up an extra 2100 cals a week which might actually be all you were missing to send your body over the edge to recruiting more beef. hope this helped.
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RE: bulking and i hate it someone help - 9/30/2007 8:22:57 AM
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kingyoto
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My mom loves chic-fil-a
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