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best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/18/2006 6:39:18 PM   
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basic cuts
melting point
lean extreme

im looking at basic cuts just because its the cheapest but let me know what everyone thinks?
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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/19/2006 9:28:31 AM   
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In terms of pure fat burner, then it is Melting Point.  Basic Cuts is a solid stimulant and good fat burner in it's own right, but not to the level of fat burning as Melting Point.  Then again, MP is not a stimulant, so each have their own unique advantages.


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basic cuts
melting point
lean extreme

im looking at basic cuts just because its the cheapest but let me know what everyone thinks?


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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/19/2006 11:38:44 AM   
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Pills do not help you burn fat, it's all in your diet and exercise.

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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/19/2006 1:05:55 PM   
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with basic cuts
willl i also lose weight cause i don't want that?

i just wanna lose some fat so  i get by body fat down to 8% right now its at around 11.

but i wanna make sure i keep all my muscle and strength


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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/19/2006 1:10:12 PM   
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Ephedra helps

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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/19/2006 1:27:28 PM   
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Ephedra helps
It also comes with potentially dangerous risks.

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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/19/2006 1:29:18 PM   
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Pills do not help you burn fat, it's all in your diet and exercise.
Primarily, yes, but in the case of TTA(tetradecylthioacetic acid), I disagree a bit.

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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/19/2006 1:31:39 PM   
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with basic cuts
willl i also lose weight cause i don't want that?

i just wanna lose some fat so  i get by body fat down to 8% right now its at around 11.

but i wanna make sure i keep all my muscle and strength

Not anything real noticeable.  Basic Cuts is not near as potent as Melting Point in terms of fat loss.

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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/19/2006 3:43:22 PM   
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then if u take something like basic cuts what kind of results should i be looking for?

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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/19/2006 6:21:32 PM   
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since i finished my SD cycle a couple of weeks ago, i didn't want to start cutting for summer until a month or so after. something about your body needs to get used to the new muscle you just added and if you do cut right after a steroid type cycle, your more likely to lose more muscle then waiting a while and then cutting. since summer is quickly coming im looking for alittle help with my cut sorta speeding up the process. so i was thinking about taking something similar to ebbears stack but switching basic cuts with glucosoron (i dont think i spelled it right, actually i know i didn't but hopefully u all can figure out what im trying to say). so it would be melting point, lean extreme, and glucosoron. i have no problem with losing weight, i did cut 7 pounds in one day (it was mostly water weight but it shows i have the discipline, how many ppl u know could run on a treadmill for 2 hours with under armour cold gear and sweat shirts and sweat pants when they havn't eaten in 2 days). i dont mind alittle jitters or being hot.

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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/19/2006 6:28:44 PM   
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this is my offical stack starting tomorrow

animal pak and basic cuts with breakfast and my fish oil pill
go to school
xceed with basic cuts again at 2:30
lift and do cardio from 3 to around 4:15
xceed immediately after lifting
100% whey protein shake by cyto sport with dinner around 5
muscle milk shake around 9:30
bed by 10

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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/19/2006 7:30:41 PM   
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since i finished my SD cycle a couple of weeks ago, i didn't want to start cutting for summer until a month or so after. something about your body needs to get used to the new muscle you just added and if you do cut right after a steroid type cycle, your more likely to lose more muscle then waiting a while and then cutting. since summer is quickly coming im looking for alittle help with my cut sorta speeding up the process. so i was thinking about taking something similar to ebbears stack but switching basic cuts with glucosoron (i dont think i spelled it right, actually i know i didn't but hopefully u all can figure out what im trying to say). so it would be melting point, lean extreme, and glucosoron. i have no problem with losing weight, i did cut 7 pounds in one day (it was mostly water weight but it shows i have the discipline, how many ppl u know could run on a treadmill for 2 hours with under armour cold gear and sweat shirts and sweat pants when they havn't eaten in 2 days). i dont mind alittle jitters or being hot.

Yeah, your talking about Glucophase XR.  GXR is very interesting, because it improves glycemic control and increases cellular glucose uptake, which makes it excellent for insulin and blood sugar control.  GXR also stimulates the enzyme glucokinase, which has a low affinity for gluocse to begin with.  You also get the added health benefits of GXR being a potent anti-oxidant as well. 

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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/19/2006 7:31:49 PM   
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Solid stack man.  Keep us updated. Smile

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this is my offical stack starting tomorrow

animal pak and basic cuts with breakfast and my fish oil pill
go to school
xceed with basic cuts again at 2:30
lift and do cardio from 3 to around 4:15
xceed immediately after lifting
100% whey protein shake by cyto sport with dinner around 5
muscle milk shake around 9:30
bed by 10


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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/19/2006 11:17:50 PM   
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i may try xceed because even though i cycle no-x because towards the end of the jug it starts to lose some effectiveness, its losing its effectivness sooner and sooner. im also gonna drop the creatine to lose alittle water weight. im thinking about doing almost str8 up ds (on whey and animal pak and then ds stuff) but i have one question. as part of my SD pct im taking retain which i think is pretty similiar to lean extreme, so i may have to look into this as it may be bad to take this stuff for 2 months or however long i decide to go. if anyone knows for sure, it would be a help and save me some time. i may even cut back on smoking for a while because i havn't done cardio is like a month and a half and wont for another week or 2. when you smoke you lose that cardiovascular endurance quicker. its not hard to run if you smoke but if you stop running and smoke its hard to get back in the grove.

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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/20/2006 1:32:44 AM   
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Retain is a product more designed for the PCT environment as opposed to Lean Extreme, which can be taken in either fashion.  But either way, it would be redundant taking both Retain and LX at the same time.  You can take LX for up to 8 weeks with zero problems, whereas as stated, Retain is just designed for PCT purposes.



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i may try xceed because even though i cycle no-x because towards the end of the jug it starts to lose some effectiveness, its losing its effectivness sooner and sooner. im also gonna drop the creatine to lose alittle water weight. im thinking about doing almost str8 up ds (on whey and animal pak and then ds stuff) but i have one question. as part of my SD pct im taking retain which i think is pretty similiar to lean extreme, so i may have to look into this as it may be bad to take this stuff for 2 months or however long i decide to go. if anyone knows for sure, it would be a help and save me some time. i may even cut back on smoking for a while because i havn't done cardio is like a month and a half and wont for another week or 2. when you smoke you lose that cardiovascular endurance quicker. its not hard to run if you smoke but if you stop running and smoke its hard to get back in the grove.


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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/20/2006 10:09:02 AM   
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thanks for the info 40, i understand their slightly different but i know their both cortisol blockers and i have read logs where ppl used lx as part of pct.

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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/20/2006 1:22:12 PM   
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today was the first offical day of the stack.

animal pak took it in the morning with protein seemed alright. did notice ne thing right away

also took fish oil and my basic cuts
basic cuts worked after about an hour i was sitting in class felt the caffeine and my body heated up

after school when i lifted

xceed and basic cuts pre work out

xceed still didn't notice too much felt a little bit better in the gym but as 40 said it takes a week usaully to kick in
basic cuts i noticed it was working due to the fact i usually never sweat that much during my work out. it was great.

after i took xceed again and now im on to my whey protein shake and fish oil pill

and tonight i will be taking muscle mlk

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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/20/2006 1:46:04 PM   
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Good stuff man.  Yeah, BC definitely increases core body temp.

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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/20/2006 3:40:42 PM   
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40 on average how much body fat can someone lose from taking basic cuts and this will help me get my 8 pack back by the summer right or it should?

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RE: best fat burn by designer supplements - 4/20/2006 3:48:02 PM   
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Basic Cuts will not rip you up.  As stated, MP is the product you want for dramatic fat loss.  BC is primarily a pre-workout stim, but it will aid some in fat loss, but nothing to the effect of MP.

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