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Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:27 AM
"If there's nothing else that's relevant, I'll be leaving now" "Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground"
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Thursday, October 05, 2006 7:04 PM
Nice! I'm in injury re-hab. Pulled a hammie on my 3rd set of leg curls at 160 lbs. Thems the breaks when you lift heavy.. I'm down but not out!!
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Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:41 PM
ORIGINAL: Marc David Nice! I'm in injury re-hab. Pulled a hammie on my 3rd set of leg curls at 160 lbs. Thems the breaks when you lift heavy.. I'm down but not out!! Of course you're not out! You have lots of other body parts to work on!!!!! 160 lbs on a leg curl? Jeez, my bones crack at the thought...
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Friday, October 06, 2006 8:28 PM
I think the real problem was the machine wasn't adjusted correctly. I like a good stretch but the Cybex lying leg curl was probably positioned down too far. While the stretch was nice, it took all the tension off the hamstring and put it on a small muscle. My guess thinking back was the ROM was too much. More than necessary. And with heavy weight, you don't want to go beyond a normal ROM. Next time, don't have such a hyper-extened setup! (note to self)
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Friday, October 06, 2006 8:31 PM
I've actually been under the weather, which has been frustrating. I did some cardio yesterday (bike commuting) that was much more intense than usual (strong wind in my face, both to and from work), but I was scared to work out lest I get full-blown sick. I really wanted to do that back workout, too. Maybe Sunday . . . . . . . My partner today was like, "damn, you're muscles are getting hard"! He has nice rose-colored glasses, but I'll keep him anyway.
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Saturday, October 07, 2006 7:42 AM
ORIGINAL: Marc David I think the real problem was the machine wasn't adjusted correctly. I like a good stretch but the Cybex lying leg curl was probably positioned down too far. While the stretch was nice, it took all the tension off the hamstring and put it on a small muscle. My guess thinking back was the ROM was too much. More than necessary. And with heavy weight, you don't want to go beyond a normal ROM. Next time, don't have such a hyper-extened setup! (note to self) Isnt it interesting how the machines generally help you not hurt yourself... but one setting off, and pad positioning is too high or low you can really jack yourself up.... Sorry to hear you hurt yourself, and of all things the ham's... follow some of the best advise you have given the rest of us and dont go hurting yourself more... Good luck Marc!
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Saturday, October 07, 2006 7:45 AM
ORIGINAL: gzinkl I've actually been under the weather, which has been frustrating. I did some cardio yesterday (bike commuting) that was much more intense than usual (strong wind in my face, both to and from work), but I was scared to work out lest I get full-blown sick. I really wanted to do that back workout, too. Maybe Sunday . . . . . . . My partner today was like, "damn, you're muscles are getting hard"! He has nice rose-colored glasses, but I'll keep him anyway. I'm feeling ya man, over the past few weeks I started to make sure big differences in myself.. my legs are cutting up and the muscles in my legs are getting alot of seperation... I was laying in bed and flexed the leg for the wife and she got discusted... I was so proud... but now I gotta take some time off from the gym... and its taking every bit of restraint on my part to not go... I am debating waking the wifes butt up right now and go mutilate some back.. but I dunno.. lol
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Monday, October 09, 2006 1:27 PM
HELP! I'm sick. A cold. Nothing serious to keep me from work, but I'm afraid to workout. Any hints? When should I go back to the gym? I'm hoping tomorrow or Wednesday? What should I do with the program? Start over? I only did 3 days of the first week. Or pick up where I left off and complete the first week's workouts on Thursday and Friday, and start the 2nd week next week? ARGH! Stupid immune system. It should KNOW better not to go to sleep on the job right now!!!
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Monday, October 09, 2006 7:40 PM
Start over... OA is pretty intense. You move quickly. You lift heavy. While the common cold doesn't have to stop you from hitting the gym or being active, it will put a damper on OA. It requires too much recovery time and being able to lift your best. What you can do if you refuse to stop working out when sick (as some do) is do Jeff's 2 week program at the beginning of the workout log book. Nothing but 4 sets of 12 reps with some light supersetting of easy stuff. It will keep you ready to hit it hard but not enough to seriously put more of a damper on the immune system. While some guys/gals will say screw it, go for it! I think you could end up prolonging your cold or making it worse. Personally, I'd just do the 2 week thing or get over the cold and then HIT it hard when you get well. Or just workout light to stay primed and then go for it. When can you go back to the gym? Depends on how quickly you can shake the cold. Usually Days 1-3 are the worst. After that, it's recovery which can take 1 to 7 days. Depends on you man. If you feel up to lifting heavy, go for it. If you aren't quite there and feel like crap, then back off. Personally I've had a cold and just busted thru it. And then got the flu and had to take more time off. At this point if I'm sick or I feel the slighted twing in my hammie, I just end the workout and come back later. My experience has been that pushing it ultimately makes recovery take longer.
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Monday, October 09, 2006 7:47 PM
I know I sound like a sales rep for these guys but seriously take a look at airborn.... I have no spleen and basically a crappy immune system and lately I started getting sick, pounded that stuff for a few days and I fought it off... in the past it could have taken me weeks, plus ended up with a sinus infection.... Z trust me man, this stuff works, but 1 tube of it and give it a day or two.... but one thing is its a giant does of Vit C... and other herbs.... Like Marc said take your time off, just try really hard to keep your diet straight, think of it as a small "rebuilding" period.
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Monday, October 09, 2006 7:48 PM
Hmmm, that's a good idea I hadn't considered--doing Jeff's light primer workout in the interim. Makes a lot of sense. Keeps the nervous system primed, but as long as I keep it light and easy, I shouldn't prolong this farking cold. Ok, so maybe tomorrow I'll give it a go, and pay attention to how I feel. Thanks, Marc! BTW, nice new avatar. Looking pretty damn studly!
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Monday, October 09, 2006 8:04 PM
Why am I so slow! My partner swears by that stuff, too! I wonder why he didn't remind me about it . . . Hmmm, let me see if it was a plot to knock me off. . . <later> He claims innocence and forgetfulness. Yeah yeah yeah. I'll do that, Coop, thanks for the reminder!
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Monday, October 09, 2006 8:06 PM
I used airbone this entire week as my wife has been sick. I've taken it twice a day. Hope it works again.
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Wednesday, October 11, 2006 7:55 PM
How is the cold coming? You been able to keep your diet straight even with feeling like poo?
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Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:14 AM
it's the Nomad Cold! It can't decide where it wants to reside--my throat? my sinuses? my stomach? Today we're back in the sinuses. It's incredibly frustrating. Yes and no on the food plan. I'm eating my programmed menu for the most part, and getting in multiple meals a day. But I'm always hungry (is it feed a cold, starve a fever, I can never remember?). So I've had extra meals, mostly cereal (shredded grains) and milk. My legs ache, and I'm sleeping poorly (combination of d*&^^%$ virus and lack of exercise). ARGHHHHHHHHH! I imagine that I'm getting fatter and weaker by the moment! Thanks for letting me get the drama queen out of me.
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