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Workout Help... - 2/20/2006 7:24:39 PM   
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Hi guys...well here is my story and questions...
I am 24 years old, I am 6' tall, I use to weigh 209 lbs, after a divorce i decided to slim down and am currently weighing 167 lbs. I can not be happier with the weight loss, so I have been going to the gym for 1 month now , am doing , back, chest, triceps... i started benching 10lbs plates, now i am at 35lbs plates,and  I am very satisfied with the results, I also just started taking NOX CG3 to enhance my perfomance.
Ok so my dilemma is this, i am very happy with my phisyc but i hate that i still have a  bit of love handles , i cant get rid of them, i have no stomach its flat , its just the love handles so i need your help on how to achieve this.
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RE: Workout Help... - 2/21/2006 2:51:21 PM   
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You want to go into a cutting routine to trim off all the fat.

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RE: Workout Help... - 2/22/2006 1:53:18 PM   
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Whats your diet like ?

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RE: Workout Help... - 2/22/2006 7:24:01 PM   
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You want to go into a cutting routine to trim off all the fat.


How can  achieve that?

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RE: Workout Help... - 2/22/2006 7:25:45 PM   
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Whats your diet like ?


Not much of a breakfast sometimes not even breakfast, a real strong lunch, and for dinner usually a light dinner.

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RE: Workout Help... - 2/22/2006 8:03:06 PM   
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How do I "cut"

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RE: Workout Help... - 2/22/2006 8:30:39 PM   
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OK.  You have to convince your body that you are not starving it.  That is key.  Otherwise it will keep the extra fat and burn muscle to slow the metabolism down..

SO, you want to start training the whole body.

You want to increase your total meals to 4, 6 or even 8, this increases your metabolism and makes the body feel secure that you will always have the nutrition on hand so it can lose the fat...and build fat burning muscle.

Buuuuut, you also want to eat at your maintenance calories.  Then you will slowly start to add cadio to burn off the extra cals...so you should be gaining a tiny bit of muscle and losing fat.

Now I am going to drop in here just about all the info necessary to set this up and it is alot..but you can just guess if you want to take your chances on trying to lose the extra fat...guessing takes longer and is more frustrating.

I say, just Plan to succeed!  Here it is:

First...when was the last time you took a week off.  If it was over 3 months ago..take a week completely off now..trust me..this will be a huge step to help you lose the fat!!!

#1 diet - most important
You need to be eating enough calories so that your body is not in survival mode! 
500 calories under your needs per day will get you -1 pound a week...if you need more, some will likely be muscle...so you have to decide what weight you want to lose. 300 from diet and 200 from cardio to begin.

At least 4-6 meals a day!

Go to this post to figure your daily calories if you don't have a clue.
Calories needed per day for various goals <------ link for you to click
At the bottom of the post is a link to a spreadsheet/calculator that you can use...

Use the lowest figure in the maintenance range for you...after a week you can adjust.

Use fitday.com to plan meals to get what you need not just as a meal journal...it is free! Use fitday.com as a MEAL PLANNER..not just a journal.  To help you tweak your diet into different mixes! 


Basic meal:
A protein (3 oz Chicken/turkey/beef/soy...)
A vegetable (1/2 cup broccoli/green beans/peppers/ 2 cups salad...)
A carb source (1/2 cup Rice/quinoa/amaranth/oatmeal...sweet potato, potato...)
Sufficient good fat  (from the protein and/or Fish oils, omega 3 oils, flax oils, nuts..)

You are looking for:
Protein-15-30%,
carbohydrates-40-75%,
fat-10-30%
...of your total calories

The ideal range of protein for results is .6-.9 grams per pound of body weight.

If you are a light eater and meats sit like a brick in your tummy then go for the lower part of that range. 
If you enjoy meats and could eat them many times in the day, and they give you energy...go for the higher end.

Target the fat % on the scale proportionate with the protein. Then inversely proportion the carbs to the protein.

Foods should be fresh whole foods.  Carbs should be from veggies and non processed starches (rice, baked sweet potato, potato, quinoa, amaranth...) with some fruits.  Drop most processed sugars from your diet.

It depends on your preferences and your body chemistry.  Everyone IS different in the way they digest and use food.  You have to work with it to find what gives you the most energy and power, focus and good feeling.

Yes, I am speaking from experience as a trainer.  I assess clients for where to start their meals, then assign a diet and adjust based upon what we observe.  This is what you will do for yourself.

Experiment with different mixes...1 week strict per "experiment"!

I.E. (these are the extremes and represent points in a whole spectrum!  They give you ideas of parts of the spectrum to explore)

The moderate protein type=
Protein-20%,
carbohydrates-65%,
fat-15%

High Protein type=
Protein-30%,
carbohydrates-40%,
fat-30%

High Carb type=
Protein-15%,
carbohydrates-75%,
fat-10%

#2 Training
train your whole body
Chest
Back
Biceps
Triceps
Shoulders
Legs 
Calves 
Abdominals

Always warm up 10 minutes light cardio and also light higher rep sets for major bodyparts you will be working.

Optimal set / rep ranges and days between:
For muscular Endurance the rep range is 12-25 slow pace/30-90 second rests/ 1-3 sets / 1-2 days between
For muscle size the rep range is 9-12 slow- moderate pace/30-60 second rests / 3 -4 sets per / 4-7 days between
For Strength (vs. power) the rep range is 6-8 slow pace/2-3 minute rests/ 3-4 sets per / 4-7 days between
For power the rep range is 1-5 fast/explosive pace /3-5 minute rests/ 4-8 sets per / 2-3 days between
That has been heavily tested and it works...courtesy of the National Academy of Sports Medicine.

It is essential to vary intensity in your training every cycle to keep the gains going.

There are a lot of intensity principles that you can toy with to spice up your results a bit. Some discussion threads on varying intensity...
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/m_87226/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#87256
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/m_93729/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#94183


#3 Cardio
The body adapts very quickly to cardio, even faster than it does to lifting.  For this reason it is important to vary an aspect of your Cardio about every 2-3 weeks, or as needed to maintain the results you are looking for.

If you do the same things every day, you get less and less caloric expenditure from them.  Additionally, as you lose weight, the number of calories expended from an activity declines!

The solution?  Vary your training to keep your body from getting accustomed to it. 

The things to vary every 2-3 weeks or so - in this order of "importance":

The the intensity of your training...slower/low intensity, moderate speed and intensity, high speed and intensity, intervals
The type of exercise you do...bike, rowing, elliptical trainer, treadmill, walking, etc
The length of time you train...from 20 minutes, to 30 minutes, to 40 minutes, to 50 to an hour.
The frequency with which you train...3 days a week, to 4 days a week, to 5 days a week, to 2x day 3 days a week

Some notes about this...change your frequency only as a last resort!!! 

The more frequently you do cardio, the quicker the body adapts and the LESS you get from it!!!!!

Be sure to take 1 full week at least every 2-3 months doing NOTHING!!!  In addition to other benefits, this de-conditions the body so that when you come back your body is more responsive again.  When you come back, start your training at 30 minutes 4x week and moderate intensity with a new type of cardio.

Then increase the intensity (2-3 weeks), then try interval training (2-3 weeks), then switch the type of cardio and start the new type at moderate (2-3 weeks), then high (2-3 weeks), then intervals (2-3 weeks), then switch and repeat.  Then add 10 minutes and go 50 at moderate (2-3 weeks), then high (2-3 weeks), then intervals (2-3 weeks).

After 3 months...REST and come back and repeat the pattern.

IF after 1-2 weeks you are not seeing any loss of body fat weight, you may need more time.  If you still see nothing, you may need another day.

#4 track your progress!
On the topic of Body fat measurement...THIS is how you will insure you are on track with whatever you want to accomplish!!!  The methods YOU can use to test your body fat yourself are unreliable on a one-time basis.  They are better used to track changes over time on an ongoing basis. 

Test every 1-3 weeks at the same time of day...and use the same scale to take your weight. 
Here is a calculator that allows you to use skinfold calipers (3 or 7 point test) or tape measure
http://www.linear-software.com/online.html

Here is the best price I have found to date for good cheap accurate calipers:
skinfold Calipers <--- link to place on amazon where it is cheapest

Once your diet and training are in place, measure your body composition and go a week following your plan.  Take circumference measurements of your muscles.

At the end of the week (and each week) check your body composition again - always at the same time of day with the same method and tools. 


--If at first you are just gaining fat, then revamp your training it is obviously not sufficient to create muscle gains, also look at adjusting your caloric intake down 250.
--If you are gaining fat and muscle, stay where you are! or if it is too much fat, you can drop calories 250 or add a bit of cardio.
--If you are just gaining muscle go another week as is.
--If you gain muscle and lose fat but gain no weight (or lose weight), stay where you are
--If you are gaining muscle and losing fat...while gaining weight stay where you are, you are at an optimal balance, muscle will burn more fat.
--If you are just losing fat stay where you are, then revamp your training it is obviously not sufficient to create muscle gains! 
--If at first you are just losing muscle, adjust your caloric intake up 500 calories.
--If you are losing fat and muscle, adjust your caloric intake up 500 calories.
--If you are neither gaining nor losing muscle or fat...you are at maintenance.  revamp your training it is obviously not sufficient to create muscle gains,  maybe drop 250 calories.

#5 the basics
Keep the training under an hour
Do not over train
Don't miss a meal. 
Don't go low carb on us. 
12-15 cups water minimum a day!!!
Don't let your calories get behind your muscle gains.
Multivitamin to support growth!
8 hours sleep a night
Avoid artificial additives (flavorings, coloring, preservatives) in foods
Cut out processed foods
get pre and post work out nutrition:

Here is a general rule for replenishing glycogen and sparing muscle pre-post workout:
0.2 g/lb high glycemic index carbs (juices/fruit, etc)
0.1 g/lb protein from whey (or Just 5 grams of BCAA or 15 grams of EAAs)

Sip 1 serving of the above before/during and 1 after training

Diet will be your biggest challenge.  You have to get the caloric level sufficient so that you are losing fat but gaining muscle.  You should expect to lose .5 to 2 pounds a week FAT and maybe gain .5-1 pound a week muscle.

Any questions…after you do your homework…post your caloric needs, diet, and training and we can comment to get you in the groove!

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RE: Workout Help... - 2/22/2006 8:52:01 PM   
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should i post a pic of me so u guys have an idea of what i look like?

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RE: Workout Help... - 2/22/2006 9:25:29 PM   
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That would be cool!
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RE: Workout Help... - 2/23/2006 4:21:30 AM   
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RE: Workout Help... - 2/23/2006 8:35:02 AM   
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Awesome...you have a great foundation...work on a bit more muscle and that will help with the tiny bit-o-fat!

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RE: Workout Help... - 2/23/2006 5:52:30 PM   
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increase cardio for a spell, then start a 5x5 program so you can mass out more and show more muscles pumped out.
But for immediate losses diet nad cardio is your key.  You can also circuit train with weights in addition. Just for a few weeks.

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