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Re:Williemon's path - Friday, August 07, 2009 4:33 PM ( #31 )
Havent posted  yet this week. training is going well. Im eating 2300 cal. Trying to keep carbs up, but mots times I hit about 43% for carb, 28% protein and same or around for fat. After full week of 2300 cal, no weight gain, no measurement changes. I do however feel a bit harder and the muscles just look better. I cant say how, but they just look better.

I just finished the cycle of 15s. All lifts were by the calculated paper, except for lateral raise for shoulders. I bumped weight up to 10 lbs for 2 sets of 15 as my max for day 5. Day 6 was dumbell press.

Had great atg squats @ 135 for 1 set of 15. That set was so intense, I only needed that one.

Problem on SLDL. I was too tight when I started my SLDL and ended up tweaking my left hamstring. Not bad though. Dodged a bullet there. Its a little  sore and tight today, but it looks like a stage 1 strain. It has not been any bother today, just that slight stifness. I will take it easy on it.

Going to bump to 2500 cal this saturday. It amazes me that a month ago I was holding 135 with 1800 cal. Now I have been up to 2300 cal all this week and still 135 and all measurements are the same. So, 2500 here we come! Also start the 10s on HST sunday. Will hold off doing SLDL for sure though.
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Re:Williemon's path - Friday, August 07, 2009 4:54 PM ( #32 )
W,
   Nice arms and killer quads!  I've just browsed your journal for the first time I think.  We share a similar philosophy!  :)  You've seen success in muscle gain with the HST?
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Re:Williemon's path - Monday, August 10, 2009 6:06 PM ( #33 )
Started the 3rd week of hst. 1st day of 10 reps. Went slow this evening. I was having a hard time running through the circuit without involving hamstrings. Really though, it only affected my deadlift and bent over rows but it was enough to throw my brain into confusion. I skipped all deadlift and ham exercises. I still did squats without issue. Instead of bent over BB rows, I did cable rows. I think I will stick with that for my set of 10s.  I made a change in my routine as far as the weights go. Im keeping my 10 rep maxs like they are, but changing the increment from 10lbs to 5 lbs on the heavy compounds. Then I chose 2 lbs for the lighter smaller muscles. That way I get to my 15 rep max weight faster that if I had larger increments.

2300 cal did not change weight or measures. Going for 2500 now. Sat and sun was bad as far as keeping track. Had ice cream as well. Not much water on sun. Did not eat enough good food on saturday but had icecream. Also waterskied a lot on saturday.

Will get back on track monday.
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Re:Williemon's path - Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:47 PM ( #34 )
2nd day of 10s on the HST. Still a little slow since im not doing and hamstring work. I really hate missing deads (not really) but I know they are needed. All went without a hitch. Humid as all get out here in the south east U.S.  in my shed. I work out from around 8:00pm till 9:00 or 9:30 pm.

Did 2500 cal today, 28% fats, 28% protein, 44% carbs
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Re:Williemon's path - Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:13 PM ( #35 )
Have finished the 3rd work out on the 10s cycle as well as the 4th. Nothing really to report. All went well. Im sticking to the weights I have decided upon. I noticed during this 4th day of 10 reps that Im hitting the limits of what I can do for 10 reps on several lifts. So far thats the way I wanted it. I will try to continue the lifts without any rest pause, but I may not be able to do so.  Added some SLDL using 2 20lb DB to the top of feet for 15. Not to bad. Deadlifts are not my strong point anyway. I had started with 60 for 15 and had worked up to 100 for 15 before the tweak.

Diet on friday, sat and sun was off. Used pizza and oreo cookies to get some calories in on fri. Did not get all my meals in on sat and added steak and some sweets. Sun also did not get all my meals in. Did not track cal over the weekend.

Measures on sat were the same as last sat, and the sat before. Weight had went up last weekend by about 2.5 lbs as measured on mon. Sat had been 135 as it was the previous sat, but my mon, I had added 2.5lbs, but was back down to 136 by wed. Still at 136 on sat but all measures same. Looking a little more smooth as compared to a few weeks back. Muscles look fuller although no change in measures. I might bump up to 2700 cal on mon through sat, but I may stay at 2500 or 2600, not sure yet.

Attached is the revised 10rep workout. Origional on top, revised one on bottom.
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Re:Williemon's path - Monday, August 17, 2009 4:51 AM ( #36 )
W,
   Lookin' good, my HST buddy!  Glad to hear you're recovering from the tweak.  Mmmmm, pizza and oreos, steak and sweets!  The four food groups!  ;)
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Re:Williemon's path - Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:11 PM ( #37 )
Had good workout sun night. Started 2nd week of 10 reps. All went as planed. Lifts are getting tough but still no need to pause. Did shrugs with an alternating grip. Much better to hold onto the bar with, but I try to bicep flex way too much as well.

SETBACK!! Got a bad sinus infection and cannot lift. Will end up missing this entire week. Diet is bad too. When I feel like this I eat whatever. My meals tues were mostly peanut butter and cinnimin  grahams, granola bars, reeses cups just a little water. I did eat some salmon and rice too.  Today just a little better. Maybe get back on track with diet and water tomorrow, rest untill thur, do some lighter 10s and then on sun  pick back up on the beginning of 2nd week of 10s. If thur is a no go, then may have to hit it as scheduled on sun.
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Re:Williemon's path - Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:07 AM ( #38 )
Mmmmm, Reeses cups!
Sorry to hear you're out of commission.  Hope you're back on the horse soon!  :)
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Re:Williemon's path - Friday, August 21, 2009 7:24 PM ( #39 )
Did not lift thur. I probably could have, but I just wanted to make sure I got in enough rest that I did not end up achy all over. I will most likely hold off untill sunday and just pick up at the 1st day of the 2nd week of 10s. Diet not on track yet. I think I have gained about 3 to 4 lbs during the time I have not been tracking my diet or trying to eat a lot. Go figure. And of course, the pants are just the slightest bit tighter. I think I gained 1/2 inch in my waist and NOTHING EVERYWHERE ELSE!!! Aint that just the cats meow???

Oh well, I will start to refocus on 2200 to 2500 calories clean, drink my water and maybe add some HIIT for the next couple of weeks just to see what happens.
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Re:Williemon's path - Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:54 AM ( #40 )
AAGGGHHHHH!!!!  measured this morning. 139lbs. waist up 1/2 inch. Hips up 1/2 inch. All other measures the same. So Ive gained 4 lbs since I started bulking, and all of it on my waist and hips.

This cant be the way its supposed to go. What little abs I had are quickly going away. Yea, I got off track and junk fooded a little. I will get back on track and drop about 100 cal I think, or stay at 2500 cal and add 2 days HIIT and see how I progress.
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Re:Williemon's path - Monday, August 24, 2009 7:48 PM ( #41 )
Got back into the 3rd week 1st day of HST. Stayed with the predetermined weights. All went well. Shortchanged the squats though. This was a 140lb for 10 rep squat workout. Should have done 2 sets ATG but I decided that due to the layoff, one strict set of 10 ATG would do the trick. All other lifts were 2 sets and by the book. Did some SLDL with light weight. I did not touch the bar to the top of my foot though. I stopped about mid shin. I still want to streach morevwithout weight first.

Food was ok. Mostly clean but with a handfull of junk. Monday will be clean for sure.

Thinking of settleing in to 2300 cal and dropping some carbs in favor of some good fats. Maybe a 40 30 30 P C F ratio.  The higher carb was making me feel bloated and I was picking up fat in waist.
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Re:Williemon's path - Sunday, August 30, 2009 11:25 AM ( #42 )
Workouts 2 and 3 of the 2nd week of HST 10s went well. Stuck to the weights as required. No rest pause except for pull ups (killer on my forearms) and once during last set of squats. Did 2 sets of all. I even included sets of rack deadlifts with the prescribed weight.

I using cable rows instead of bent over rows though, but still hitting my lats hard. Going to start first set of 5s tonight.
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Re:Williemon's path - Sunday, August 30, 2009 12:40 PM ( #43 )
W,
   Nice job on the HST!   Noticing any gains?  Good workin' out!  :)
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Re:Williemon's path - Thursday, September 10, 2009 7:07 PM ( #44 )
I finished my 5th workout on the 5 rep cycle last night. Things are getting tougher. Still sticking to my set weights with no rest pause except in the pullup. I hit 3 on the 2nd set and then I place a foot on a block real close by to help me up then do a negative for the last 2 reps. 3rd set I have to do 3 neg.

Did some SLDL last night  for 2 sets. Nothing too heavy though. Then did regular deadlift with 180 by 4 reps. Could have done 5 but form started to slack on the 4th.

Left pec and shoulder blade tight. Seems the pec will tighten when I do pullups. Only did 2 work sets on flat bench.

Been hanging with 2300 cal for past week. Trying to cut the addition of too much bf. Will bump to 2400 next week of good clean foods. Keep macros of 30% fats, 35 protein and 35 carb. 40% and up  carb really keeps me bloated. Dont like.

Size Gains are slow, but comming on I think. Gotta get the diet dialed in better. Strength gains are coming on too. No PRs yet. Those I set at 25 still stand.
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Re:Williemon's path - Saturday, September 12, 2009 5:43 PM ( #45 )
Finished my 6th workout of my HST 5 rep cycle. I think I nailed my 5 rep max pretty good. Felt strong in the squat so I decided to go with 180 for 5 instead of 170. 1st set was ok. Form was just a hing loose. 100% intensity. 2nd set 3rd rep did a rest pause. i felt form was too loose on that set so I dropped back to 170 for the 3rd set of 5. Better to keep my form than go loose on heavier weight. Added 10 extra lbs to cable rows instead of just 5. Did well. Pull ups I kept at the 5th workout weight since I needed to have a hint of help to get to the top and a neg on the way down. 1st set got the 5. 2nd and 3rd set had to have the help from rep 3 to 5.

Did some SLDL. Not too much weight. Set of 10, then set of 8.

Was going for flat bench weight of 170. During warm up, left delt (rotator cuff area) was real tight. decided to cut that lift. No since in causing a tear since I felt like I was being given a warning. Also cut OH press as well. Just did light warm up for them.

Working on getting 2400 cal. clean.
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Re:Williemon's path - Monday, September 21, 2009 7:42 PM ( #46 )
Still here. Last week only did 2 workouts. They are of the idea of keeping weight the same as max 5 rep and just getting better a it. I will do 2 to 3 weeks of this, and take a week off that will include a hiking trip. Lifts are still tough but getting just a hint easier. Left shoulder barking so Im going easy on bench press and overhead press. Adding some regular deadlifts. 
During last 2 sets of squats, I could really feel my left butt muscle working hard at the bottom.

This week, missed my sunday (1st of the week) workout. I did get a workout though. Had a storm and a tree down. Cut wood and hauled big chunks. Low back, hams, quads, lats, forearms all a bit sore today. Not too much though. Ate too much ice cream though. Total calories are all over the place last 3 days.


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Re:Williemon's path - Saturday, September 26, 2009 6:30 PM ( #47 )
Back again. I got 2 workouts in this week. Used same max weight for 5s that I came up with for hst. This program will be coming to a close soon. May even be this week since I am beat. Family, life, trees, are all taking a toll. May have too much stress. I did not measure today (sat) but a thur measure showed the same as my last sat measure. Weight 140. Still indicates too much fat is going to the tube around my waist and really not too much in muscle gain. Weight still inching up. I see progress though in my back and lats. Quads and hams are growing. Im even working quality deads back in again getting 3 sets of 5 at 160lbs.

Its been brought to my attention that my breakfast is not what it should be. Every morning I eat :
granola or kashi cereal
cheereos
milk
wheat toast
natty PB
Might add some whey

Eggs are out due to my having too much LDL cholestorol. What would be a better breakfast for me? It was said that the cereals and wheat bread were like sugar. The the fat from the PB gets stored. Should I kill the idea of the PB? I do love PB though. What better sources for my carbs are there for breakfast?


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Re:Williemon's path - Sunday, September 27, 2009 10:06 PM ( #48 )
Mine has been:
1 - Organic puffed organic rice (or millet or wheat etc ...that is all it is made of) or you can use something like Erewan organic crispy rice...again its just rice, no sugar or processing.
2 - Organic Milk with added whey
3 - Organic Walnuts/Almonds/Hemp seeds..take your pick go for the Omega 3s!
4 - Organic sliced apple/strawberry/banana/peach/nectarine/raspberry/blueberry/blackberry, etc  you pick

I might also saute 1/4 lb chicken with potato (both pre cooked), garlic, onion, red peppers, thyme, other spices, etc for a nice warm dish that meets all my diet needs...especially if I am cutting!  This is fast and takes care of business!

I always take my omega 3s, mullti, Glucosamine and Chondroitine, etc.

I don't consider the training program you are on to be very supportive of your goal.  The Max weight, 5 rep training can cause some high cortisol and that = chemical stress.

You might consider supplementing with a B-complex (50 mg) and Vitamin-c 100, 250 or 500mg every meal but breakfast...to support nervous system health and etc!

Also, I use L-Theanine post workout but one can also use Phosphatidylserine or etc to held draw down body/chemical stress.

Plan, prepare ahead and eat your meals and watch how you feel ...helps to avoid ice cream.

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Re:Williemon's path - Monday, September 28, 2009 6:35 PM ( #49 )
Thanks for the ideas Dan. I was doing the HST plan. I did not want to go down to 2 reps or negs so I stayed at 5 reps. Im feeling pretty taxed now so I think Im going for a SD break. Im looking at having at least 2 weeks off, maybe 3.

When I get back on, what would be a good program to get into? I was thinking about the Bill Starr 5x5 but that may not be the right one for me. Any ideas?

Tried some quinia today. Good stuff. Im starting to mix up lunch some now. Going to alternate quinia, potatoes, rice for now as a starchy carb. Going to mix brocilli, green beans, squash, red bell pepper for fiborus carbs. Yea, I know, I misspell a lot, but oh well. Going to try some of what Dan suggested for breakfast. Im not too concerned at the moment if its organic or not, just need to see if what I can find thats affordable is in fact healthy and meets the needs.

What about grape nuts cereal? That was suggested to me. Im also going to try some Musli.

So, suggestions for the next workout program?
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Re:Williemon's path - Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:30 AM ( #50 )
What are your goals for the next phase?

Look at the ingredients panel of the grape nuts.
Granola or Museli are better.  They are more whole food choices. 
Then, Oatmeal, hot rice or amaranth porrige are a bit better!

If your goal includes loss of body fat, then you can eat a veggie instead of fruit with the first meal.
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Re:Williemon's path - Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:35 PM ( #51 )
My next phase will be my bulk phase. I actually started it in August, but I am not seeing the results I was looking for. Im still going to bulk. My goal is to be 150 to 160 lbs at 10%bf or less. I wish my waist size to be 32 or less by the first of June. Looking at those figures, there will need to be a muscle gain and a fat loss component in my program. I would rather bulk slow and lean and have simply a minor cut to get to 10% or less. I would be pleased with that for this year.

Granola, Museli , Oatmeal, hot rice or amaranth porrige will be some choices for breakfast. I will also have milk and perhaps a veggie. What would a good tasting  veggie that would go with those??

Can peanut butter be somewhere in my daily menus? Before bed snack? Breakfast?

Is there a good toast like something or cracker to spread it on for dunking in my morning coffee?



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Re:Williemon's path - Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:02 PM ( #52 )
You can fine tune the program to hit your goal for June 1...actually to hit your goal 2 weeks before that so you can really fine tune the last two weeks.

You have 8 months. 

I would plan a program that was progressive for 12 weeks at a time with 1-2 weeks off.
I would consider a more traditional bodybuilding rather than a powerlifting progression. 

In fact I would recommend starting with a full body 3x per week routine with resistance training  under an hour...so you have to be efficient.  I do recommend something like the 3-day training program linked at the bottom of my gaining mass post.  THen progressing to something like a heavy and light progression days hitting the body at least 2x a week.


Do the math.  If you plan for between 0.5 and 2 pounds of mass per week...lets say you average 0.5 to 1.

How much mass do you need to gain.

160 at 10% means
144 lean mass
16 fat mass

Where are you now?
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Re:Williemon's path - Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:22 PM ( #53 )
Current
140 at 15% est tape method (used for past 2 years as tracking)
119 lean mass
21 fat mass

Need to gain 25lb lean mass, cut 5 lb fat mass. Im thinking the 3 day a week training like outlined in the article on t-nation or the 5x5 program you have listed in the gaining mass thread would be good choices. Ive already been through the HST program twice.  I dont think max-ot is for me and it seems the other ones are for the more advanced.

My overall goals (may take 1 year, may take 2 or more) for measurments are as follows:

Greek Formula based upon 6.5" wrist size
     Goal                                      current
Chest  42 inches                      38.5
Waist  29 inches                      35.5
Hip  36 inches                          37.5
Bicep  15 inches                       14
Forearm  12 inches                   12
Thigh  22 inches                        22
Calve  14 inches                        14
Neck  16 inches                        14.5
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Re:Williemon's path - Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:15 AM ( #54 )
OK.

Just a note that tape measure methods are not really reliable enough to tell you what you want to know as far as lean mass vs Fat Mass changes.   If your muscles get thicker, or you put on some fat...the tape is the same.

Please think about using a simple caliper to help you dial in your changes.
4 point tests up to 11 point tests are better than 2 or three point tests.

Calipers will measure mm changes in the subcutaneous fat fraction only.  Keep in mind that all the methods YOU can use to test your body fat yourself are unreliable on a one time basis.  They are better used to track changes over time on an ongoing basis. 

For your goal, you would want to test every week at the same time of day...and use the same scale to take your weight (weigh right after you wake up, generally right after you go to the bathroom first thing in the morn.) 

Here is a calculator, which I think you know about already, that allows you to use skinfold calipers (3 through 9 point test)
http://www.linear-software.com/online.html

Here is the best price I have found to date for good cheap accurate calipers:
skinfold Calipers <--- link to place on amazon where it is cheapest (about $21.50 including shipping) which includes the book with directions on proper caliper use.  This pair is the most used type by trainers and pros.

Also, if you plan to gain 25 pounds, I think your calf, forearm, and thigh will be gaining some muscle.

Again, 5x5 is not really a mass gaining system.  It is a strength routine.  You want to look at traditional hypertrophy (3-4 sets per muscle group 8-12 reps as a baseline) vs alternative training.

You want something with a regular progression, you want a follow up plan that has different progressions.

The recommendations I make are based on results.  If you were lifting in the 5 rep regimen (and making no gains), then you need to come back with something completely different, and geared toward hypertrophy instead of strength.

Maybe an 8 week plan with traditional hypertrophy progressions whole body 3x per week, a break, then The 8-week plan (3-day whole body training), a break, followed by 6 weeks of a 2-day split hitting the body 2.5 times per week, a break maybe followed by a 6-week 3-day split, then back to a whole body 3x per week  or 2-day split plan near the end of your period.

1 week breaks are good.

One question.  Have you ever had a 29 inch waist. 
That is dictated by bone as well as muscle and fat factors.
That seems to be the largest change.
I can easily see you going to 33 or 32.
You might bring that to 29-31 perhaps by the end of the final cutting phase you will need to do after your bulking.

5 pounds of fat can take 2.5 to 5 to 10 weeks to trim depending on how close to what you need to be doing you are able to stick.  So, at the end, plan give yourself 6-8 weeks to cut, and make changes to your overall plan by assessing at 16, 12, 10 and 8 weeks from your final deadline.

At that point you will train to hold muscle and maybe gain a quarter to half a pound here and there and focus on cutting nice and clean.  The last 4 weeks you will adjust again, for whatever you need.

The primary changes there will be diet.  A gradual tapering (when losses stall) of carbs from something like 50-65% down.

I noticed your carbs were already around 36% at the moment.  I would want to see that come up a bit (from whole food sources! not processed foods)  So that your body has what it needs to replenish carbs and grow muscle.

I would keep the fats below 30%.

20-25% protein is a good window.

When you start again after your layoff, your calories should be 2000-2200 for the first week.
Depending on your ideal ratio...
15-30% fat
20-25% protein
50-65% carbs

This is a mix of moderate and high protein oxidative type.

Starting with lower protein is better.  It lets you downregulate the protein wasting enzymes and as you gradually increase calories across the board (and thus protein) you can get a boost in muscle growth, and you can also gradually bring up the protein ratio and get an upregulation of muscle growth when gains stall.

I know, its 100 grams of protein to start.  You have 120 pound of lean mass, so that is fine.  You will be coming from a no training period, down regulating protein wasting, and with higher protein sparing carb intake.

You want to leave LOADS of room for progression on the table when you start.

How are you feeling with your current 2400 calories, 33% split diet?
Well fed?
focused?
not hungdry? 
happy moods?
sleep well?
tons of energy?
animal intensity in the gym?

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Re:Williemon's path - Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:40 PM ( #55 )
Thanks for the information. I know it will be hard work, but when I read what you write, I cant help but to realize that I really CAN do this. I have read other threads that you have created and a lot of the puzzle is starting to form. Im starting to understand how things fit together. Still much to learn though.

I have been wanting to get some calipers for awhile now. I will order some this week or early next.

I think I will feel good with the 3 to 4 sets of 8 to 12 rep range.

I had a 29" waist as a senior in high school. Since im almost 44 now that probably does not count. That and a 16" neck were the  areas I felt that I might not be able to attain.

I need to correct some current measures.
Bicep   13" unflexed
forearm 11.5" unflexed

Feelings on the 2400 33% split
well fed,

focus good

I  sometimes get slightly hungry right about feed time, but mostly not hungry

overall happy moods

Dont know about sleep. My 4 yr old gets up and wakes me around 4am about 4 nights a week. Sometimes I dont get to bed early enough(my fault). Id like better, deeper sleep. I hardly ever remember dreams (if I dream at all) and almost always wake up tired and stiff.

I do tend to have  even energy but I get really tired and lethargic about 30% of the time. I cant say I have tons. Ive had more energy at other times in my life.

animal intensity in the gym most of the time. Not on the 30% lethargic days though.

What do you think about this cereal?  
http://www.kashi.com/pr...s/golean_cereal_original

or this one?
http://www.usmillsllc.c...B3QJZwBhVyMAZwJuAWMBPV05


Ive cut out PB and wheat bread in the morning.  Still finishing up some cheereos and kashi crunch cereal. Going to hit a better breakfast come  monday. Not tracking calories at the moment this week. Im most likely getting about 2200 on some days and 2000 on others. Mostly 2200 though. Same breakfast minus about 300 cal from the toast PB and premix creatine. Going to get some plain creatine for morning for non workout days. Still eating the same lunches and dinners, added quiuoa and potatoes for lunches but no protein shake since im not lifting.

Note, since I am in an SD, Im feeling better. I must have been taxed.
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Re:Williemon's path - Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:08 PM ( #56 )
I am 42 and I don't see a problem with most of your goals.

Your neck just might go to 16 or 16.5 depending on your frame.

This is a great time to shoot for your goals.

Remember that the real mass exercises are the compound movements.  So try to use those when you can then fine tune with a few simple movements over time.

If you were fine with the high fat and high protein (not heavy and bloated and feeling ill) , I would guess you are a high protein/fat type.
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Re:Williemon's path - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 6:50 PM ( #57 )
Been resting. SD. Feeling good. No stress, at least not much. I went on a 4 day backpacking trip. Hiked a 30 mile section of the Benton MacKaye trail.   http://www.blueridgemou...enton_mackaye_trail.html

I went with 2 other guys. We did a 30 mile section from springer mountain on toward the north. That was one tough hike. Lost about 5 pounds. Been eating sugar junk foods these 2 days since I got back though. I will  rework the diet starting tomorrow though. Whole grains, lean meats, lots of veggies. Not lifting yet though. Going to get a program together and start sunday.
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Re:Williemon's path - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:18 PM ( #58 )
Awesome, that is an amazing range, I have hiked north of that, through the Appalachian mtns in Vermont.

Most of what you lost is water...and sugar.
Get some protein too!

Enjoy the workout this weekend!
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Re:Williemon's path - Monday, October 26, 2009 6:35 PM ( #59 )
Ive had a good break. I was going to get started again last night but got in late from a camping (car) trip with the family. Been eating too much junk though. Its funny how that stuff tastes so good, but really makes a person feel like crap.

Anyway, this week will be 2 workouts, tues and thur. Then pick up on the 3x week on sun. I dont even have the routine dialed in just yet.

Question: I will be including squats and regular dead lifts in the routine. Should they both be done every workout, or should I alternate them?

For my diet, Im going to try macros of 30 fat, 25 protein, and 45 carbs from 2400 cal to see how I feel.

training will be 3x full body. Mostly compounds with maybe some tricep, deltoid isolation every now and again.

Will update again soon.
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Re:Williemon's path - Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:25 AM ( #60 )
Sinus issues have kept me away from my gym. I have not had the ability to work out. Trying to keep these issues from developing into the flu. It comes and goes. Decided to wait untill sunday to start. been eating some junk though. Need to stop.

Need some more help with my breakfast food. I have been eating Uncle sam cerial (3/4 to 1 cup) and Kashi Go lean (high protein and fiber in the red box, 1 cup) and 1 cup FF milk, coffee and a little half and half. I like it so far. Now, is this a good breakfast or will it create too great of an insulin spike response? Should I add anything to it? Nutrition data web site shows a combined Glycemic load of 35 for this breakfast. Good? Bad? Not known?

                  name                                                    cal            fat Prot   carb

Cereals ready-to-eat, UNCLE SAM CEREAL
Qty: 1.0 x 1 cup (1 serving) (55g) 237 (51%) 6 g 9 g 36 g Weight Loss
Optimum Health
Weight Gain kashi Go Lean (red)
Qty: 1.0 x Custom Food (52g) 140 (30%) 1 g 13 g 30 g Weight Loss
Optimum Health
Weight Gain Milk, fluid, nonfat, calcium fortified (fat free or skim)
Qty: 1.0 x 1 cup (247g) 86 (19%) 0 g 8 g 12 g Weight Loss
Optimum Health
Weight Gain
Total Calories: 464 7.8 30.2 78.2







Still working out my actual lifts. Going to focus on compounds. 3 x per week full body. Will have workout A, B, and maybe C.  The difference in A, B, and C, will be different compound exercises. Same rep range and sets though.

Help me here, Squats for building mostly glutes and quads. How do I add deadlifts in the mix? And which ones? Squat and SL deadlift on one day and Regular DL only on next day, then what for the third day? Are lunge compounds? How might add them to the mix?

What should be a good mix for the lats and back? That it seems is a weak point for me. No real V taper.

Any thoughts??


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