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Which stack is better? - 8/3/2003 4:29:06 PM
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Saint
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I have read a lot of posts from people stacking 1 AD and 4 AD with 6 oxo on the off weeks. However, I have not seen people talk about a 1-Test (like 1 Testol Gels by Chemi Sport) and 1 AD (like 1 AD by Ergopharm) stack. Is there a reason why? Is this not a good stack or is the 1 AD / 4 AD stack better?
Also, if the 1/4 AD stack is actually better...I have heard it is better to use a 4 AD spray over the pills like Androspray....Is that good advice?
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RE: Which stack is better? - 8/3/2003 10:30:17 PM
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BobGrey
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i too was curious about that spray issue. i was thinking about using the ergopharm 300 with the 1-ad. but ergo also has a spray. anyone think the spray is better????
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RE: Which stack is better? - 8/4/2003 6:57:44 AM
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Twin Peak
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A good spray is always better, if you can still find them.
Why not stack 1-AD with 1-test? Simple.
1-test is an actual steroid, unlike other prohormones. Its just legal. It converts to nothing and acts in the body like testosterone. So its a great supplement/drug.
1-AD is a prohormone in its truest sense -- it converts to a steroid. What steroid? 1-testosterone. So you' d be stacking a precursor with its final form. Kinda silly.
So why so people use 1 AD instead of 1-test if they are both illegal? Good question. I never have, like I like Ergopharm a lot. I stick to topical 1-test products and stack (or not) 4-ad (depending on my goals).
Many people argue that 1AD is better than an oral 1-test. They say it has better absorption. There are no studies from which one can extrapolate this, and I can' t argue with the greta feedback that ergopharm gets.
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RE: Which stack is better? - 8/4/2003 12:57:14 PM
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Saint
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Thanks Twin.....
I am going to combine my " Topical PHs" subject and this one for ease.
I know see why my last cycle didn' t work. I took some bad advice and used the Anti-e with my PH' s. My goal is size and weight gain. I don' t think I have saturated my Androgen receptors but to make sure I am going to go on a 6 oxo cyle for 3-4 weeks to make sure and start fresh.
I don' t want to use lesser brands anymore....it is just a waist of money and time. So any detailed advice on this would be great......
If I have to take and oral then I will go with Ergo 1-AD....but if I can find a good topical 1-Test then I will use that.
Questions:
1) I checked out the Avant PH Gel per your advice...I can' t seem to figure out if I should consider it a 1-test, 1-ad or 4 ad....it doesn' t claim to be any of those so if I were to use it what would it replace?
2) What topical 1-test would you suggest (if the Avant PH Gel is not a 1-test or 1-ad), who makes it and any thoughts of where I could get it? (I have looked around and on-line companies each carry different brands)
3)Are you suggesting to use 4-diol over a 4-ad if my main goal is to gain size? If so why? and again....brand, product and where to get it, if that is so.
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RE: Which stack is better? - 8/4/2003 1:12:12 PM
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Avant gel, is just that, a gel.
You can buy bulk prohormones and add them to the gel. For example, find a bulk supplier and ad 12 grams of 1-test, or 6 grams of 1-test and 10 grams of 4-diol. Or if you hunt around 1 or 2 retailers still have Avant PHs like One and One+, I believe.
4-dione versus 4-diol. The diol is better.
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RE: Which stack is better? - 8/4/2003 1:23:04 PM
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Saint
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Great.....
are the gram dosages you mention per use or the total amount to use in the whole 8oz bottle?
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RE: Which stack is better? - 8/4/2003 1:29:26 PM
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TOTAL. You can add up to 16 grams of actives.
200 mgs is a decent daily dosage of 1 test (100 twice daily) and 200-600 for 4-diol.
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