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What Supplement should I be using. - 1/7/2008 7:29:32 PM
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c.j.dono
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I'm Trying to do what ever it takes to get big but not the roid way. What supplements, pro hormones or any should I be using. I'm looking for the MAX preformence. I use choc whay right now, the taste is not so great and I also use creatine. If you could help thanks
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/7/2008 7:38:10 PM
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I'm Trying to do what ever it takes to get big but not the roid way. What supplements, pro hormones or any should I be using. I'm looking for the MAX preformence. I use choc whay right now, the taste is not so great and I also use creatine. If you could help thanks
Diet is 60%, training is 30%, and supplementation is 10% of progress... So, you need to get the higher percentages down first... and a lot of ppl consider pro hormones to be steroids... or at least precursors to them...
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/7/2008 8:02:10 PM
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How old are you? I can't really recommend much more then creatine and protein without knowing how old you are.
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/7/2008 8:16:19 PM
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I'm Trying to do what ever it takes to get big but not the roid way. What supplements, pro hormones or any should I be using. I'm looking for the MAX preformence. I use choc whay right now, the taste is not so great and I also use creatine. If you could help thanks
Diet is 60%, training is 30%, and supplementation is 10% of progress... So, you need to get the higher percentages down first... and a lot of ppl consider pro hormones to be steroids... or at least precursors to them...
But that 10% makes a huge differnts, And yeah your right about that but does it still have the long term side effects? no.
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/7/2008 8:17:24 PM
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I'm 17.
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/7/2008 8:27:09 PM
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I'm 17.
Here's what I would do:
Get yourself some bulk citrulline malate, arginine akg, beta alanine, caffeine, and micronized mono.
Then make your own preworkout drinks. If you get it in bulk it'll last you a long time and with this combo you'll get killer pumps and good strength increases. Maybe throw in some bcaas in there if you're cutting.
Other then that just use a good whey + oats after workouts and maybe casein before bed.
All you really need at 17 is lots of food though.
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/7/2008 8:38:11 PM
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But that 10% makes a huge differnts, And yeah your right about that but does it still have the long term side effects? no.
lol (@ the incorrect rhetorical question u asked)... they may... prohormones are a relatively new thing... they can have the same immediate side effects, so who's to say they dont have the same long-term sides? Since they're new, we dont know what will be happening to the ppl taking them later down the road...
and at 17, you're definitely too young to be using them anyways.
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/7/2008 8:43:13 PM
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But that 10% makes a huge differnts, And yeah your right about that but does it still have the long term side effects? no.
Ohh I missed this post. Prohormones have the same side effects as steroids, they just need to be converted but the end result is the same. And there aren't really many prohormones on the market anymore anyway, most are steroids.
But whatever I gave you advice on what you can take at your age, but you can take whatever you want it's your body. Just don't come crying back because you've grown a set of tits and need to take viagra to get a hard on.
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/8/2008 9:33:28 AM
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c.j.dono
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But that 10% makes a huge differnts, And yeah your right about that but does it still have the long term side effects? no.
Ohh I missed this post. Prohormones have the same side effects as steroids, they just need to be converted but the end result is the same. And there aren't really many prohormones on the market anymore anyway, most are steroids.
But whatever I gave you advice on what you can take at your age, but you can take whatever you want it's your body. Just don't come crying back because you've grown a set of tits and need to take viagra to get a hard on.
Well thanks I didn't look in to anything about pro hormones, But Thanks but kinda of sick of whay (the taste) Would muscle milk be better in taste/proformence?
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/8/2008 9:36:54 AM
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But that 10% makes a huge differnts, And yeah your right about that but does it still have the long term side effects? no.
lol (@ the incorrect rhetorical question u asked)... they may... prohormones are a relatively new thing... they can have the same immediate side effects, so who's to say they dont have the same long-term sides? Since they're new, we dont know what will be happening to the ppl taking them later down the road...
and at 17, you're definitely too young to be using them anyways.
Well I'm sorry I didn't know but I'm new And I didnt know... and hey who knows they might not have the same side effect never know it's still knew. But I'll still stick to the basic's, diet, and workout.
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/8/2008 11:59:11 AM
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use the whey pre and post workout... musclemilk is a casein protein and should be used before bed
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/8/2008 12:43:33 PM
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c.j.dono
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Any type of supplement that is like whay that tastes good, and dont whay and musle milk do the same thing?
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/8/2008 1:32:04 PM
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Well I'm sorry I didn't know but I'm new And I didnt know... and hey who knows they might not have the same side effect never know it's still knew. But I'll still stick to the basic's, diet, and workout.
They may not, but just think about it... 1) they are precursors to steroids... 2) They have the same short term side effects... they more than likely have the same long term sides.. it just makes sense...
And muscle milk has casein protein, which is a slow-digesting protein, whereas whey is a fast-digesting protein.
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/8/2008 3:56:53 PM
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c.j.dono
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Well I'm sorry I didn't know but I'm new And I didnt know... and hey who knows they might not have the same side effect never know it's still knew. But I'll still stick to the basic's, diet, and workout.
They may not, but just think about it... 1) they are precursors to steroids... 2) They have the same short term side effects... they more than likely have the same long term sides.. it just makes sense...
And muscle milk has casein protein, which is a slow-digesting protein, whereas whey is a fast-digesting protein.
Yeah I'know gives me the runs... The taste is REALLY BAD.
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/8/2008 5:42:36 PM
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well they do sort of....the musclemilk breaks down really slow, so its optimal for bedtime use. the whey breaks down very quickley and gets to your muscles fast, so it is the best type of protein to use post workout
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/9/2008 3:54:19 PM
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c.j.dono
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well they do sort of....the musclemilk breaks down really slow, so its optimal for bedtime use. the whey breaks down very quickley and gets to your muscles fast, so it is the best type of protein to use post workout
But they do the same thing, just muscle milk is slower?
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/10/2008 11:37:32 AM
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I had a talk with two my friends in my first period, One who is a huge and lifts 300 but hes got no fat, and the other one is a wrestler for the school, and goes to state and wins. They Know some stuff and they said If anything I should be taking amino acid supplements, creatine/cellmass, glutamine, and protein. Also they said that if i wanted I could take testisterone booster, Becasue what it does is it lowers estrogen level and that makes you gain? Something like that? Also they said most wanna be roid pills dont work, the only ones that really work is the injections. And I'll talk more about it with them but just figure you guys know more than they do, there only 17 and doing this for only 3 years but I may throw this out there but would methyl 1-d be good to take at my age of 17.
Methyl 1-D HighLights:
Extreme Gains in Strength and Size
Skyrocketing Testosterone Levels
Increased Muscle Mass
Supercharged Sex Drive
Increased Fat Loss
No Gyno Or Estrogen Effects – due to the estrogen blocker
No Hair Loss – because we block DHT
Ramped up Metabolism and Thermogenesis
Greater Conversion of Glucose to Energy rather than Fat.
Incredible Sense of Power That Comes from a Boost in Testosterone
No Gyno Or Estrogen Effects – due to the estrogen blocker
No Hair Loss – because we block DHT
Ramped up Metabolism and Thermogenesis
Greater Conversion of Glucose to Energy rather than Fat.
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/10/2008 11:50:52 AM
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I had a talk with two my friends in my first period, One who is a huge and lifts 300 but hes got no fat, and the other one is a wrestler for the school, and goes to state and wins. They Know some stuff and they said If anything I should be taking amino acid supplements, creatine/cellmass, glutamine, and protein. Also they said that if i wanted I could take testisterone booster, Becasue what it does is it lowers estrogen level and that makes you gain? Something like that? Also they said most wanna be roid pills dont work, the only ones that really work is the injections. And I'll talk more about it with them but just figure you guys know more than they do, there only 17 and doing this for only 3 years but I may throw this out there but would methyl 1-d be good to take at my age of 17.
Well it sounds like they're right or some things and wrong on others.
Testosterone boosters work by reducing estrogen, yeah that's true. ai's like novedext xt will boost test by inhibiting aromatase or the conversion of test into estrogen.
They're right about taking creatine aminos, etc.
They're wrong about "wanna be roids" not working. If you know what to look for you can get powerful stuff, like superdrol which will acctually get you more muscle faster then injectables.
About methyl1d, it's weak stuff. Mostly just dhea and an ai. Legal gear came out with this stuff because of the prohormone ban.
It might give you 4-5lbs and a bit of strength, but so could a good creatine product. So honestly I don't think it's worth it to be messing with it at 17 at all, because it will only lead you to stronger and stronger stuff way before you're ready. Remember that it can stunt your growth and cause some sides like acne.
But I can tell you want to take something more hardcore, so I would say before you buy that look into
x-factor. People gained like 10lbs on it and it's nonhormonal. Also m-stak and activate extreme.
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/10/2008 12:12:57 PM
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I had a talk with two my friends in my first period, One who is a huge and lifts 300 but hes got no fat, and the other one is a wrestler for the school, and goes to state and wins. They Know some stuff and they said If anything I should be taking amino acid supplements, creatine/cellmass, glutamine, and protein. Also they said that if i wanted I could take testisterone booster, Becasue what it does is it lowers estrogen level and that makes you gain? Something like that? Also they said most wanna be roid pills dont work, the only ones that really work is the injections. And I'll talk more about it with them but just figure you guys know more than they do, there only 17 and doing this for only 3 years but I may throw this out there but would methyl 1-d be good to take at my age of 17.
Methyl 1-D HighLights:
Extreme Gains in Strength and Size
Skyrocketing Testosterone Levels
Increased Muscle Mass
Supercharged Sex Drive
Increased Fat Loss
No Gyno Or Estrogen Effects – due to the estrogen blocker
No Hair Loss – because we block DHT
Ramped up Metabolism and Thermogenesis
Greater Conversion of Glucose to Energy rather than Fat.
Incredible Sense of Power That Comes from a Boost in Testosterone
No Gyno Or Estrogen Effects – due to the estrogen blocker
No Hair Loss – because we block DHT
Ramped up Metabolism and Thermogenesis
Greater Conversion of Glucose to Energy rather than Fat.
I tried Methyl 1-D, Liquid Masterdrol, the Growth Hormone Secretogue (sp?) and the whole LG Sciences Stack. I honestly didnt get jack **** off of it. The Liquid Masterdrol is a decent pre-workout supp. But nothing that a NO product couldnt do for you. I disliked Methyl 1-D.
I also used Methyl Masterdrol from LG before the ban and it completely tore up my liver. Sad thing was I was taking a lot of Milk Thistle as well.
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RE: What Supplement should I be using. - 1/10/2008 1:01:25 PM
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c.j.dono
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ha I dont wanna do that then. I dont wanna hurt my body. But the other things I list would be good? amino acid supplements, creatine/cellmass, glutamine, and protein
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