What About THIS?

I'm finishing up my HST next week, and already giddy about gettting into splits. The thing is, i've tried every possible split routines there are and i am SICK AND TIRED of same old sh!t. i was thinking of doing something like;

Week A:
Chest/bicep
back/tricep
legs/delts/abs

Week B:
chest/tricep
back/bicep
legs/delts/abs

repeat week A after week B. then after 4 weeks of that, i'll do one week of 3-day-full-body followed by 2 weeks of splits,  then 2 weeks of 3-day-full-body. then repeat the 4 week cycle of splits followed by the 1 week of full body and repeat the 2 week splits/2week full body..you follow?

question is, is that a good way of shocking your muscles? a simple yes or no followed by an explanation would be good. Not some wiehgt-lifting technical jargon. no offense to those who do, i just want a simple answer. ahaha thanks.

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looks way too complicated and not enough time to progress in any of the workouts

Try it out and see how it works. Only you know what works best for you.

For the question about it shocking your muscles, it should. I know people who never do the same exercise each time and they're always switching things up and they are pretty big.

So try it out and if you aren't seeing results, change it up.

Lifts: Bench-285, ATG Squat-485, Deadlift-495

i like where you're going with this.   so.. yes, it does look like a good idea so far.

agree with legbeast though,  try it out. let's see how it works for you.    and just remember.. there's not a 100% perfect routine out there that works the same for every person.   some things work well for you, that might not work so well for me...   see what i mean?


one thing i did notice was 4 weeks of splits, and 1 week of full body followed by more splits??  did i follow that correctly?

here's my suggestion (and that's all it is, so my feelings won't be hurt if you don't do it)
why not do 4 weeks of splits followed by 4 weeks of full body, followed by a maxout day and 1 week of reconditioning?... and then, start over if you wish.

enjoy. let us know how it works for you.

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i dont think going between splits and full body is bad at all but 2 weeks and 1 weeks is so quick. the muscles you train when you start the split wont get as much rest as those later in the week and even your 2 split weeks are different so you wont know if your really making progress on most lifts. who knows it could work for you but i think it would make more sense to at least do 3-4 weeks

I dont really like it...

your basically doing a chest/back/legs...which I cant really figure out why your doing delts on leg day when they would be most fitting on chest...

then your doing a 3 day full body and then switching back and forth?

As long as your progressively loading I see no reason to switch it up...

But give it a shot if you want.

current 5rm On the texas method
Squat:325
Deadlift:365
Bench:255
My lifting journal

http://strengthmill.net/forum/showthread.php?s=38c084ec0455b629ed0f09e4af40aeaf&t=2407&page=8

ORIGINAL: Nm0ney34

I dont really like it...

your basically doing a chest/back/legs...which I cant really figure out why your doing delts on leg day when they would be most fitting on chest...

then your doing a 3 day full body and then switching back and forth?

As long as your progressively loading I see no reason to switch it up...

But give it a shot if you want.

i like to keep my muscles fresh. meaning, i'm not a huge fan of back + bi's workouts, cuz by the time i get to biceps, their worn out from back exercises. so if i did chest + shoulders, my delts woulndt be as fresh as i want them to be.

"A severed foot is the ultimate stocking-stuffer" "Obsession is what the LAZY use to describe dedication" "You put your faith in Christianity. I put mine in artillery"

Week B is basically chest/back/legs.

My point was is on chest day your going to be hitting the shoulders with pressing movements, so if your set on doing something like this it makes more sense to just include your other shoulder exercises on your chest day. so your shoulders are going to be getting hit 2 days...

also, your bi's and tris are going to be hit 2 days...while much more bigger important mucles are only getting hit one day...accept for when you do the 3-day full body.

Why not just pick one routine, go until it stops working and then just switch to the other one instead of trying to mix and match.

I mean if its a matter of switching things up constantly, change exercises reps/sets (HST?) change the tempo... but constantly changing something like a whole routine every other week, it just doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me.

half the routine is lacking frequency.

Maybe it will work for you, I dunno...the above is just my opinion.

ORIGINAL: Tommy_Boy420

ORIGINAL: Nm0ney34

I dont really like it...

your basically doing a chest/back/legs...which I cant really figure out why your doing delts on leg day when they would be most fitting on chest...

then your doing a 3 day full body and then switching back and forth?

As long as your progressively loading I see no reason to switch it up...

But give it a shot if you want.

i like to keep my muscles fresh. meaning, i'm not a huge fan of back + bi's workouts, cuz by the time i get to biceps, their worn out from back exercises. so if i did chest + shoulders, my delts woulndt be as fresh as i want them to be.

current 5rm On the texas method
Squat:325
Deadlift:365
Bench:255
My lifting journal

http://strengthmill.net/forum/showthread.php?s=38c084ec0455b629ed0f09e4af40aeaf&t=2407&page=8

ORIGINAL: Nm0ney34

Week B is basically chest/back/legs.

My point was is on chest day your going to be hitting the shoulders with pressing movements, so if your set on doing something like this it makes more sense to just include your other shoulder exercises on your chest day. so your shoulders are going to be getting hit 2 days...

also, your bi's and tris are going to be hit 2 days...while much more bigger important mucles are only getting hit one day...accept for when you do the 3-day full body.

Why not just pick one routine, go until it stops working and then just switch to the other one instead of trying to mix and match.

I mean if its a matter of switching things up constantly, change exercises reps/sets (HST?) change the tempo... but constantly changing something like a whole routine every other week, it just doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me.

half the routine is lacking frequency.

Maybe it will work for you, I dunno...the above is just my opinion.

i agree with ur point that it's unnecessary to change things that much especially just for the point of "changing things" and "shocking the muscles" but plenty of people hit the bi's and tri's on different days than on chest/back days

I know, but what I guess im trying to say is he is hitting the bi's and tri's twice...he is leaving out other things like back/legs/chest, only doing those once. He is hitting shoulders twice too.
 
I never really liked the idea of bi/chest and back/tri. Just always seemed like another reason to do more arm work
 
thats just my opinion though.
 

current 5rm On the texas method
Squat:325
Deadlift:365
Bench:255
My lifting journal

http://strengthmill.net/forum/showthread.php?s=38c084ec0455b629ed0f09e4af40aeaf&t=2407&page=8

ORIGINAL: Nm0ney34

I know, but what I guess im trying to say is he is hitting the bi's and tri's twice...he is leaving out other things like back/legs/chest, only doing those once. He is hitting shoulders twice too.

I never really liked the idea of bi/chest and back/tri. Just always seemed like another reason to do more arm work

thats just my opinion though.

how would i be leaving out my back and legs??? i would be working out 6 days in a row. check it:

mon-chest/bi
tue-back.tri
wed-legs/shoulders
thurs-chest/bi
fri-back/tri
sat-legs/shoulders

i hit everything twice.

"A severed foot is the ultimate stocking-stuffer" "Obsession is what the LAZY use to describe dedication" "You put your faith in Christianity. I put mine in artillery"

ORIGINAL: Tommy_Boy420

ORIGINAL: Nm0ney34

I know, but what I guess im trying to say is he is hitting the bi's and tri's twice...he is leaving out other things like back/legs/chest, only doing those once. He is hitting shoulders twice too.

I never really liked the idea of bi/chest and back/tri. Just always seemed like another reason to do more arm work

thats just my opinion though.

how would i be leaving out my back and legs??? i would be working out 6 days in a row. check it:

mon-chest/bi
tue-back.tri
wed-legs/shoulders
thurs-chest/bi
fri-back/tri
sat-legs/shoulders

i hit everything twice.

how much volume per session? seems like an unnecessary amount of work

Do the same routine I gave to SilverFox, he's getting good gains from it, and he's cutting.  I can PM you all the details if you need.

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then PM it to me son

"A severed foot is the ultimate stocking-stuffer" "Obsession is what the LAZY use to describe dedication" "You put your faith in Christianity. I put mine in artillery"

why not just post it...