What would happen if I added 520 calories more a day from purely protien?

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What would happen if I added 520 calories more a day from purely protien? - Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:17 PM ( #1 )
I've been maintaining my weight for the last few weeks.  I've been eating low carbs on the weekdays, and whatever I want on the weekends.  It's been working pretty well for me actually.  I feel as if I could use some extra calories for recovery, so I was just gonna add in an extra 2 protien + shakes w/water a day.
 
Now, I'm thinking that this extra 520 calories per day probably isn't going to make me gain weight, although it might, but only for a short while.  I also don't think protien gets stored as fat like excess carbs do. 
 
So will this extra 500 help in my recovery? Or will it possibly cause me to gain more muscle while not gaining fat? I dunno.  Usually when people add calories to thier diet, it is a mix of macros. 
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Re:What would happen if I added 520 calories more a day from purely protien? - Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:41 PM ( #2 )
If your body needs it, then nothing negative will come of it. Extra protein always helped me. But, too much will turn into glucose.
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Re:What would happen if I added 520 calories more a day from purely protien? - Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:46 PM ( #3 )
Well, it really depends on how much protein you're consuming at the moment.

I don't imagine extra protein would hurt. If extra protein is used as glucose it's a bad thing though... this is because when protein is converted to glucose it generates ammonia which is toxic. Afterwords, it must then be converted to urea and excreted, which requires a large amount of water which very often results in dehydration, which is why they say make sure the carb or fat intake is always higher than protein, to avoid protein being used as energy. 

You then have the affects that can be used on the kidneys. Excess protein/amino acids that go unused to make enzymes are striped of nitrogen. Then "unnitronized" amino acids are used for energy (resulting in the above mentioning) or stored as fat. Then the remaining nitrogen is eventually excreted by your kidneys and liver thus increasing potential for kidney stones.

If you feel you need it for recovery issues though, that's often a sign that your body may be telling you it wants it. I would just recommend that the protein intake not exceed fat intake on the weekdays (since you are on low carb).
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Re:What would happen if I added 520 calories more a day from purely protien? - Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:11 PM ( #4 )
its extra calories so it could help u gain weight

but your body cannot store excess protein, so the excess amino acids that are not used to make enzymes or other proteins will be striped of nitrogen. these non nitrogen parts of amino acids are used for energy or stored as fat!!

hope that clears it up
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Re:What would happen if I added 520 calories more a day from purely protien? - Friday, September 25, 2009 2:44 AM ( #5 )
simply, if you have been miantaining your weight, then the extra 3500 calories a week will gain approx  one pound of weight per week in the short term. as mentioned above, to stop the extra protein being used as energy and thus avoiding the negative side effects, ensure that the other combination of macros exceeds your protein intake.
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Re:What would happen if I added 520 calories more a day from purely protien? - Friday, September 25, 2009 9:51 AM ( #6 )
I dunno.....

First off, I think I've been near starvation mode, because once I started eating a little bit more, I started LOSING more weight (which is not what I wanted to do).

Second, I know that an extra 500 calories over maintainence = weight gain of ~ 1 lb/week, but I don't believe that all calories are created equal.  If I ate an extra 500 calories from purely carbs, or purely fat, I think the net results would be different then 500 from purely protien.

I think it's more then just calories, but I don't quite understand how each macro effects everything.  Which is why I asked "what would an extra 500 calories from purely protien do?"  It actually caused me to GET LEANER.......

Weird.
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Re:What would happen if I added 520 calories more a day from purely protien? - Friday, September 25, 2009 11:28 PM ( #7 )
well made suggestion pal...

i second ur thoughts abt the excess protien content..!!..
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Re:What would happen if I added 520 calories more a day from purely protien? - Saturday, September 26, 2009 8:55 AM ( #8 )
I think your right in that depending on where your getting the calories from it will be a bit different. However, I suppose it depends on what the rest of your diet is like as well.

Your body does store protein, its your muscles...

If you get too much at one time its basically a waste.

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The body is unable to store excess protein. Protein is digested into amino acids which enter the bloodstream. Excess amino acids are converted to other usable molecules by the liver in a process called deamination. Deamination converts nitrogen from the amino acid into ammonia which is converted by the liver into urea in the urea cycle. Excretion of urea is performed by the kidneys. These organs can normally cope with any extra workload but if kidney disease occurs, a decrease in protein will often be prescribed.[13][citation needed]


Many researchers think excessive intake of protein forces increased calcium excretion. If there is to be excessive intake of protein, it is thought that a regular intake of calcium would be able to stabilize, or even increase the uptake of calcium by the small intestine, which would be more beneficial in older women"

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anyway, I dont know what your current macro's are and knowing you, you probably have no idea or dont care :P. First I would recommend if your going to try to get all this from protein to space them out in more then 2 shakes a day, perhaps 4 smaller ones.

I would advise you to break it up some. get some fibrous or a starchy carb in, and some good fats along with your protein.

500 cals could be something like

1 piece whole grain bread, tuna+mayo + peanuts/almonds

Potato + chicken breast + some veggies

2 small shakes + pbutter + oats in them

etc... I think theres a much better way to do this, but I really dont know what your carb/fat/protein ratio is...and to be honest im still working on understanding it better myself. You should probably ask Dan this question and see what he says.
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Re:What would happen if I added 520 calories more a day from purely protien? - Saturday, September 26, 2009 1:47 PM ( #9 )
Ammonia is also toxic to the body and when it is excreted through urea it requires a lot of water and often results in dehydration.

As far as adding calories, I'd add more carbs.
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