What in Muscle Milk could increase anger?

I was never smacked and have turned out just fine. Imo a parent who finds they need to smack their child rather than using actual parenting methods is failing as a parent, and if it goes further to using objects then thats abuse in my opinion. If you look at those who ask those child psychology nannies for help, after just a few weeks their little brats who throw regular tantrums have turned into kids respecting their parents, eating what they are given and actually enjoying it, and benefitting from a closer relationship with their parents, thats real parenting.

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Smacking is a parenting method.

"But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies."

_Virtuoso_

If you look at those who ask those child psychology nannies for help, after just a few weeks they have their kids respecting them, eating what they are given and actually enjoying it, and benefitting from a closer relationship with their parents, thats real parenting.

If you need to ask a child psychology nanny what you are doing wrong, you are not a good parent at all.

"But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies."

King Bill Raaaymond


Smacking is a parenting method.

Yeh, one that shows lack of willingness to find and solve the problem in a way that helps the child also understand why it needs to be done. Infact it's just a lazy method.

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King Bill Raaaymond

_Virtuoso_

If you look at those who ask those child psychology nannies for help, after just a few weeks they have their kids respecting them, eating what they are given and actually enjoying it, and benefitting from a closer relationship with their parents, thats real parenting.

If you need to ask a child psychology nanny what you are doing wrong, you are not a good parent at all.

That's not true, in nature we are given an instinct to nurture and provide for our offspring and to raise them. We aren't programmed with the knowledge of how to deal with situations as parents, only how to provide. There is no biological inherited manual for parents, it's understandable a lot of people need guidance. And besides those that do go to nannies likely have the same problem as those that dont, they just take the choice to understand how to solve the problem without hitting their kids, the ones that choose otherwise have decided hitting their kids will simply solve the problem.

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Wetdawg

RedJeep


Its funny that people that were hit as a kid think that's how they need to teach discipline to their kids. Like there is no other way.

How many kids do you have?
 
Here is how it works...no studies, actual fact.
1. talk to them about what they have done and explain how things are to be done.
2. Corner time for same infraction
3. If infraction reoccurs, pop in the rear time.
4. hhhhhmmm there is no 4.

This is how I was taught. This is the best way. It's not lazy. Lazy is when you let a kid be the boss and do whatever the hell he or she wants. You are telling them what they are doing wrong and if they do it again, it's a simple pop on the rear. Some parents go to the extreme and hit the rear with a belt, which I may or may not agree with. But when my sister knew better and she still wrote on the walls with a permanent marker, she got two lashes with a belt on the butt, now she knows markers and pens are used at her desk, not on furniture or the kitchen walls.

You guys act like the kids are getting beat like it's a ****ing boxing ring. come on.

Hmmm this will make alot of you crazy...here goes...
 
 
 
 
My Generation                                            Today's Generation
 Got spanked when wrong                           Lost the video game when wrong
 Got in fights at school                                  Killed everyone in school
 Gave apology for fight                                  Killed themselves after killing in school
 Learned better skills being a parent            Lacks flowers on the gravestone
 
 

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Perrynaytor


This is how I was taught. This is the best way. It's not lazy. Lazy is when you let a kid be the boss and do whatever the hell he or she wants. You are telling them what they are doing wrong and if they do it again, it's a simple pop on the rear. Some parents go to the extreme and hit the rear with a belt, which I may or may not agree with. But when my sister knew better and she still wrote on the walls with a permanent marker, she got two lashes with a belt on the butt, now she knows markers and pens are used at her desk, not on furniture or the kitchen walls.

You guys act like the kids are getting beat like it's a ****ing boxing ring. come on.

This was the way I grew up. We called it a strap: a 8 inch long 1/4 inch wide old belt with fringes cut in the end.....oh yea, I learned to listen well.

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mein scheinehund ist daheim
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6'5" 270 Lbs

The punishment must fit the crime.

"But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies."

I guess we all have opinions about how children should be raised and how we deal with them is our own decision. I was stating my opinion on the matter, sorry if I insulted anyone's practice.

RedJeep


I guess we all have opinions about how children should be raised and how we deal with them is our own decision. I was stating my opinion on the matter, sorry if I insulted anyone's practice.

Nothing taken here! We are Discussing, no name calling here. I have to tell you though, being in the Military and doing what we had to do was hard on me emotionally. But the hardest thing I ever had to do was spank my kids for a reoccuring problem and listen to them cry. Worst thing ever!.....Love is tough.

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Wetdawg

RedJeep


I guess we all have opinions about how children should be raised and how we deal with them is our own decision. I was stating my opinion on the matter, sorry if I insulted anyone's practice.

Nothing taken here! We are Discussing, no name calling here. I have to tell you though, being in the Military and doing what we had to do was hard on me emotionally. But the hardest thing I ever had to do was spank my kids for a reoccuring problem and listen to them cry. Worst thing ever!.....Love is tough.

I remember my dad spanking me one time and he told me that he could never do it again after having to listen to me cry. I did get the soap in the mouth a few times because I had a mouth like a sailor lol.

RedJeep

Wetdawg

RedJeep


I guess we all have opinions about how children should be raised and how we deal with them is our own decision. I was stating my opinion on the matter, sorry if I insulted anyone's practice.

Nothing taken here! We are Discussing, no name calling here. I have to tell you though, being in the Military and doing what we had to do was hard on me emotionally. But the hardest thing I ever had to do was spank my kids for a reoccuring problem and listen to them cry. Worst thing ever!.....Love is tough.

I remember my dad spanking me one time and he told me that he could never do it again after having to listen to me cry. I did get the soap in the mouth a few times because I had a mouth like a sailor lol.

Haha...me too, forgot about that! thanks for reminding me...i think, LOL

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mein scheinehund ist daheim
48 yrs young
6'5" 270 Lbs

I'm with RedJeep and _Vurt on this one. Not that I'm bringing anyones parenting methods into question, but i just know I would never want to make a kid cry....

Also, wetdawg regarding your comment earlier, yeah, my brother is 24. hasn't talked to my parents in years. They used to hit him so much, it would make him depressed, so he turned to deliquincy and pot..... shame.

CreaOtine


I'm with RedJeep and _Vurt on this one. Not that I'm bringing anyones parenting methods into question, but i just know I would never want to make a kid cry....

Also, wetdawg regarding your comment earlier, yeah, my brother is 24. hasn't talked to my parents in years. They used to hit him so much, it would make him depressed, so he turned to deliquincy and pot..... shame.

Sorry to hear that. Its true that some do take it to far. You don't want to be near me if you hit a kid with a closed fist. Its like showing a pitbull a cat. There is no exscuse for that to happen. I hope your brother gets some help and gets his life back on track. He doesn't have to interact with your parents, he just needs to move on and be a better person for himself.

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don't see what's ****ed up. My mom used to beat my ass with the first thing she finds which is usually the belt. It was studded

alot or these baba kids need a good whippin some are so bad.alot of times be the only love they get.so sad.

DONT BLAME THE PITBULL TRAIN THE PITBULL .BAN THE DEED NOT THE BREED.... OH YES MY GRAMR AND SPELNG SUCK AZZ...I KNOW.. THERE ARE NO BAD DOGS.JUST BAD OWNERS...

ive gotten beat to the point that ive had the cops called to my house. Only thing that ever made me get was angry and only made my father angrier after the cops were there when he came home.

Maybe it taught me to keep in line but it also made me angry and wanting revenge. I really think there are better methods out there.

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PumaKrieg


ive gotten beat to the point that ive had the cops called to my house. Only thing that ever made me get was angry and only made my father angrier after the cops were there when he came home.

Maybe it taught me to keep in line but it also made me angry and wanting revenge. I really think there are better methods out there.

x3

I remember my dad did smack me once, all it did was destroy our relationship for a month, I was about 8 or 9.

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i believe in getting whoopings lol, i see alot of kids walk all over their parents because of alternate parenting methods, i was whooped plenty when i was younger, most of the things i was whooped for i never did again lol, and my mom was the main one that whooped me, from the hand, nice thick belts, one time with a wooden cutting board lol

my dad didnt whoop me as much or as hard, when my mom would tell my dad to handle it i was actually releived haha

anytime when i was given punishment like being grounded or something of value taken away from me i kind of shrugged it off like it was nothing, but i dreaded that whooping, it got soo bad i had to protect my ass with multiple layers of underwear lol, until i got caught haha got whooped for that too

til this day i respect my parents, dont ever talk back, we cool as can be

"spare the rod, spoil the child"

update! 8/3/09

maxes and goals
bench - need to remax
goal bench - 405

squat - need to remax
goal squat - 500

deadlift - need to remax
goal deadlift - 500
weight -174.8 8%bf 

jonb112303

"spare the rod, spoil the child"

Actually its "spare the rod, spoil the sheep" in the original texts
This refers to ancient hebrew herdsmen. Then, they used long rods guide their sheep. A herdsmean would NEVER inflict pain on his most prized possession. What the bible is telling those who are blind enough to follow its every word is to guide their children, not hurt them.

This line pisses me off. in case you didn't notice with the snide comment above I'm atheist. My dad is not. He uses this line on me all the time, and i'm like wtf??? He knows im not religous, yet he still sheds this on me.

The Price $$

 
Have to agree with that one!

''If one is after quick results one never learns an art.''

Erich Fromm

punishment is meant to be cruel if its not then theres no point it has to be cruel and unusual or theres no reason for it at all, EG it has to be something like spankings etc to get it across a kids head to NOT DO THAT AGAIN

219 weight trying to lower 217 now. 2 months later. lol.
250 bench
305 squat
345 deadlift

OK guys....I have a rather different view on punishing kids.

I got my ^ss whooped with Hot Wheels Road track when I was a kid....A LOT!!!!
I deserved it every time too!!!! "This is gonna hurt me alot more than it's gonna hurt you" my Dad used to say....and to this day...I believe he meant it.
It did teach me the difference between right and wrong.....and I knew that with bad actions,come consequenses.

AS A PARENT:

I have never laid a hand on either of my daughters.
I found that the threat of an asswhipping is much more effective,than the actual spanking. You fear the unknown much more than the reality of it.

It's like a friend of mine who hit his wife one night.....I told him "dude...It's over"
Why he asked?
#1 if you promise never to do it again....She knows you'll never hit her again....and try her damndest to get you to.....push you over the edge....You're done!!!!
#2....If you do have to resort to violence again.....It's over...Or should be....

You control a woman , much like a child through threats and intimidation...once you resort to violence...you have lost!!!

Now before all the ladies (all 3 of you) jump on me....I treat my wife (and my GF) as equal(s) and don't think women or children are inferior to me. Just the way I was brought up in the mountains of redneck virginia...Right or wrong...It has served me well!!!!!

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Just take the privilege of going to the restroom away lol
that did it for me.
talked back to my mama and she made me hold it til i pissed all over my pants..
never talked back again lol