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What do you think? - Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:38 PM ( #1 )
Starting to lift post-football season.. going into senior season and really need to get on something that sticks..

 My split has been as follows:
              

Day 1: Chest
I try to get a total of 12-14 sets with including-

-Flat Dumbbell or Barbell bench (1/4 cycles I'll do BB Bench)- 3-4 sets
-Incline Barbell (most likely) or Dumbell bench-3-4 sets
-Machine PecFlys or Flatbench dumbell pecflys- 3-4 sets
-Weighted dips 3-4 sets

Day 2: Back
12-14 sets w/ including-

-Wide-Grip Pullups or Wide-Grip Pulldowns- 3-4 sets
-BB Deads or Weighted Back Extensions (every other week)- 3-4 sets
-WG Bent over row- 3-4 sets
-Close-grip seated Row- 3-4 sets

Day 3: Shoulders
10-12 sets of sho. & iso. traps-

-Stand-up BB Shoulder Press (front and back) or DB Military Press- 3-4 sets
-DB or Plate Front Raises- 3-4 sets
-DB side raises or BB upright rows or Machine side raises- 3-4 sets
Sit-down DB Shrugs- 3 sets

Day 4: Arms
8-9 of Bi & 8-9 of Tri (every cycle, start with opposite of week before)-

-Chin-ups or Hammer Chinups- 3-4 sets
-Preacher Machine Curls or EZ curl chins- 3-4 sets
-Hammer Curls (if hammer chinups aren't done) or isolation cable curls- 3 sets

-Close-grip Press or EZ curl skullcrushers 3-4 sets
-Rope Pushdowns or flat bar pushdowns or cable pushdown tri-supersets or Reverse flatbar pushdowns* 3-4 sets
-Weighted Dips (if I hadn't done them for chest) 3-4 sets

Day 5: Legs
12-14 sets w/ calves-

-BB Squats or One-legged leg press (1/4 cycles I'll do OL leg press)- 3-4 sets
-DB Lunges- 3-4 sets
-Leg Curls- 3-4 sets
-Leg Extensions or weighted boxjumps (1/4 cycles I'll do boxjumps)- 3-4 sets
-25's unweighted calve raises or weighted calve machine- (one set of 25's) or 3 sets

I've been trying to take Saturday and Sunday off, but seem to have been taking my days off in between when I can't make it to the gym, either 3 days on, or 2 days on, and a day off.
Haven't been eating cleanly at all, but haven't gained any real weight. Right now 160 pounds and 5'8.

Looking for a sprint workout (not HIIT for cardiovascular fitness, if I wanted that I'd just jog), with cones and change of direction, etc... also explosion to increase my actual vertical horizontal speed.

Anything you'd change?

* A combo of the two for triceps, depending on the cycle


     
                  
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Re:What do you think? - Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:26 AM ( #2 )
on your day two do BOTH wide grip pull-ups and pull downs.  could try the reverse grip pulldown too if wanted.

also on day two do the deadlifts for sure, but not bi-weekly. do every week imo.

on your day three for shoulders, just me recommending, but do the bb shoulder press sitting down, military press.  just me talkin again, but standing up doing shoulder press i really dont think is good for your lower back.  heck its the same motion doing military press anyways.

on day 5 legs for sure do the squats over the one leg press.  you could do them both, i do anyways.  i came across a good article about squats and it was saying that when you do squats you are using about 6% more on left or right leg.  so its good to do a one-leg squat or one leg press too.

i hope this helped.  good look with your football!
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Re:What do you think? - Friday, November 21, 2008 5:16 AM ( #3 )
Thanks for your advice,

 I do the deadlifts byweekly because my legs are generally too sore afterwards and I like to do sprints and what not the next day and I just can't because my legs never fully recover from legday->deads. I agree with the shoulder press tip though, will have to start.  And same with the one-leg press.. I hate feeling like I use one leg over the other when I squat..

 and thanks again!
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Re:What do you think? - Friday, November 21, 2008 5:36 AM ( #4 )
hey no prob.  glad i helped =D

my ass and traps is what really is sore after i do deadlifts.  mainly my traps though because its mainly a back workout. 
it seems whenever i do legs it does take a day or two longer to recover.
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Re:What do you think? - Sunday, November 23, 2008 7:05 AM ( #5 )
why your traps if it's mainly a backworkout? I don't understand? you mean your lats? and I've never felt it hit my lats, but my lower back, yeah.
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Re:What do you think? - Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:30 AM ( #6 )
here's a good site...
http://www.protraineronline.com/past/nov15/deadlift.cfm

your traps are pretty large muscle group.  spans from your  neck, shoulders and down back.

http://backandneck.about.com/od/muscles/p/trapezius.htm

deads is one of my favorite lifts btw
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Re:What do you think? - Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:34 AM ( #7 )
oh and when doing deads dont forget to deload each rep, most people forget and use momentem to get next rep.  what i mean by deloading is treat the next rep as if it was the first by putting the weight back on the ground.  its a world a difference doing it that way....
just some advice
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Re:What do you think? - Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:23 PM ( #8 )
yeah, I always deload.. .technically people that don't aren't actually doing a dead.. because the weight isn't "dead" between every rep..

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