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Universal Products - 2/15/2005 8:44:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have been doing some research on supp's and I wonder if anyone could give me the low down on "Animal Stak" that have used it. I understand that the Ph's they use convert into both Test and Estro. They seem to have a combination of all the horomons, androgens, insulin controllers and other helpful PCT's I hear about and read about. However I haven't heard many good things about the ingrenients because of the potential side effects. Personally I am not worried about the potential side effects, I am only intrested in the potential short term results of both wieght and strength gains with an extreem workout program over a 8 week period. I plan to use ATP Creatine, Heavyweight Gainer 900, GL-3 L-Glutamine, and either Animal Stak or M1T with 6-oxo PCT. Help with my goals also.....
current - 5'11 180 / 225, 8 reps / V jump, 30 / L jump, 8'3 / 40, 4.61 /
goals - 190lbs / 225 14 reps / v jump, 36 / L jump, 9'3 / 40, 4.49

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RE: Universal Products - 2/15/2005 9:41:03 AM   
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since andros are now illegal, I'll answer this one in the shadow !
creatine and weigth gain protein are fine....
regarding M1T or animal stack I'd suggest you to skip those and start the MAX-OT program or critical bench. Train right, sleep a lot and eat like a horse...this is your best legal bet

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RE: Universal Products - 2/15/2005 11:07:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks but that didn't help at all.. I don't need to learn how to work out.. I need to know what helps create the best results outside daily routines such as eating well and getting sleep. I have 5.5% body fat, and I eat anyting I want 4-5 times a day. I sleep well every night and I currenty am getting great gains using just 50mg a day of DHEA. I play professional sports and I am looking for an edge in my off season program. Thanks anyway.

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RE: Universal Products - 2/15/2005 11:39:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		if you play profesional and NEED to go in illegal stuff to perform better....SmileSmileshame on you....
pro-hormones may not be that much dangerous...well almost not if taken right.

if you want to perform better, that starts in your head !

my 2 cents

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RE: Universal Products - 2/15/2005 2:13:26 PM   
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RE: Universal Products - 2/15/2005 2:26:16 PM   
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RE: Universal Products - 2/15/2005 2:32:05 PM   
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RE: Universal Products - 2/15/2005 2:33:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe where you live, but here in the US, pretty much everything prohormone and steroid related is illegal.

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RE: Universal Products - 11/2/2005 8:28:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		is there something not good about animal stak?

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RE: Universal Products - 11/2/2005 8:34:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		i'm on day 10 of the stak 2, and i have noticed an increase in small zits on my back, none on face or anything. So it must be doing what it is supposed to. I will need two bottles to know full effect i heard.

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RE: Universal Products - 11/2/2005 8:35:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		6 oxo will do little for anyone under 35. use the stak 2 for its got many ingredients vs 1 in 6 0x0.

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RE: Universal Products - 11/2/2005 8:38:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		animal stak 2 is legal, otherwise it wouldn't be forsale everywhere. And I am from canada and laws are tougher then they are in the usa on products like this.

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RE: Universal Products - 11/2/2005 9:00:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am on day 20 of a 21 day cycle of Stak2. I have to say I am very impressed with the results.   I look bigger, to myself, and my muscles are harder and fuller.  I am stacking Stak2 Animal Pak and Animal cuts so can’t say which product is directly reasonable for my results.  But I can say I will definitely be restarting Stak2 as soon as I take the recommended week off.

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RE: Universal Products - 11/2/2005 9:54:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		so...no recommendations for the original animal stack?  is it worthless now that there is new lines of this product??  i'm not looking to go crazy on gains or supplementation, but i do want a good solid stak that will work.

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RE: Universal Products - 11/3/2005 1:55:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		So basically, in anyone's opinion, is Animal Stack better than BSN products?  How much does this stack go for and is this more effective than the Mass Stack?  I'll have to research this.  Please let me know though!

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RE: Universal Products - 11/3/2005 6:17:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		So you guys talking about still using the now illegal ph's are still able to get these somewhere?  Does that mean that the companies are still manufacturing them.

Just curious.

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RE: Universal Products - 11/3/2005 7:00:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Animal Stak2 is LEGAL. You can buy it from any online supplier for about $25 for a 3 week cycle. I’m just guessing but maybe the Original Animal Stak is now illegal, that’s why thy produce Stak2.
 

I have never taken any of the BSN products so I cant compare them but the Universal Animal line works well for me and doesn’t put a big dent in my wallet.


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RE: Universal Products - 11/3/2005 7:35:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Animal Stak is illegal since new laws were passed some time ago. The solution was to manufacture a product less the illegal substances (and I believe the addition of athers) which resulted in Animal Stak2.

So...

Animal Stak = Illegal. You will be caught and sent to jail for 10 years for drug possession and if you're not big enough you will end up as the b*tch.

Animal Stak2 = Yummy for your tummy.

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RE: Universal Products - 11/3/2005 3:48:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		yeah, i dont think u can get your hands on animal stak itself anymore, its all been used up, and i have done searches on the internet looking for it and got nothing but animal stak 2 info.

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RE: Universal Products - 11/3/2005 5:05:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		i just got this shipping confirmation from bodybuilding.com for (2) "Universal Animal Pak, 44 Paks"   Shipped From: ID.  isn't this what we're talking about??  this is illegal??  or is it just prohibited in athletics??  there is a difference.  isn't there??

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