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Tweak to my program, Dad's suggestion, good idea?
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Sunday, March 08, 2009 8:58 PM
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Doing this at the moment: Monday-Back 1 Arm Row 3x6 Lat Pull Down 3x6 Low Row Pull Ups 3x6 Pull Ups 6-6-6 Tuesday-Chest Flat Bench 3x6 Incline Bench 3x6 Decline Bench 3x6 Fly 3x6 Wednesday-Legs Extension 3x6 Curls 3x6 Leg Press 3x6 Inner Outer Thigh 3x6 Thursday-Shoulders/Calves Reverse Lateral 3x6 Side Lateral 3x6 Seated Overhead Press 3x6 These calf machines that I don't know the name Friday-Arms Tricep Pushdown 3x6 One Arm Extension 3x6 Behind the back extension 3x6 Hammer Curl 3x6 Seated Arm Curl 3x6 Barbel Curl 3x6 Alright, I'm new to working out but this is what I've been doing for a whopping week, and I'm fine with it, takes like 45 min to do which isn't bad. It was suggested to me by a friend who is very big into working out. Now, my Father says I should do this ENTIRE work out in a day, 3-4 days a week to really see gains, instead of my one section of body per day thing I've been doing. This makes sense, but will take a few hours to do everything. I have the time to do this but I'm wondering if it's worth it? I need to make gains quickly, I'd like to gain 10 lbs in 4 months. I'm 23 years old, 5'10, and weigh 140lbs, so I'm pretty skinny. Going for gains then I'll work on getting cut, but at the moment, any muscle growth would be grand. Thanks for any advice. Pardon some exercises that might not make sense, my friend said he made up some of the names I guess. Appreciate it!
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optimumhealth
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Re:Tweak to my program, Dad's suggestion, good idea?
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Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:15 PM
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The saying "Father Knows Best" does not apply here. And here is a list of reasons that I believe to be true: 1. Muscle grows during recovery time, not workout time. 2. Unless genetical gifted or taking hormones, the muscle needs 5-6 days off to fully recover and build new cells. 3. Workouts over an hour cause a steep decrease in testosterone and an increase in cortisol, this you do not want. Here is a tip about workout order. Do your compound movement first, then isolation movements. And start with the biggest muscle group you will be training on that day. For example....a "Push Day" might look like this: X sets bench press - compound X sets flys - isolation X sets Shoulder press - compound X sets lateral raises - isolation X sets tricep pushdowns - isolation(triceps will be pretty spent already from the other compound movements) I like a Push/Pull/Legs 3 day split. It gives adequate rest times and allows you to hit it hard and get the most out of your time. If you insist on a 1 body part a day 5 day split, may I recommend this order: Shoulders, Arms and Abs, Legs, Back and Traps, Chest and Abs. It gives longer rest periods following the bigger bodyparts having the weekend after the big three, and allows you to hit the shoulders hard again on Monday.
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Re:Tweak to my program, Dad's suggestion, good idea?
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Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:51 PM
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why 6 reps?
Goal: Cut to less than 10% BF by summer.
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Avolition
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Re:Tweak to my program, Dad's suggestion, good idea?
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Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:52 PM
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Gotcha, I guess I will leave it as is then. Appreciate it!
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Re:Tweak to my program, Dad's suggestion, good idea?
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Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:53 PM
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My friend said if I'm trying to get big to use more weight and less reps.
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Re:Tweak to my program, Dad's suggestion, good idea?
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Monday, March 09, 2009 5:02 AM
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for hypertrophy the general rule of thumb is a rep range of 6-12 reps, 6 and below is more for strength
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Re:Tweak to my program, Dad's suggestion, good idea?
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Monday, March 09, 2009 6:41 AM
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S optimumhealth The saying "Father Knows Best" does not apply here. And here is a list of reasons that I believe to be true: 1. Muscle grows during recovery time, not workout time. 2. Unless genetical gifted or taking hormones, the muscle needs 5-6 days off to fully recover and build new cells. 3. Workouts over an hour cause a steep decrease in testosterone and an increase in cortisol, this you do not want. Here is a tip about workout order. Do your compound movement first, then isolation movements. And start with the biggest muscle group you will be training on that day. For example....a "Push Day" might look like this: X sets bench press - compound X sets flys - isolation X sets Shoulder press - compound X sets lateral raises - isolation X sets tricep pushdowns - isolation(triceps will be pretty spent already from the other compound movements) I like a Push/Pull/Legs 3 day split. It gives adequate rest times and allows you to hit it hard and get the most out of your time. If you insist on a 1 body part a day 5 day split, may I recommend this order: Shoulders, Arms and Abs, Legs, Back and Traps, Chest and Abs. It gives longer rest periods following the bigger bodyparts having the weekend after the big three, and allows you to hit the shoulders hard again on Monday. Sorry to hijack, do you have a good push/pull/legs routine. Looking to start a new routine next week. I like the sound of allowing more time for muscles to rest. Currently doing a 3 day that's similair, upper, lower, upper but not alternating betweeen push pull. cheers
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Re:Tweak to my program, Dad's suggestion, good idea?
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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:40 AM
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Mix it up. Choices are endless. Pull Cable Rows Lat pulldowns wide grip Lat Pulldowns Narrow grip Shrugs Hammer Curls Push Flat bench Incline bench Decline bench Shoulder press lateral raises rear lateral raise Tricep Pushdowns Legs Squats Calf raises Leg Extensions Leg Curls Do your compounds first and follow with isolation to finish the muscles off. 3-5 sets of 8 to 12 reps. Start with a lower weight 15 rep set to warm up.
<message edited by on Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:48 PM>
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