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2005/08/13 15:30:18 (permalink)
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Torn Muscle

I think I tore a muscle today doing bench. I was on my 2nd set when all of a sudden there was a ghastly crunching RIIIIIIPing noise and my arm collapsed. There wasn't a great deal of immediate pain, but I stopped the workout immediately and came home...by which time there was considerable pain. There is also a slight bit of bruising.

It's a weird muscle to hurt for that exercise, and I haven't been able to find any information about it on the 'net. The pain is at the top inside of the arm, around the bicep up towards the armpit. Ice and ibuprofen has alleviated the pain considerably.

Oddly, I was not using a whole lot of weight when this happened... 165 pounds.

I'm looking for information on how to treat this, how long to rest, how to start working it again to avoid scarification of the muscle tissue, and so on, but haven't found anything for this particular muscle.

If anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears.

John
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RE: Torn Muscle 2005/08/13 15:39:32 (permalink)
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Sometimes the weight just doesn't matter.  I've pulled my back pretty good a few times now doing things that really aren't that heavy.

Let's go with this "I have a friend" story.  It usually gets the point across.

My friend was doing leg extensions without all that much weight.  But becuase of the particular angle of the machine, it put his bicep in a stressed position.

He heard a 'POP' and felt something odd but no immediate pain either. 

However, later that day and for the next several weeks, he was unable to do much upper body exercises.  Biceps were out of the question. 

While there was no visible damage, he ripped his bicep doing leg extensions!

Huh?  Yup.

He never saw a Doctor he just let it heal.

Needless to say his bicep did recover but it was odd looking.  And it will never be the same in terms of strength.  He later confessed that he saw a Doctor about 3 months after the incident.  The Doctor told him:

Because you waited so long there's nothing I can really do.  We can operate to fix what's wrong but it would only be cosmetic.  There's not even a guarantee I could get the attachment put correctly. 


He let it be. 

In your case, you know you did something pretty severe.  And while you can do some home remedies to ease the pain, I would suggest on Monday you make an immediate appointment and get this looked at.  If indeed it is a tear and something is detached, you'd be far better off to deal with it so that it can not only look better, feel better but heal correctly.

If it doesn't, you might not bench again regardless of the weight if the muscle in fact has been damaged pretty severely and doesn't heal correctly.

My 2 cents.



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RE: Torn Muscle 2005/08/13 15:57:39 (permalink)
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I was afraid you'd say something like that....New question: do I see a doctor or just go straight to they physical therapist?
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RE: Torn Muscle 2005/08/13 18:29:22 (permalink)
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RE: Torn Muscle 2005/08/13 18:43:26 (permalink)
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Doctor. Going to PT before a Dr. is like taking your car to MAACO to have it painted when a quarter panel is missing.
 
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RE: Torn Muscle 2005/08/13 20:45:06 (permalink)
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Go to a doctor as fast as you can. The longer you wait the more severe the pain can get. I tore my hamstring a few years ago and the only way I got though the pain was because my doctor gave me some pain medication. Physical therapy is very good though. They should be able to get you back to about were you were before. I got almost all of my strength and allmost all of my flexibility back in my left leg "the one I tore my hamsting on". Don't be freaked out because of the not getting all of the flexibility back though, it just takes time and I am unusually flexible anyways. I hope that you get better though man. I know how bad it is. I couldn't sit down without extreem pain for a long while. Get better soon man.
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RE: Torn Muscle 2005/08/14 19:16:25 (permalink)
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I'll try to get an appointment tomorrow, first thing. Good news is, though, that it's feeling a great deal better today, so at least it probably isn't a complete tear. If there is any silver lining to this cloud, that's it.

J.
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RE: Torn Muscle 2005/08/14 19:18:56 (permalink)
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ORIGINAL: GTDude

Don't be freaked out because of the not getting all of the flexibility back though, it just takes time and I am unusually flexible anyways. I hope that you get better though man. I know how bad it is. I couldn't sit down without extreem pain for a long while. Get better soon man.
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Thanks. I appreciate it. I hope I get better, too!

J.
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RE: Torn Muscle 2005/12/01 22:17:07 (permalink)
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ORIGINAL: Marc David

Sometimes the weight just doesn't matter.  I've pulled my back pretty good a few times now doing things that really aren't that heavy.

Let's go with this "I have a friend" story.  It usually gets the point across.

My friend was doing leg extensions without all that much weight.  But becuase of the particular angle of the machine, it put his bicep in a stressed position.

He heard a 'POP' and felt something odd but no immediate pain either. 

However, later that day and for the next several weeks, he was unable to do much upper body exercises.  Biceps were out of the question. 

While there was no visible damage, he ripped his bicep doing leg extensions!

Huh?  Yup.

He never saw a Doctor he just let it heal.

Needless to say his bicep did recover but it was odd looking.  And it will never be the same in terms of strength.  He later confessed that he saw a Doctor about 3 months after the incident.  The Doctor told him:

Because you waited so long there's nothing I can really do.  We can operate to fix what's wrong but it would only be cosmetic.  There's not even a guarantee I could get the attachment put correctly. 


He let it be. 

In your case, you know you did something pretty severe.  And while you can do some home remedies to ease the pain, I would suggest on Monday you make an immediate appointment and get this looked at.  If indeed it is a tear and something is detached, you'd be far better off to deal with it so that it can not only look better, feel better but heal correctly.

If it doesn't, you might not bench again regardless of the weight if the muscle in fact has been damaged pretty severely and doesn't heal correctly.

My 2 cents.


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That sounds like me!  A year ago, I was benching until failure and later decided to do dips.  Big mistake.  I did not feel anything painful per se, but after that, I could no longer bench or exert my right pectoral muscle.  Well I later exerted myself continuously and had to take pectoral exercises off the list for about 4 or 5 months.  Everything had been going fine until October when I benched that day, and later went to exercise again (hitting the bag)...again, I felt little pain, but an obvious sensation and a suspicion that I tore or injured my pec again.  The next day all suspicions were put to rest when I couldn't use my muscle.  I've been trying to rest it ever since October and still feel a sensation when I flex or use my pec in certain ways.

I've read that a torn muscle will not flex and will have brusing, swelling, etc.  I don't have any of these symptoms, but what I do have makes me suspect something.  Something just isn't RIGHT, and when I would bench it would show through a large strength difference between my left and right sides (not to mention what I could do off my injury). 

What do I have?  I suspect a minor tear or maybe a strain, but I am not sure.

I don't know if I'm being clear or not, but I would REALLY appreciate any information or insight that could help me.  I've wanted to see a doctor for the longest time but for the time being, I'm stuck here. 
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RE: Torn Muscle 2005/12/02 07:16:44 (permalink)
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Thats gotta suck....
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RE: Torn Muscle 2005/12/04 17:48:13 (permalink)
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Yeah, it really does suck.  But what sucks even more is the fact that I'd like some help...

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RE: Torn Muscle 2006/02/08 07:42:24 (permalink)
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I've been reading your messages about the torn pectoral muscles.  I have a friend who was operated on yesterday for a torn pec.  He waited months before being able to schedule the surgery because of work.  I don't know how bad the tear was, but obviously it was bad enough to get operated on.  My question to all of you is, how long will his recovery time be?  Also, what can he expect to be able to do when he is recovered as far as being able to lift again?  When will he be ABLE to lift again?  Byt he way, thank you for all of the great info on this in these posts. 
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RE: Torn Muscle 2006/02/10 03:04:26 (permalink)
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it's so ironic because the first person who posted about tearing a muscle under the armpit to the chest has the same problem as me. i just decided to search the net to find any info to solve this tearing and happened to find this forum.
 
i was working out doing heavy weights and suddenly on the first rep as i lowered the weight, i realized it was hurting. me being stupid, i kept pushing and did many sets. i also kept working out after that for 2 weeks. now, i have stopped working out completely and decided to go the doctors tomorrow. i hope that i'm not too late and injured myself to a point where it becomes permanent.
 
the problem is i dont know if my situation is as bad as many of you guys. i was still able to do reps afterwards but just not as much and was still able to do my back and arms without too much pain. the only pain i have most is benching.
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RE: Torn Muscle 2006/02/10 03:07:05 (permalink)
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hi. could you please inform us wat happened when you went to the doctors. wat did he/she tell you?
 
i'd very much like to know because i have the same problem. thanks.
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RE: Torn Muscle 2006/02/10 05:04:48 (permalink)
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Ok guys, here's the story:

If something doesn't feel right, you heard a pop or a crunch and then you can't use a muscle properly, YOU NEED TO SEE A DOCTOR IMMEDIATELY!  To delay is at your own peril.  We spend so much time in the gym, watch our diets, and discuss bbing endlessly, all in the name of improving our bodies (and minds!), to not take care of it when something goes wrong (or seems to have gone wrong) is to take your hard work and FLUSH.

The worse a doctor will say is that "it's nothing serious."  Actually, that's a good thing.  You didn't waste his/her or your time.  Self-medicating is just not an option when we're talking the time and expense that we spend on our bodies here.

I've been as guilty as others in not seeking professional attention after hurting myself.  The alternatives include slower healing, and maybe not being able to be as good as before.  I've learned my lesson.

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RE: Torn Muscle 2006/02/10 06:50:47 (permalink)
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I haven't heard from my friend since he's had his surgery on Monday so I don't know how he's doing.  I'm assuming his arm has been immobilzed.  Does anyone know how long he will be out of the gym with this injury?  After surgery will he have full use of this muscle.  I know it probably won't look the same, but he's not a competitive body builder so it doesn't matter.  The only one who will notice will be him.  But what is the recovery time?  How long before he can step into the gym.  The reason I'm asking is because he thinks it's going to be a year and he's freaking out about it.  He's also a fireman and works out for his job.
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RE: Torn Muscle 2006/02/14 16:04:52 (permalink)
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i have just joind the club, on monday i i was doing my upper chest i think i lifted verry heavy, so bam i felt something snapt i weven herd it inside of me, i got up, put the weight, the feeling was weard not painfull but like a chock, i was thinkin that i brock something, i stated moving my sholders  didnt feel much, i stoped working out whent home but my brain was giving me the sgnal that something is wrong,to day is tuesday im taking it easy im tryng to not lift anything heavy, i m a little swolling between my upper chest and the end of my troath. i have an appointment on thursday.
im affraid that io wont be able to work out right again,working out made my life diferent gave me confidence and i feel like if i stay off it for a wile im gonna loos all what im working hard for fisicaly and money wise. i just hope .................................
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RE: Torn Muscle 2006/03/10 15:10:18 (permalink)
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I too am struggling with a pain in one pectoral muscle. The pain feels like a stretching feeling when contracting the muscle.  I haven't shown any symptoms of a torn muscle however something is not right and refuses to heal. i have taken months off of lifting trying to rid myself of  the problem but it never seems to get any better. I have visited a general doctor and an orthopedic specialist who both say they see nothing wrong (maybe a mild tear but probably not). i cannot bench nearly what I used to and have developed a muscle inbalance trying to carry on lifting.  If any one has information that could help me please respond.
 
 
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RE: Torn Muscle 2006/04/19 15:52:43 (permalink)
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it was only 2 weeks ago i was dumbell pressing 45 kg when i passed out for about 5 seconds due to an unberable pain . The pain was so bad i went straight to a and e ,i saw a doctor straight away and was told i had torn my pectoral muscle . The advice i was given was to rest it for 2 weeks and i would have some bruising .with in 2 days my whole arm was black and blue and my pec was and still is surounded by fluid.It is now 2 weeks since my injury and i can flex my (RATHER LARGE)pec but have very restricted movement under pressure ie pushing and lifting ( not weights) just in general.I also have pain from my bicep and tendod over my arm pit .I took it upon myself to use ice packs on every other day which i think has helpt alot and plenty of streches .hope this helps you .
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RE: Torn Muscle 2006/04/28 12:07:40 (permalink)
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Hi. I have had a problem with my pecs for the past year and a half.  I have tried physio and been to doctors but it is never the same.  Ive tried stretching and hot and cold packs but nothing seems to work as i have a pain sensation sometimes.  Even if I do lightweights I still can feel it after 2 or 3 days.  .  Also I think the best way is to train is slowly and build ur strength by increasing the weight each wk.   But if it hurts then back off for a few days. If you have a solution then pls let me know
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