The FOX says you don't know Squat! -- VIDEO

Actually.. i'm the one who doesn't know squat, but while you have the thread open, please feel free to rip apart my squat form video.
 
http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o81/basicidiottt/?action=view¤t=193.flv


Nothin special about the weight here.  170 lbs for 5 reps.    And I can already see that my first rep was NOT very good.  I look unstable or not balanced on that first one.
 
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looked pretty good man, but watch the knees crossing over your toes, the hip drive isnt bad and you are definitely getting deep enough, good job!

Yep.. I agree, not too shabby.. if you push your rear out a tad bit more, you'll be golden.. should correct the knee's over the toe's issue..  but with that said.. it looks really good..
 
Edit: Actually, if it never got any better than that, you're still golden...

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Id say your torso is a bit too vertical and it is making your knees stick too far out.  It is also a high bar squat.  Nothing wrong with that, just thought I'd let you know.  You would be better off doing a low bar squat if you are able.  Also, it is hard to tell from that angle, but make sure your knees go outward far enough so that they are in line with your toes.  

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Yep.. I agree, not too shabby.. if you push your rear out a tad bit more, you'll be golden.. should correct the knee's over the toe's issue..  but with that said.. it looks really good..

Edit: Actually, if it never got any better than that, you're still golden...

Yeah pushing the rear out would keep your torso from being so vertical.  Good call.

form looked good, but imo you should of gone for a extra couple of reps

 

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Id say your torso is a bit too vertical and it is making your knees stick too far out.  It is also a high bar squat.  Nothing wrong with that, just thought I'd let you know.  You would be better off doing a low bar squat if you are able.  Also, it is hard to tell from that angle, but make sure your knees go outward far enough so that they are in line with your toes.  

 
high bar squat?

 

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squat : 425
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thx guys.

ok.. so things i need to work on.

1.) butt out further just a bit
2.) knees a bit too far forward
3.)  maybe put the bar further back on the traps/back?  (i like the way it feels on my traps higher up for some reason)


that's 6 months of squatting so far.  not too shabby.  and i EVEN had to re-learn them 3 months ago b/c my form was crap for the first 3. (yes... i'm patting myself on the back for now).  ok.. back to the hard work


*one more thing,  what angle should the camera-man be at on squat videos??? we weren't sure.

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Looks good to me - but I'm not as picky as some of these guys.

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i want everyone to be picky.  that's why i put the video up

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Looked pretty good to me Fox. Like others have said your knees look a little too far foward, but other than that I think you doing great.

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high bar squat?

Yep.  It is ideal to have the bar in the low bar position for different reasons.  People who are unable to hold it that low due to injuries/flexibility etc can rest it higher, but only if that is their only option.  It is talked about in Starting Strength.  Compare Fox's bar postion to Rippetoe's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwXy8Dlgvzo

There's a pretty big difference.

Fox, try getting the bar into a lower position.  Use the thumbless grip and don't let your wrists break, so that the bar is COMPLETELY being supported by your back, and no weight is on your arms.  Notice how in the video Rippetoe is barely using his hands, only to keep the bar balanced?  It will feel awkward at first, and your flexibility might not allow for it in the beginning, but you'll get the hang of it.

And yeah, all this is nit-picky stuff.  All in all it was a good squat, but how much can you improve from me just saying "good squat"? 

I will add on to the hand thing.

You remember that dangerous thumbless grip you use for bench? have at it here. The top of your hands should continue a straight line with your arm. (I still need to work on this too, but I just got done reading the squat chapter in starting strength for like the 4th time again)

As far as everything else, you can try to work on setting the bar lower but I wouldnt worry too much about it.

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it was great not bad at all just scoot the bar down a bit it will feel alot more comfortable dont be afraid of scooting your hands out towords the plate you'll create a better base and feel more stable
 
 
just my 2 cents

hmm, well i agree with all above for the most part.  i got nothing really to add.  i'm just late to the party.  good work.  keep it up.

No the leg press is not the same as doing squats.

ya i knew a guy who did his knees like that with squats and 6 months later that fool cant squat anymore haha so be careful

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thanks again guys.  i'll pay more careful attention to my knees, and try to NOT let them go forward during the squat

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thanks again guys.  i'll pay more careful attention to my knees, and try to NOT let them go forward during the squat

Push your hips out more, and your knees will stay further back.  Try doing a box squat, so you know you won't fall.

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what do you mean "hips out more"??    do you mean wider stance?  or butt out further?

kinda confused me frank

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He means stick your ass out more

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what do you mean "hips out more"??    do you mean wider stance?  or butt out further?

kinda confused me frank

Push your ass out more.  Stand up right now, and sit down again.

Now stand up and when you sit down, move your hips first (pushing your ass backwards).  That's what I mean.

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what do you mean "hips out more"??    do you mean wider stance?  or butt out further?

kinda confused me frank

Push your ass out more.  Stand up right now, and sit down again.

Now stand up and when you sit down, move your hips first (pushing your ass backwards).  That's what I mean.

just did what you told me to frank.. with NO weight,  and HOLY CRAP!!... i can feel it  a LOT more in my hammies already.

and i definately noticed my knees were further back just from sticking the butt out more.  good to know

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I'd say it looks pretty good, gonna have to copy you cause lately i've been trying to squat and this is what happent.... 3 weeks in a row... 3 days a week... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0av7wVa-mXA&feature=related

gonna have to review something

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Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
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Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

were you being sarcastic bbnovice?? or or are you for real falling down when you try to squat?

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Lol ya i'm being sarcastic

Tried to find a video with a bigger accident but it seemed that every squat video that goes wrong on youtube has been seen here >_>

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

I do them just like you do.. I also don't use very much weight..  Not that it really matters. 
 
 
Anyway, Hey try incorperating dumbell lunges into your routine it should help you with your stability with the squats.  Switch it up, one week do the lunges the next do the squats.   I have been trying it now for the past couple weeks and it's helped me out alot. 
 
 
Looking good buddy. GL GJ

are you keeping your knees over your 2nd toe? (pointer finger toe) hah

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