TKD vs. CKD

I was thinking about going on TKD. I was going to do include brown rice with cheese before and after each workout but for some reason it just doesn't seem like it'd be as effective for fat loss.

Any of you guys tried it? What do you think?

ACE-CPT, NASM-CPT, AFPA-Nutrition Consultant 

I wouldn't know, but what I do know is brown rice with cheese sounds totally disgusting. =)

vdk_au


I wouldn't know, but what I do know is brown rice with cheese sounds totally disgusting. =)

don't knock it till ya try it

ACE-CPT, NASM-CPT, AFPA-Nutrition Consultant 

there are advantages to both. TKD is still really effective for fat loss because u drop back into ketosis a few hours after u eat your carbs so u may not be causing major insulin/blood glucose swings like you would during a CKD but you still are replenishing glycogen. 

as for carb intake during a TKD i would stick with around 50-75 grams of carbs both pre and post workout but make sure your taking in simple high GI carbs like dextrose rather then a lower GI carb like brown rice. Also you shouldn't eat any fat with your carbs so the rice and cheese thing would not be ideal

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Daniel265


there are advantages to both. TKD is still really effective for fat loss because u drop back into ketosis a few hours after u eat your carbs so u may not be causing major insulin/blood glucose swings like you would during a CKD but you still are replenishing glycogen. 

as for carb intake during a TKD i would stick with around 50-75 grams of carbs both pre and post workout but make sure your taking in simple high GI carbs like dextrose rather then a lower GI carb like brown rice. Also you shouldn't eat any fat with your carbs so the rice and cheese thing would not be ideal

yeah i read the part in bold last night on bodybuilding.com but completely forgot about it, thanks for reminding me.

what are some examples of high G1 carbs? those are basically simple carbs right?

ACE-CPT, NASM-CPT, AFPA-Nutrition Consultant 

glucose/dextrose, jasmine rice...these are fairly high in GI, not G1 :)

eh, sorry about that, this flu has kept me up for two days and it's hard for me to keep my concentration.

thanks

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Lmao MVP....... SPAZ.

P.S.  I was wonderin just a day or two ago where you'd run off to.  Good to see you back.

thanks bro! been sick and training clients.

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Daniel265


there are advantages to both. TKD is still really effective for fat loss because u drop back into ketosis a few hours after u eat your carbs so u may not be causing major insulin/blood glucose swings like you would during a CKD but you still are replenishing glycogen. 

as for carb intake during a TKD i would stick with around 50-75 grams of carbs both pre and post workout but make sure your taking in simple high GI carbs like dextrose rather then a lower GI carb like brown rice. Also you shouldn't eat any fat with your carbs so the rice and cheese thing would not be ideal

yeah i read the part in bold last night on bodybuilding.com but completely forgot about it, thanks for reminding me.

what are some examples of high G1 carbs? those are basically simple carbs right?

 

ya. u want something that your body is going to use right away, that is why i would recommend a dextrose or maltodextrin shake over anything

Current: 19, 5'11", 190@7%

bench:305 squat:370(atg) deadlift:475
Goals: 4plate squat, 5plate dead

"obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated"

TKD is a lot healthier, long term. You can have fruits/potassium every day PWO whereas on CKD, all that only comes on one day out of the week. Potassium defiency is huge on CKD. The supplements only give you 3% of your daily value, so thats a big problem.

Ive done both.  The tkd keeps you pumped up but when compared to the ckd for fat loss, it is almost useless.  After being on the ckd and switching to the tkd and staying in a deficit, I gained fat.  I gained strength as well though.  I think the tkd would be a better choice for someone who was trying to maintain.

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Well I'm setting at 13% right now and it's getting harder for me to cut fat. I've been doing CKD and dropped from 20% to 13% and now I want to hit around 6 or 7% at around 160.

I'll probably stick with CKD thanks guys

ACE-CPT, NASM-CPT, AFPA-Nutrition Consultant