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twistedlink

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RE: Supplement Ban 2006 - Saturday, August 06, 2005 9:11 PM
When it comes down to it, everyone will do like 8 pack said, but it on the "black market"
 
I mean lets face it, whey etc, if banned, isnt hard to make, its protein powder, its pretty simple made stuff, and can be made easily, its not as if youre buying a bloody NASA new technology star ship here, its simple stuff, and can be sold in many places pretty simply.
 
and form-the media is always babbling on about some crap, every single month a new food is "bad for you"
 
Theres gonna come a point where every food gives you cancer
 
heres a little preview-it does, everything gives cancer, cancer is when a cell doesnt divide properly, and you get oncogenes, this is due to damaged cells, EVERYTHING damages a cell pretty much.
 
It's about time some people stopped worrying about such pathetic things.
 
And like i said
 
if the government is allowing trillions of cigaretted to be bought every year-im sure they can allow simple protein powders to be sold.
 
can you even have protein powder detecting tests if they were made illegal in contests?
 
Its just protein like in food isnt it?!
 
 
 



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RE: Supplement Ban 2006 - Sunday, August 07, 2005 9:02 AM
 WE'LL SELL CIGGARETTES TO PRACTICALLY ANYONE BUT LETS SCREW THE PEOPLE TRYING TO STAY HEALTHY
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RE: Supplement Ban 2006 - Sunday, August 07, 2005 11:43 AM
if they do ban supplements, i'm going to start a riot and force Bush to watch nonstop Richard Simmons Sweatin to the 90's until he gives in
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RE: Supplement Ban 2006 - Sunday, August 07, 2005 12:01 PM
Well...Most riots are from average sized guys with banners protesting and shouting...
 
Piss off the entire bodybuilding community in a entire country as big as america...and you have yourself some big guys that can throw cars at people<---ok exxageration i know
 
 
Been watching too many hollywood films @_@ lol



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RE: Supplement Ban 2006 - Sunday, August 07, 2005 1:40 PM
NO! Not my muscle milk!  haha jk
Anyways the way i see it is I dont think they can bann pure creatine because it is all natural. I just dont see how that would work. But what i could see them banning is all this creatine mixtures with all this other stuff such as BSN cell mass or NOexplode you know such things like that. If it were me I would bann all that stuff simply because I think it is cheating its like steriods without all the side effects i mean some stuff you can take and not even work out and get bigger. I just hope they dont bann protein powder but i dont know how they would do that, but you know FDA...they are just gay sometimes.
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RE: Supplement Ban 2006 - Sunday, August 07, 2005 2:20 PM
If NO products and creatine are considered cheating... then protein powder is also cheating.

Explanation:


Protein is taken from natural sources like eggs, vegetables, and milk.  NO is produced in the human body from the natural amino acid l-arginine.  Creatine monohydrate is naturally occuring in beef and in the human body just like protein.  So when you take protein, you're simply just taking more than what you can produce naturally. Though they are more powerful and potent than protein... creatine monohydrate and NO follow the same concept.

I know lots of you guys (not directed at anyone in particular) have reservations against creatine and NO because you think that it's "cheating".  If you don't trust creatine and NO and are worried about the side effects, then don't take it.  But don't go around calling it "cheating".  I mean c'mon, this is just simple logic we're talking about here, creatine and NO are every bit as natural as just plain protein powder. (once again... not directed at anyone in particular)


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RE: Supplement Ban 2006 - Sunday, August 07, 2005 4:16 PM

ORIGINAL: twistedlink

They sell trillions of ciggarettes each year fine, but they dont like us drinking supplements putting stuff into our bodies? because it may harm us?



Yeah, I see the ridiculousness/ hipocricy with this. However, what most people probably fail to realize (though this is my opinion) is that a majority of the issues with the government are money related. Cigarettes can still be sold because of the cigarette corporation's lobbyists. This action by the government is most likely motivated by the pharmaceutical industry who isn't gettin a piece of the supplement action. My bet, is that government lobbists from the pharma. industry are trying to pull this one.

Quite frankly, though, I think this situation has a few good points.
1. Reduce the amount of bogus supplements (i.e. ThermoGain)
3. Reduce the amounts of ridiculous ad claims
2. Increase the quality of supplements
-> what you guys forget is that supplements aren't strictly regulated, as of now, so technically, a manufacturer could put almost anything in that tub you have, say it has all these quality ingredients, and charge a ridiculous price. Don't have the references off hand, but random, independent lab analysis has shown some supplements to contain: lead, broken glass and animal feces, etc. I have also seen accounts of products not containing all the protein they should have, instead filling the weight with ash and other non-muscle-building products. Having someone around to make sure companies follow good manufacturing practices will prove beneficial. Ever wonder why everyone claims great gains on Nitro-Tech, when most of the label's "ingredients" aren't anything special?

Although on the other hand, the price probably will increase, but lets hope not by much. Also, I can't see the gov't taking away proven supplements like protein powders and vitamins, since they have a proven track record and are revered by many professional strength coaches.



ORIGINAL: Justincredible

If NO products and creatine are considered cheating... then protein powder is also cheating.



I, myself, don't care what people take, its their bodies, you do what you want. Me? I stick with absolute basics because of a continuously proven track record. But lets consider this: MOST creatine/NO products contain more than just the simple forms of creatine and forms of arginine.

Remember aspartame? Its just 2 amino acids, really, yet many scientists found it to be harmful. If "supplementing," with high amounts, of 2 amino acids that form aspartame is potentially dangerous, then could supplementing with high amounts of arginine or creatine be dangerous? Of course, some people use these products (coke and supplements) responsibly and treat them as such, however with abuse, just like anything, these simple supplements can prove dangerous. This, in and of itself is probably one of many reasons the Gov't is taking action.


ORIGINAL: twistedlink

heres a little preview-it does, everything gives cancer, cancer is when a cell doesnt divide properly, and you get oncogenes, this is due to damaged cells, EVERYTHING damages a cell pretty much.



He is not kidding either. Just by living in this day and age, even if you never did/took anything even remotely risky, you can get cancer. Humans, Americans first, will most likely wipe out its own race because of a misuse of technology. With every great advancement in technology comes great responsibility, however because being responsible requires more corporate spending, that ain't happening. Human beings really are, "a disease. A cancer of this planet, a mere plague." (Matrix, haha). We, as bodybuilders, can proudly say that with proper nutrition we are ahead of the game.

Now there is some food for thought...

Jason
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RE: Supplement Ban 2006 - Sunday, August 07, 2005 4:38 PM

ORIGINAL: mrfootball69

I know all of you guys are going to think this is ridiculous, but here is my point of view.  I believe myself that the "ban" on supplements is due to the lack of control the government has on supplement companies.  I believe that the supplement companies are becoming too wealthy and therefore too powerful. 

The government, not being able to tax and control supplements as they please, will just not do for them.  The government, I believe is becoming somewhat intimidated by these growing companies, and wants to dissolve this problem immediately.

All of this concern about the consumer is a cover for the real motive behind this ban.

Consider this: The government creates laws that require the FDA and other drug companies to require prescriptions for certain supplements.  Do none of you think that these same politicians proposing these "bans" would not get a piece of this new action?  I mean, the FDA is one of the most powerful entities in the entire world.  However, that is just what i think, you all can think what you want.
actually this could be true, because have you guys ever went to a supplement store instead of buying from online? I have noticed that if the price says 49.99 then it really is 49.99 when your paying for it at the cashier, there is no tax added ever.
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RE: Supplement Ban 2006 - Sunday, August 07, 2005 11:16 PM

MOST creatine/NO products contain more than just the simple forms of creatine and forms of arginine.

That's why I specifically said creatine monohydrate and l-arginine.
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