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Summer - 5/30/2006 1:38:13 PM
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No Pain No Gain
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Okay summer is coming up and I really want to become tankish/ripped for going back to school. What should I do each day in order to get big, strong, in shape, etc... and be able to join the football team. Im asking this because it will be different than going to school and I need someone to tell me if I should wake up earlier instead of sleeping in, what I can do to reach my maximum potential of gaining muscle over 2 months, etc...
Thanks Alot.
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RE: Summer - 5/30/2006 7:46:09 PM
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Anyone?
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RE: Summer - 5/30/2006 8:35:47 PM
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u ask a similar question to that 2-4 times a week.
i'm done giving u advices,just keep the routine that your doing and keep training every muscle 3-4 times a week.
2 bad for u
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RE: Summer - 6/3/2006 8:39:56 PM
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Can anyone answer my question please?
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RE: Summer - 6/3/2006 11:31:26 PM
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me and cpl allready have anwser your question before.
u always ask almost the same question.
we allready give u a routine and tell u what to do.
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RE: Summer - 6/4/2006 12:27:54 AM
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Nicolas
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Hi,
NextBigThing -> If you have posted advice, and JustBB does not wish to follow -your- advice, that is his perogative to do so. You, along with most people offering advice, are doing so on your own experiences, not through any professional accreditation; therefore JustBB is well within his rights to opt to ask for a diverse range of answers, rather than taking -yours- as gospel. If he so chooses not to follow your advice, why are you continuing to harass him for doing so, and why are you continually making a statement: "I already told you a plan"?. As he chooses not to follow your regieme, I suggest you stop the carry on, and allow others who may have alternative suggestions, to issue them? - This will make it a much nicer, easier forum.
JustBB -> Building muscle, along with any health behaviour change, requires a level of commitment. You will need to prepare yourself adequately to make this step, before you just jump into a Gym, and work away. In the mean time, if you wish to go to the Gym and work-out, this is fine, however, I suggest investigating / researching your methods of progression prior to putting your plan(s) into action. Otherwise, it will be a short-term solution. Almost no single person is able to wake up one morning, decide to alter their behaviour, and succeed.
As a result, what you choose to start with now, you must uphold, even when you return to school, or work, or social commitments. This includes your nutritional goals, as well as your exercise goals. Making your goals 'smart' (specific, measureable, acheivable, relevant (and realistic), and time-specific) will make preparing steps to reach them, much easier.
Specfically, in a 'nut-shell', what are your goals?. You've mentioned muscle gain, however other factors that need to be addressed are:- What is your current weight/height ratio? What is your current diet regieme?, What is your current exercise regieme?.
If you can let me know this information, I will attempt to look at methods which may assist you in reaching your target.
Cheers,
Nicolas.
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RE: Summer - 6/4/2006 12:48:36 AM
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I won't even waste my time reading your long text.I've only read the first 4 lines
me and cpl give him good advices.I don't harass him,u really don't know him,he always ask the same questions,and they were like 20 people's giving him advices and regimes, NOT JUST ME.u don't know anything about the previous thread.
and I think everybody (exept u obviously) will say that cpl's always gives good advices.and even if he didn't want to follow cpl's advices,20 other people's anwser a REALLY similar question to him like 2 weeks ago.
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i'm 19
incline bench press 160lbs 100reps
incline dumbells curl 100lbs 2 reps
stiff leg deadlift 220lbs 100reps
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RE: Summer - 6/4/2006 12:51:25 AM
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I don't care if u give him advices or u give him your opinions !
but I do care if u say something about me.don't say I harrass him or in the other tread that i'm possessive.
they were like 20 people's that gave him advices and say that is workout is not good and he ask a similar question again and come with another bad workout that is almost the same every week lol.
I was talking to just BB,u wanna say your opinions,I have no problem with that.Do your thing I do my thing.Don't tell me what to do or what to say or that I harass someone and we are cool.
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stiff leg deadlift 220lbs 100reps
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RE: Summer - 6/4/2006 1:14:22 AM
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Nicolas
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Nextbigthing,
That was an incredibly immature response.
I never claimed that CPL, or your advice was incorrect. So, please, do not make assumptions on what is not actually said. What I -did- say, was that if JustBB wants to ask for other people to offer advice, then it is -his- right to do so. As a result, you really should stop responding to his posts.
Its a rather simple concept. If he isnt listening to your advice, then do not read his posts, and do not reply to him. No one is forcing you to continue trying to help him ... so learn to chill out, and focus on someone else who may be more willing?.
I suggest controlling your temper.
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RE: Summer - 6/4/2006 1:32:15 AM
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nextbigthing
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I suggest u stop talking to me,last warning.
and I wasn't the only one that gave him advices stop taling like I was the only one and i'm mad or something cuz he doesn't listen to me.
that's really not that.
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i'm 19
incline bench press 160lbs 100reps
incline dumbells curl 100lbs 2 reps
stiff leg deadlift 220lbs 100reps
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RE: Summer - 6/4/2006 1:34:25 AM
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nextbigthing
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Nicolas quote : " I suggest controlling your temper. "
I don't need your suggestions.
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stiff leg deadlift 220lbs 100reps
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RE: Summer - 6/4/2006 1:45:43 AM
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Nicolas
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NextBigThing,
If you dont 'need' my advice, that's fine. Quite comical, but JustBB may not 'need' your advice either?. It sort of, ironically, proves my point from the earlier posts.
Anyway, I'm hardly going to treat your 'warning' with any disdain. Feel free to ignore or block my posts / messages. I am not writing in response , to create argument, problems, or aggressive behaviour... I was merely trying to allow you to see JustBB is not acknowledging your advice.
No one made mention of the credibility behind your advice. So why take this as a personal attack?. The entire post I wrote, was purely to enable you to stop wasting your time with JustBB.
Anyway - I'm quite 'over' this entire discussion now.
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RE: Summer - 6/4/2006 1:52:42 AM
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nextbigthing
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well I wasn't the only one that gave him advices so your saying in don't need 20 people's advices ? so why he's asking questions ?
I just don't like people who tell me what to do or tell me I harrass people when I don't.
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stiff leg deadlift 220lbs 100reps
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RE: Summer - 6/4/2006 1:53:32 AM
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Just BB, take the extra time to get a solid amount of sleep (8 or 9 hours) but don't oversleep! Other than that train the same and try to keep your diet flawless.
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ORIGINAL: Nicolas
Nextbigthing,
That was an incredibly immature response.
I never claimed that CPL, or your advice was incorrect. So, please, do not make assumptions on what is not actually said. What I -did- say, was that if JustBB wants to ask for other people to offer advice, then it is -his- right to do so. As a result, you really should stop responding to his posts.
Nicolas, I see where your coming from on this, but honestly, does he need to post a new thread just to ask for more opinions? Can't he just keep one of his many old posts going?
All I'm trying to say is stick around for longer than 2 months (ie: CPL's 3 years) while offering well thought out advice to those who ask... Then see how many of these repetitive posts you can take from the same person wasting time that could go to someone that would better appreciate the advice.
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RE: Summer - 6/4/2006 2:02:17 AM
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Nicolas
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Gday NoQuarter,
Good point... and thanks for writing a response that was well thought-out.
I do agree that it would become frustrating; I have been in places where continually helping people, over and over and over, with literally no alteration in their behaviour - So, while I havnt experienced this forums (JustBBs) repeatativeness ... I can sympathise with the situation entirely.
I guess, I am one of these people who promote support, encouragement, and assistance regardless. Personally, I tend to think some people may not 'catch the drift' the first few times, due to some background situations (family, friends, mental health, or a range of other issues) which may affect their uptake.
But again - Thanks for writing a good response - I appreciate the fact you addressed the issue rather than the person.
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RE: Summer - 6/4/2006 11:17:16 AM
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No Pain No Gain
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Nicolas
Hi,
NextBigThing -> If you have posted advice, and JustBB does not wish to follow -your- advice, that is his perogative to do so. You, along with most people offering advice, are doing so on your own experiences, not through any professional accreditation; therefore JustBB is well within his rights to opt to ask for a diverse range of answers, rather than taking -yours- as gospel. If he so chooses not to follow your advice, why are you continuing to harass him for doing so, and why are you continually making a statement: "I already told you a plan"?. As he chooses not to follow your regieme, I suggest you stop the carry on, and allow others who may have alternative suggestions, to issue them? - This will make it a much nicer, easier forum.
JustBB -> Building muscle, along with any health behaviour change, requires a level of commitment. You will need to prepare yourself adequately to make this step, before you just jump into a Gym, and work away. In the mean time, if you wish to go to the Gym and work-out, this is fine, however, I suggest investigating / researching your methods of progression prior to putting your plan(s) into action. Otherwise, it will be a short-term solution. Almost no single person is able to wake up one morning, decide to alter their behaviour, and succeed.
As a result, what you choose to start with now, you must uphold, even when you return to school, or work, or social commitments. This includes your nutritional goals, as well as your exercise goals. Making your goals 'smart' (specific, measureable, acheivable, relevant (and realistic), and time-specific) will make preparing steps to reach them, much easier.
Specfically, in a 'nut-shell', what are your goals?. You've mentioned muscle gain, however other factors that need to be addressed are:- What is your current weight/height ratio? What is your current diet regieme?, What is your current exercise regieme?.
If you can let me know this information, I will attempt to look at methods which may assist you in reaching your target.
Cheers,
Nicolas.
Hey thanks alot Nicolas. My goals are too lose bodyfat(especially in the abdominal area and chest) and gain muscle. I am 6' and weight around 215 pounds give or take. My diet is usually around 5-6 meals":
Morning - Protein Shake(22 grams), Cereal, cereal bar, banana, cup of green tea, multivitamin, fishoil
Post Morning - Sandwich(containing turkey), banana, orange juice, sometimes a protein bar
Lunch - Protein Shake(22 grams), Sandwich, apple
Post Lunch - Big plate of pasta, bread, hamburger
Dinner - 2 Chicken Breasts, plate of fries
After Workout - Protein Shake(44 grams) and some sort of carbs
Before Bed - Cup of Noodles or some fruit, 2 glasses of milk, cup of green tea
My current excercise regime is:
Cardio - 3 times a week on monday, wednesday, friday morning for 30 mins on treadmill or outside
Monday
1.Warmup
2.Bench Press
3.Lateral Pulldowns
4.Military Press
5.Arm Curl
6.Tricep Pressdowns
7.Wrist Curls
Tuesday
1.Warmup
2.Sit ups
3.Leg Curls
4.Reverse Leg Curls
5.Quarter Squats
6.Calf Raises
I alternate and do mondays workout on wednesday, and tuesdays workout on thursday
Thanks so much to everyone for helping me and p.s. I know I need to change my excercise routine, but I am looking at a bunch of others and trying to decide whats best(what is the best for my goals?). Nicolas your right, I have to make a plan, especially for the summer as I want to go back to school "tanked up " for the football team and I guess I have to make a plan because I will get lazy over the summer if I don't and I can't afford that. Also with a guy my age and at 215 pounds is there a better chance I could get diabetes?
To nextbigthing, you have been a great help thankyou, I have nothing against you.
Sorry to anyone if I have been a nuisance.
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RE: Summer - 6/4/2006 1:02:06 PM
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nextbigthing
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ok just BB,it's cool
if u want my opinion,I don't think your new routine is very good,but it's definitly better than the one u were doing before.
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RE: Summer - 6/4/2006 1:58:17 PM
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Dude if you weigh 215, your eating to much there... Do you have a muscular build? How fast are you? You need more cardio to cut the fat. Focus on legs! You wanna play football, thats what they really focus on is squats and deadlifts. What position do you want to play?
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