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Strength to Bodyweight - Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:28 PM ( #1 )
Hello all, this is my first post, I just turned 18 and I weigh 180 LBs about 14% body fat. I used to be really overweight (260 lbs) and lost it and have built a good amount of muscle, but my strength I find not to be all that impressive. When I first started working out I never squatted or deadlifted which I regret, so they aren't as high as they should be but I want to focus on building real strength.
1 RM
Bench - 225 LBs
Squat - 245 LBs
Deadlift 245 LBs

I'm currently doing a full body workout alternating between 2 different workouts.

A                                                                                   
Barbell Squat 12,10,8,6,4 (135,145,155,165,175)
Inc DB Bench Press 12,10,8,6 (35,40,45,50)
Inc Bent Over Row 12,10,8,6 (45,50,55,60)
Shoulder Press 12,10,8 (30,35,40)

B
Barbell Deadlift 12,10,8,6,4 (135,145,155,165,175)
Barbell Bench Press 12,10,8,6 (135,145,155,165)
Dumbell Bent Over Row 12,10,8,6 (50,55,60,65)
Barbell Military Press 12,10,8 (95,105,115)

I rest for 30 seconds between sets and no rest between exercises.
Can anyone suggest a good strength routine? My goals atm are to get my bench to 1.5x my bodyweight and my Squat and Deadlift to 2x.
1.5=315
2.0=360

Thanks
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Re:Strength to Bodyweight - Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:02 PM ( #2 )
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Re:Strength to Bodyweight - Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:13 PM ( #3 )
First off your math is off, 1.5x your body weight is 270.  Your goals are definitely attainable. Your routine isn't a strength routine by any means.  I am guessing you could benefit from the routine called starting strength by mark rippeltoe, can't spell his last name.  Or some other 5x5 or lower rep strength building routine.  You'll end up doing far less repetitions and you will start resting a lot more between sets to be able to put up the heavier weight.  You could also check out westside for skinny bastards, but it is a bit more advanced.
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Re:Strength to Bodyweight - Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:56 AM ( #4 )
if strength is your goal then 5x5 is a good place to start, try adding in some singles every now and again to mix things up.

following this kind of program should help improve your strength espeicially if you havent been doing squats or deads for that long, i would even suggest your target in these to lifts should be 2.5xBW.
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Re:Strength to Bodyweight - Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:32 AM ( #5 )
Thanks for the responses :)
I have done 5x5 in the past, not for very long consistantly, but I will start again. I figured that if I put higher intensity on my muscles with my current routine my strength would go up regardless of how I do it, also this is just a short term goal of 2.0x bodyweight, my ultimate goal is to get Squat/Deadlift over 800 lbs, and I'm sure I can get there.

One thing I noticed is most people say to increase weight by 5 pounds per week but when I was on my 5x5 I was able to increase the weight by atleast 10 pounds, should I just keep it at 5 up a week that way I guarantee a full 5x5?
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Re:Strength to Bodyweight - Friday, September 18, 2009 6:37 AM ( #6 )
i have found that the big compound lifts like deads and squats can easily take 5-10kg a week where as bench and row a little less 2.5 kg/wk.

but listen to your body if your hitting heavy weights and you need a plateau week before hitting heavier weights the following week, that can be just as effective.
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Re:Strength to Bodyweight - Friday, September 18, 2009 8:43 AM ( #7 )
Thanks, I did notice the biggest gains in my Squats/Deadlifts, being 20 pounds in one week, but Bench Press and Bent Over Row shoot up almost as fast, obviously not 20 pounds per week but I'm progressing up the Dumbbells quickly.

Also, I'm trying to even out my lats with my chest, obviously what is easy for some isn't for others but should I be able to Bent Over Row more then I can Bench? I use dumbells ALWAYS for Bent Over Row because when I use Barbell I can't feel the burn in the right areas, dumbbells set my back on fire.
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Re:Strength to Bodyweight - Friday, September 18, 2009 8:53 AM ( #8 )
sounds good your aim should be to have even chest and back lifts, but i have found the majority of people have stronger back than chest, with rows in particular.

with barbell rows make sure your torso is parallel to the ground or if you still dont feel it working maybe change your grip on the bar as this can sometimes help.
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Re:Strength to Bodyweight - Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:14 AM ( #9 )
Did my first workout with Starting Strength
Squat 3x5 185
Press 3x5 115
Chinups 3xF 5
Did 4 seconds down 1 second up
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Re:Strength to Bodyweight - Saturday, September 19, 2009 9:19 PM ( #10 )
Great choice on the routine, You will be glad you went with it. Id recommend you buy the book if you havent already.

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Did my first workout with Starting Strength
Squat 3x5 185
Press 3x5 115
Chinups 3xF 5
Did 4 seconds down 1 second up



6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"








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Re:Strength to Bodyweight - Sunday, September 20, 2009 1:35 PM ( #11 )
I haven't but I definitely plan on doing so asap :)
I'm not feeling soar in ANY areas from that workout, not even remotely, a little stiff but my daily wakeup routine (push ups, pull ups, chinups and triangle push ups) to get the blood flowing cleared that up, is that normal?
And on Wednesdays why do I only do one set of Deadlift? While I am just starting strength training I've had a lot of previous experience with routines.
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Re:Strength to Bodyweight - Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:40 PM ( #12 )
seems fine.

Those deadlifts are ramping sets, meaning your supposed to work your way up to the 1x5 with 4x5 pyramiding sets. for example.

if my 1x5 deadlift is 225x1x5

then I would warm up, then

1x5x155
1x5x175
1x5x195
1x5x215

then finally do your 1x5x225.

it doesnt have to be like that, you can vary the weight more or less if you want, but I think you get the point, just up the weight each set till you get to your working set.
6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"








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Re:Strength to Bodyweight - Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:43 PM ( #13 )
Ahhh lmao, works fine because that's how I was planning on doing them anyway. I'm going to be taking creatine monohydrate and whey iso obv and going at it hard going every other day and increase weight steadily by atleast 5 pounds per workout, that's the goal, anyway.

So far on my theories of what I can do I have been pretty accurate.

Also, thanks for everyone who posted, I really appreciate it =)

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