Straps; cheating or not ?

I use straps most of the time whenever im hang or power cleaning to get a better grip on the bar, why do some people consider this cheating? 

Age-15; Height-5"11; Weight-185lb
NEW MAXES
Hang Clean- 235 lbs (8/11)
Bench Press- 205 lbs (8/8)

 Straps are cool, as long as they match your purse.

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ORIGINAL: Yet

 Straps are cool, as long as they match your purse.

really again lol?

Straps arent cheating although some will argue you shouldnt be using any weight you can't hold...

I just use them to maintain a better grip

Age-15; Height-5"11; Weight-185lb
NEW MAXES
Hang Clean- 235 lbs (8/11)
Bench Press- 205 lbs (8/8)

for what kinds of weight?

mainly to do any type of cleans, and dead lifts

Age-15; Height-5"11; Weight-185lb
NEW MAXES
Hang Clean- 235 lbs (8/11)
Bench Press- 205 lbs (8/8)

for your size (going by lifts in your sig) you shouldnt use straps, until you are in the 400+ range i wouldnt create a habit that will be detrimental to forearm development

okay, thanks i was jw because almost 100% of the people in my weightroom use them 

Age-15; Height-5"11; Weight-185lb
NEW MAXES
Hang Clean- 235 lbs (8/11)
Bench Press- 205 lbs (8/8)

ORIGINAL: thsfootball1

okay, thanks i was jw because almost 100% of the people in my weightroom use them 

i would say 99% of them dont know whats going on

haha true thanks for the help man 

Age-15; Height-5"11; Weight-185lb
NEW MAXES
Hang Clean- 235 lbs (8/11)
Bench Press- 205 lbs (8/8)

Well straps are cheating but they can be used to help ur training. If ur grip strength sucks and u are just trying to hit ur legs and lower back on deads then I would say u should use them. But if u want to increase ur grip strength at the same time then u shouldn't use them. They're cheating simply because they allow u to lift more then u can!!

[id=tmppasteie1218149165564]Current: 18, 5'11", 194

bench:290 squat:405 deadlift:420

Use straps only in the sets where your forearms strengh becomes a limiting factor

Squat max - 245lbs
Bench max - 188lbs
Deadlift max - ¿?
Front Squats(atg)- 5x165lbs

ORIGINAL: Gottabefit

Use straps only in the sets where your forearms strengh becomes a limiting factor

correct on like the last set of cleans but i wouldnt recommend doing it on dead lifts i would try to regrip after each rep thats what i do

ORIGINAL: egsbike

ORIGINAL: Gottabefit

Use straps only in the sets where your forearms strengh becomes a limiting factor

correct on like the last set of cleans but i wouldnt recommend doing it on dead lifts i would try to regrip after each rep thats what i do

I don't understand why or even how you would use straps on cleans.

Your don't even grip the bar really, your forearms are not supposed to be engaged, ohh maybe that is why so you are, so you don't? Learn about hook grip if you are not familiar.

I don't strap. Heaviest sets of deads, woud be appropriate, other than that... Meh.

if something is helping you maintain / hold weight that you cannot do naturally, then it's cheating...
 
Is using an assistance machine for pullups cheating?  If you can do 15 pullups using an assistance machine set on 5 that doesn't mean you can do them with your body weight.. so depending on the perspective... Anything that assists with a lift, is in reality... Cheating..
 
So if someone tells me they can dead 400lbs using straps.. that means absolutely nothing... how much can you dead minus the straps.. that's the number that counts..
 
The grip is part of the lift..
 
My grip is not what it should be and I actually consider it horrible.. however, if i rely on straps to support the weight, it allows the supporting muscles that would normally be used to not work as hard... so what's the point?  
 
I've seen numerous people end up with back issues that stayed with them indefinitely due to strapping too much weight on a bar and trying to lift it....   I know it sounds cliché' but, if you can't hold the weight on your own without assistance... you probably shouldn't be holding it with assistance..
 
If it's due to slipping and not strength issues.. Chalk up..

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